(10-04-2021 09:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote: Below are the top listed budgets but they are almost meaningless because there's no uniform way of listing them. Plus a lot of those dollars are going to higher scholarship cost. If one school has a budget of 40m and another 35m and the 40m is spending 6m extra on scholarship cost. Which has the healthier budget?
ODU 46M
UNCC 40M
UNT 40M
FIU 37M
UAB 36K
FAU 36M
Middle 35m
UTSA 33M
Poop might know nothing but numbers don't lie. A lack of facilities and budget leaves UTSA looking weak compared to other candidates. UAB, Charlotte, and ODU are the best on paper. If North Texas wasn't next door to SMU they would be a bigger contender.
Talking about facilities and then fail to mention your measly 15k seat football stadium that you can't even fill up? GTFO Here!
Hoes be mad. I guess if my school has been out here playing since 1895 and were losing to startups with no juice in conference realignment talk...I would be mad too.
(10-04-2021 09:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote: Below are the top listed budgets but they are almost meaningless because there's no uniform way of listing them. Plus a lot of those dollars are going to higher scholarship cost. If one school has a budget of 40m and another 35m and the 40m is spending 6m extra on scholarship cost. Which has the healthier budget?
ODU 46M
UNCC 40M
UNT 40M
FIU 37M
UAB 36K
FAU 36M
Middle 35m
UTSA 33M
FAU would just ask around Boca for the four million we need and we would, most likely get it. I do not know if we can come to that well every year but it is doable, we're close enough.
(10-03-2021 11:13 PM)All4One Wrote: Yeah, I don't click on direct links to the Slum Belch forum because almost anything related to CUSA schools is just garbage. There's not a soul over there that knows squat about what is happening with this conference.
That's probably the first time I've gone to their board. Only cuz I was on the trail to find the source. I thought AAC fans were delusional, boy was I in for a surprise.
I love the comments about "We are not kicking out ULM or Texas State" blah, blah, blah as if the Slum Belch cared about their members. See New Mexico State and Idaho for an example of the Slum Belch's brand of compassion. There isn't a member outside of struggling ULM that doesn't have a knife ready to stab their conference mates in the back when it comes to conference realignment.
ULM and Texas State are equity members of the Sun Belt whereas New Mexico State and Idaho were only in the conference under a contract whose terms were fulfilled.
Son, son. Don’t bother trying to win an argument with old A41 by stating facts. His irrational hatred of all things SBC won’t allow it. I guess that what he means when he says he has no alliance lol.
And yet here you Belch fans are posting to a non-Belch forum. I don't really care if it's a contract or not. They had no where to go, and Benson knew that. The guy tried to kill the conference in 2003, which would've eventually sent your equity member, Louisiana-Monroe, back to 1-AA. Then he devises a contract that he knew would hurt Idaho and New Mexico State after he failed as WAC commissioner.
(10-03-2021 11:20 PM)JCMiner Wrote: That's probably the first time I've gone to their board. Only cuz I was on the trail to find the source. I thought AAC fans were delusional, boy was I in for a surprise.
I love the comments about "We are not kicking out ULM or Texas State" blah, blah, blah as if the Slum Belch cared about their members. See New Mexico State and Idaho for an example of the Slum Belch's brand of compassion. There isn't a member outside of struggling ULM that doesn't have a knife ready to stab their conference mates in the back when it comes to conference realignment.
ULM and Texas State are equity members of the Sun Belt whereas New Mexico State and Idaho were only in the conference under a contract whose terms were fulfilled.
Son, son. Don’t bother trying to win an argument with old A41 by stating facts. His irrational hatred of all things SBC won’t allow it. I guess that what he means when he says he has no alliance lol.
And yet here you Belch fans are posting to a non-Belch forum. I don't really care if it's a contract or not. They had no where to go, and Benson knew that. The guy tried to kill the conference in 2003, which would've eventually sent your equity member, Louisiana-Monroe, back to 1-AA. Then he devises a contract that he knew would hurt Idaho and New Mexico State after he failed as WAC commissioner.
I felt bad for NMSU when that happened. If I remember correctly, wasn't Benson the one that convinced NMSU to leave the SB for the WAC? Talk about stabbing someone in the back.
(10-04-2021 09:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote: Below are the top listed budgets but they are almost meaningless because there's no uniform way of listing them. Plus a lot of those dollars are going to higher scholarship cost. If one school has a budget of 40m and another 35m and the 40m is spending 6m extra on scholarship cost. Which has the healthier budget?
ODU 46M
UNCC 40M
UNT 40M
FIU 37M
UAB 36K
FAU 36M
Middle 35m
UTSA 33M
Poop might know nothing but numbers don't lie. A lack of facilities and budget leaves UTSA looking weak compared to other candidates. UAB, Charlotte, and ODU are the best on paper. If North Texas wasn't next door to SMU they would be a bigger contender.
Talking about facilities and then fail to mention your measly 15k seat football stadium that you can't even fill up? GTFO Here!
Hoes be mad. I guess if my school has been out here playing since 1895 and were losing to startups with no juice in conference realignment talk...I would be mad too.
(10-03-2021 11:28 PM)All4One Wrote: I love the comments about "We are not kicking out ULM or Texas State" blah, blah, blah as if the Slum Belch cared about their members. See New Mexico State and Idaho for an example of the Slum Belch's brand of compassion. There isn't a member outside of struggling ULM that doesn't have a knife ready to stab their conference mates in the back when it comes to conference realignment.
ULM and Texas State are equity members of the Sun Belt whereas New Mexico State and Idaho were only in the conference under a contract whose terms were fulfilled.
Son, son. Don’t bother trying to win an argument with old A41 by stating facts. His irrational hatred of all things SBC won’t allow it. I guess that what he means when he says he has no alliance lol.
And yet here you Belch fans are posting to a non-Belch forum. I don't really care if it's a contract or not. They had no where to go, and Benson knew that. The guy tried to kill the conference in 2003, which would've eventually sent your equity member, Louisiana-Monroe, back to 1-AA. Then he devises a contract that he knew would hurt Idaho and New Mexico State after he failed as WAC commissioner.
I felt bad for NMSU when that happened. If I remember correctly, wasn't Benson the one that convinced NMSU to leave the SB for the WAC? Talk about stabbing someone in the back.
Yes, Benson got both Idaho and New Mexico State to give up their equity membership in the Sun Belt for a more geographically-friendly WAC. Yes, Benson tried to kill the Sun Belt when he invited Utah State and then tried to finish the league off by bringing in Louisiana-Lafayette and North Texas. That's why Middle Tennessee nearly went to the MAC around that same time. Arkansas State, Louisiana-Monroe, and Florida International would've been f-ed--ULM more than the other two. FAU would've stayed FCS. South Alabama would've been FCS if they moved forward with starting football. Troy would've likely not moved up in 2003 because they only got invited to the Sun Belt to replace Utah State.
Yes, Benson was a back-stabbing piece of garbage, and yet alot of Belt fans, including those in Jonesboro and Monroe (mostly those that didn't know or even care what Benson tried to do to their schools then) considered him to be the lord and savior of their conference.
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2021 01:36 PM by All4One.)
(10-04-2021 09:57 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Rumor is that Tech has a path to the 40 million dollar budget but it is going to mean passing the dreaded student athletic fee. Who knows if there is any truth to it.
When will the vote for the student fee happen? ULM is in the process of doing the same thing.
Spring maybe, but that's an educated guess. Already hearing the wheels turning on this now.
(10-04-2021 09:57 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Rumor is that Tech has a path to the 40 million dollar budget but it is going to mean passing the dreaded student athletic fee. Who knows if there is any truth to it.
When will the vote for the student fee happen? ULM is in the process of doing the same thing.
Spring maybe, but that's an educated guess. Already hearing the wheels turning on this now.
Maybe we should ask SuperTweeter "poop" what he's heard about it?
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote: Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....
Also their baseball stadium.
UT-Austin keeps their thumb on their system schools. They definitely don't want UTSA or UTEP to get too big (same for Texas State, but that's because they're too close. State is a separate system, but their BOR is beholden to UT).
Utsa has the worst collegiate baseball facilities that I’ve ever seen in my life. That’s not hyperbole. I have seen better inner city high school ball fields. They really should replace their current eye sore.
(10-04-2021 12:18 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote: 75k alumni live within an hour and a half drive of our stadium.
This is a pretty surprising number and percentage of total alumni. That area would only include Greensboro/Hickory to Greenville/Columbia SC. How many live in the Charlotte metro area?
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote: Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....
Also their baseball stadium.
UT-Austin keeps their thumb on their system schools. They definitely don't want UTSA or UTEP to get too big (same for Texas State, but that's because they're too close. State is a separate system, but their BOR is beholden to UT).
Utsa has the worst collegiate baseball facilities that I’ve ever seen in my life. That’s not hyperbole. I have seen better inner city high school ball fields. They really should replace their current eye sore.
(10-04-2021 12:18 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote: 75k alumni live within an hour and a half drive of our stadium.
This is a pretty surprising number and percentage of total alumni. That area would only include Greensboro/Hickory to Greenville/Columbia SC. How many live in the Charlotte metro area?
I don't have that figure but I would imagine it's a large majority of that 75k figure. We have the largest alumni base in the Charlotte region (for obvious reasons).
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote: Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....
Also their baseball stadium.
UT-Austin keeps their thumb on their system schools. They definitely don't want UTSA or UTEP to get too big (same for Texas State, but that's because they're too close. State is a separate system, but their BOR is beholden to UT).
Utsa has the worst collegiate baseball facilities that I’ve ever seen in my life. That’s not hyperbole. I have seen better inner city high school ball fields. They really should replace their current eye sore.
Four things...
1) I don't buy your bit about inner city high school ball fields one bit.
2) On the picture of our field above, the stands on the right side are completely cut off and are bigger than the left side. Still not much to look at, but if you're gonna take a pic, at least show everything and not cut a large portion off and claim it's all we have.
3) Our own fans have complained about our basketball and baseball facilities for years now. Starting our football program from scratch in 2011 and going FBS in just year 2 (2012) diverted all our money away from improving those and into football.
4) The picture below is the Air Force Academy's baseball stadium, so we're not the only ones, though I feel service academies do get, and rightly so, a bigger cushion for lack of facilities than regular universities because they have a completely different mission than the rest of us.
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2021 05:01 PM by Volkmar.)
(10-04-2021 12:18 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote: 75k alumni live within an hour and a half drive of our stadium.
This is a pretty surprising number and percentage of total alumni. That area would only include Greensboro/Hickory to Greenville/Columbia SC. How many live in the Charlotte metro area?
I don't have that figure but I would imagine it's a large majority of that 75k figure. We have the largest alumni base in the Charlotte region (for obvious reasons).
To be fair, LSU-Shreveport has the largest alumni base in the Shreveport-Bossier metro area. That is a symptom of being a commuter school and has no bearing on who actually goes to the games or watches them on tv. I'm not trying to flame your school just putting this detail in perspective.
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote: Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....
Also their baseball stadium.
UT-Austin keeps their thumb on their system schools. They definitely don't want UTSA or UTEP to get too big (same for Texas State, but that's because they're too close. State is a separate system, but their BOR is beholden to UT).
Utsa has the worst collegiate baseball facilities that I’ve ever seen in my life. That’s not hyperbole. I have seen better inner city high school ball fields. They really should replace their current eye sore.
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