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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-03-2021 10:44 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 10:35 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  IF the AAC is that restrictive on annual budget levels they are going to have a somewhat harder time finding candidates.
I was thinking the same, I wonder what they require/expect? Also paying that amount of money into a conference that could be further raided is risky. But I imagine UTSA fans are not gonna be happy at all.

This is a good point. Remaining in AAC, per Massey:

25 SMU
72 Memphis
79 East Carolina
98 Temple
103 Tulsa
105 Tulane
108 South Florida
114 Navy

The AAC strength can take a big hit with more departures.
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 09:30 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 09:30 AM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 09:23 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  If poop says it’s true then it’s true. Trust me on this one guys.

Haha!

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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....

Also their baseball stadium.
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 10:15 AM)LRdawg Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....

Also their baseball stadium.
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UT-Austin keeps their thumb on their system schools. They definitely don't want UTSA or UTEP to get too big (same for Texas State, but that's because they're too close. State is a separate system, but their BOR is beholden to UT).
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 10:15 AM)LRdawg Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....

Also their baseball stadium.
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our facilities are like that because we played in the Southland for so many years and didnt need to upgrade them. Football brought these facilities to light. We do have plans for a new basketball and baseball facility, but how many years down the road that is, only the AD and President know. And this has nothing to do with UT-Austin.
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 09:57 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Rumor is that Tech has a path to the 40 million dollar budget but it is going to mean passing the dreaded student athletic fee. Who knows if there is any truth to it.

When will the vote for the student fee happen? ULM is in the process of doing the same thing.
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 10:40 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 09:57 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Rumor is that Tech has a path to the 40 million dollar budget but it is going to mean passing the dreaded student athletic fee. Who knows if there is any truth to it.

When will the vote for the student fee happen? ULM is in the process of doing the same thing.

Would it be a rumor (that Pilot says may or may not even be true), if he knew the date the vote would happen? 03-bored
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 09:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Below are the top listed budgets but they are almost meaningless because there's no uniform way of listing them. Plus a lot of those dollars are going to higher scholarship cost. If one school has a budget of 40m and another 35m and the 40m is spending 6m extra on scholarship cost. Which has the healthier budget?

ODU 46M

UNCC 40M

UNT 40M

FIU 37M

UAB 36K

FAU 36M

Middle 35m

UTSA 33M

Poop might know nothing but numbers don't lie. A lack of facilities and budget leaves UTSA looking weak compared to other candidates. UAB, Charlotte, and ODU are the best on paper. If North Texas wasn't next door to SMU they would be a bigger contender.
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 10:46 AM)chuckk3 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:40 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 09:57 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Rumor is that Tech has a path to the 40 million dollar budget but it is going to mean passing the dreaded student athletic fee. Who knows if there is any truth to it.

When will the vote for the student fee happen? ULM is in the process of doing the same thing.

Would it be a rumor (that Pilot says may or may not even be true), if he knew the date the vote would happen? 03-bored

I’m just curious, since an athletic fee for athletics would greatly benefit every non-LSU program.
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
Is it the AAC's financial instability or because UTSA doesn’t meet the AAC's financial criteria? This all sounds bogus.
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 10:32 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:15 AM)LRdawg Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....

Also their baseball stadium.
[Image: Roadrunner-Field-900x600.jpg]

our facilities are like that because we played in the Southland for so many years and didnt need to upgrade them. Football brought these facilities to light. We do have plans for a new basketball and baseball facility, but how many years down the road that is, only the AD and President know. And this has nothing to do with UT-Austin.

clt asks about your tennis facilities
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....

Same here. I can't see it. And don't tell me UTSA said, "Oh, we'll commit to build one". LOL! That's the kind of promise UNT made about starting baseball to get admitted into CUSA.
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UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 09:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Below are the top listed budgets but they are almost meaningless because there's no uniform way of listing them. Plus a lot of those dollars are going to higher scholarship cost. If one school has a budget of 40m and another 35m and the 40m is spending 6m extra on scholarship cost. Which has the healthier budget?

ODU 46M

UNCC 40M

UNT 40M

FIU 37M

UAB 36K

FAU 36M

Middle 35m

UTSA 33M


If Rice were still in CUSA it would be #1 or #2 on that list

Speaking of #2

Yes a lot of that at Rice is scholarship sticker price but that scholarship does have a value.
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(10-04-2021 09:02 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 11:20 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 11:13 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 11:04 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 10:59 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  This person's twitter handle is "poop" and has 0 followers.....seems legit to me.

Exact thought I had. To be fair there's another tweet. Doesn't seem very credible either.

https://twitter.com/mburtappstate/status...97764?s=19

I did a bit more digging and it looks like the rumor started in SB board. Go figure. UTSA turns down AAC and MW to join SB.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-930865-page-3.html

Yeah, I don't click on direct links to the Slum Belch forum because almost anything related to CUSA schools is just garbage. There's not a soul over there that knows squat about what is happening with this conference.

That's probably the first time I've gone to their board. Only cuz I was on the trail to find the source. I thought AAC fans were delusional, boy was I in for a surprise.

We have delusion to spare over there, and sometimes Im at the head of it. But I don’t think I’ve seen anybody say that UTSA would turn down the aac for the sbc, although I could have missed it. Only, if they were available for whatever reason, we’d like to make them a target for a number of reasons.

Just goes to show you what one (1) decent football season can do for a school's reputation. Before last year's 7-5 finish, and bowl game loss to ULALA, UTSA wasn't considered "desirable" by others at all.
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(10-04-2021 09:23 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  If poop says it’s true then it’s true. Trust me on this one guys.

Poop is well "connected"....
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(10-04-2021 09:47 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 09:10 AM)GEAGLESJAG Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 11:28 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 11:20 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 11:13 PM)All4One Wrote:  Yeah, I don't click on direct links to the Slum Belch forum because almost anything related to CUSA schools is just garbage. There's not a soul over there that knows squat about what is happening with this conference.

That's probably the first time I've gone to their board. Only cuz I was on the trail to find the source. I thought AAC fans were delusional, boy was I in for a surprise.

I love the comments about "We are not kicking out ULM or Texas State" blah, blah, blah as if the Slum Belch cared about their members. See New Mexico State and Idaho for an example of the Slum Belch's brand of compassion. There isn't a member outside of struggling ULM that doesn't have a knife ready to stab their conference mates in the back when it comes to conference realignment.

ULM and Texas State are equity members of the Sun Belt whereas New Mexico State and Idaho were only in the conference under a contract whose terms were fulfilled.
Son, son. Don’t bother trying to win an argument with old A41 by stating facts. His irrational hatred of all things SBC won’t allow it. I guess that what he means when he says he has no alliance lol.

There you go being paranoid and insecure again.
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 10:15 AM)LRdawg Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....

Also their baseball stadium.
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Looks better than UNT's.......03-lmfao
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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 11:54 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 09:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Below are the top listed budgets but they are almost meaningless because there's no uniform way of listing them. Plus a lot of those dollars are going to higher scholarship cost. If one school has a budget of 40m and another 35m and the 40m is spending 6m extra on scholarship cost. Which has the healthier budget?

ODU 46M

UNCC 40M

UNT 40M

FIU 37M

UAB 36K

FAU 36M

Middle 35m

UTSA 33M


If Rice were still in CUSA it would be #1 or #2 on that list

Speaking of #2

Yes a lot of that at Rice is scholarship sticker price but that scholarship does have a value.

Rice is private so they dont report their budget and the value of a scholarship is to the student. But it plays no part to making your programs more completive vs a school where it cost less to attend

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RE: UTSA turn down AAC?
(10-04-2021 10:58 AM)49ShadesOfGreen Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 09:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Below are the top listed budgets but they are almost meaningless because there's no uniform way of listing them. Plus a lot of those dollars are going to higher scholarship cost. If one school has a budget of 40m and another 35m and the 40m is spending 6m extra on scholarship cost. Which has the healthier budget?

ODU 46M

UNCC 40M

UNT 40M

FIU 37M

UAB 36K

FAU 36M

Middle 35m

UTSA 33M

Poop might know nothing but numbers don't lie. A lack of facilities and budget leaves UTSA looking weak compared to other candidates. UAB, Charlotte, and ODU are the best on paper. If North Texas wasn't next door to SMU they would be a bigger contender.

Talking about facilities and then fail to mention your measly 15k seat football stadium that you can't even fill up? GTFO Here!
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(10-04-2021 12:09 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:58 AM)49ShadesOfGreen Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 09:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Below are the top listed budgets but they are almost meaningless because there's no uniform way of listing them. Plus a lot of those dollars are going to higher scholarship cost. If one school has a budget of 40m and another 35m and the 40m is spending 6m extra on scholarship cost. Which has the healthier budget?

ODU 46M

UNCC 40M

UNT 40M

FIU 37M

UAB 36K

FAU 36M

Middle 35m

UTSA 33M

Poop might know nothing but numbers don't lie. A lack of facilities and budget leaves UTSA looking weak compared to other candidates. UAB, Charlotte, and ODU are the best on paper. If North Texas wasn't next door to SMU they would be a bigger contender.

Talking about facilities and then fail to mention your measly 15k seat football stadium that you can't even fill up? GTFO Here!

Yeah, but we have more people we can fill it with, with the right opponents coming in. 167k living alumni. 5000 more each year. 75k alumni live within an hour and a half drive of our stadium.

And we already have the money for both phases of our stadium expansion as well as upgrades across the board to existing facilities that match AAC standards already.

We haven't begun to hit our maximum potential. Not sure some of this conference's "established" programs can say the same.

I'd love for Marshall to move up to the AAC alongside Charlotte, since we're already your in-conference rivals now.
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