(05-20-2021 10:39 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 03:12 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 02:37 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I think it’s silly to speculate either way about Silverfield at this point.

100% agree...

But you have some who are actively rooting against him...Over stickers.

I’m not a fan of the stickers , but to hate a coach over it is about as dumb as it gets.

In all my years on this earth, hate (and reasonings behind it) more closely align with emotions than empirical data...even years out

(05-20-2021 01:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 05:06 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:33 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  I was a bit miffed at first when I read the article. I thought Silverfield got as much out of last year's team as anyone possibly could.
There just isn't enough data on him yet to rank him any higher just yet. That is a fair assessment. I do think he should be ranked a spot higher though.

That's fine on the surface. Where it breaks down is when you start comparing coaches.

Is it better to be career 8-3 (RS), or 31-40 (Montgomery)?
Is it better to be 5-3 (RS) in the AAC, or be 7-13 (Holgorsen)?

More games does not by definition make one coach better than another. You want Tubby Smith or Penny Hardaway?

How this season pans out will be the starting point of how we should rate Silverfield. Last season, we had a very experienced QB, WR corps...even though 1 ultimately decided to sit out. Despite the O line being up to snuff, we still had a really decent season and went 9-3.
This season...I am very optimistic. Our O line is as strong as I have ever seen at Memphis, period. Right now, it has to be considered the strength of the team. We'll be breaking in a new QB, and a newish set of RBs...WR corps. We should have a winning season...despite it being a 'rebuilding' year for us.
Our QB will get a chance to acclimate, as we look to run the ball more. If our WRs pitch in, I see no reason we shouldn't have at LEAST 9 wins. That should move Silverfield up the list quite a bit.

Quote:Last season, we had a very experienced QB, WR corps.

It is almost impossible that you aren't trolling. You aren't making any sense. We lost our top 5 receivers, 246 catches, 3,755 yards and 27 touchdowns. We returned 26 catches for 377 yards and 5 touchdowns. We lost 91% of our catches, 90% of our receiving yardage and 84% of our touchdowns.

Our leading returning receiver was Austin, who caught 17 balls for 315 yards and 3 touchdowns. Our wide receivers and tight ends were comprised of 6 freshmen, 1 sophmore and 1 senior, Dykes who was coming off of major surgery.

so you are saying that Austin, Dykes, and Coxie were mere amateurs...got it.
Run along Stammers...you're going to try and argue with a brick wall. Sheesh.

(05-20-2021 08:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 01:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 05:06 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:33 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  I was a bit miffed at first when I read the article. I thought Silverfield got as much out of last year's team as anyone possibly could.
There just isn't enough data on him yet to rank him any higher just yet. That is a fair assessment. I do think he should be ranked a spot higher though.

That's fine on the surface. Where it breaks down is when you start comparing coaches.

Is it better to be career 8-3 (RS), or 31-40 (Montgomery)?
Is it better to be 5-3 (RS) in the AAC, or be 7-13 (Holgorsen)?

More games does not by definition make one coach better than another. You want Tubby Smith or Penny Hardaway?

How this season pans out will be the starting point of how we should rate Silverfield. Last season, we had a very experienced QB, WR corps...even though 1 ultimately decided to sit out. Despite the O line being up to snuff, we still had a really decent season and went 9-3.
This season...I am very optimistic. Our O line is as strong as I have ever seen at Memphis, period. Right now, it has to be considered the strength of the team. We'll be breaking in a new QB, and a newish set of RBs...WR corps. We should have a winning season...despite it being a 'rebuilding' year for us.
Our QB will get a chance to acclimate, as we look to run the ball more. If our WRs pitch in, I see no reason we shouldn't have at LEAST 9 wins. That should move Silverfield up the list quite a bit.

Quote:Last season, we had a very experienced QB, WR corps.

It is almost impossible that you aren't trolling. You aren't making any sense. We lost our top 5 receivers, 246 catches, 3,755 yards and 27 touchdowns. We returned 26 catches for 377 yards and 5 touchdowns. We lost 91% of our catches, 90% of our receiving yardage and 84% of our touchdowns.

Our leading returning receiver was Austin, who caught 17 balls for 315 yards and 3 touchdowns. Our wide receivers and tight ends were comprised of 6 freshmen, 1 sophmore and 1 senior, Dykes who was coming off of major surgery.

so you are saying that Austin, Dykes, and Coxie were mere amateurs...got it.
Run along Stammers...you're going to try and argue with a brick wall. Sheesh.

Mere amateurs? Wtf are you talking about? Coxie played 2 games. You are counting him as a wide receiver last year? That's almost as bad as Saluki saying that Thiero scored zero points and zero rebounds per game, when he had surgery and a plate in his leg before the season started.

Austin caught 17 passes. Dykes caught 13 passes the year before when he was healthy. Washington caught 3 passes, Wilson caught 4 passes. Ivory, Prieskorn, Tate, Mathieu and Moore caught zero between them. Our 4TH best receiver from the year before, Jones, caught more passes than all of our returning receivers and tight ends combined.

Quote:we had a very experienced QB, WR corps

Seriously, you are delirious.

Other than probably Fickell, I don't think I'd trade Silverfield for anyone ranked 1-8 on this list. Now maybe I'm a homer, but that tells me this list is trash.

(05-20-2021 10:30 PM)jlbphila Wrote:  Other than probably Fickell, I don't think I'd trade Silverfield for anyone ranked 1-8 on this list. Now maybe I'm a homer, but that tells me this list is trash.

I sure as hell wouldn't want any part of the guys from Houston, Tulsa, ECU, Tulane or Temple.

(05-20-2021 10:25 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 08:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 01:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 05:06 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 04:33 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  That's fine on the surface. Where it breaks down is when you start comparing coaches.

Is it better to be career 8-3 (RS), or 31-40 (Montgomery)?
Is it better to be 5-3 (RS) in the AAC, or be 7-13 (Holgorsen)?

More games does not by definition make one coach better than another. You want Tubby Smith or Penny Hardaway?

How this season pans out will be the starting point of how we should rate Silverfield. Last season, we had a very experienced QB, WR corps...even though 1 ultimately decided to sit out. Despite the O line being up to snuff, we still had a really decent season and went 9-3.
This season...I am very optimistic. Our O line is as strong as I have ever seen at Memphis, period. Right now, it has to be considered the strength of the team. We'll be breaking in a new QB, and a newish set of RBs...WR corps. We should have a winning season...despite it being a 'rebuilding' year for us.
Our QB will get a chance to acclimate, as we look to run the ball more. If our WRs pitch in, I see no reason we shouldn't have at LEAST 9 wins. That should move Silverfield up the list quite a bit.

Quote:Last season, we had a very experienced QB, WR corps.

It is almost impossible that you aren't trolling. You aren't making any sense. We lost our top 5 receivers, 246 catches, 3,755 yards and 27 touchdowns. We returned 26 catches for 377 yards and 5 touchdowns. We lost 91% of our catches, 90% of our receiving yardage and 84% of our touchdowns.

Our leading returning receiver was Austin, who caught 17 balls for 315 yards and 3 touchdowns. Our wide receivers and tight ends were comprised of 6 freshmen, 1 sophmore and 1 senior, Dykes who was coming off of major surgery.

so you are saying that Austin, Dykes, and Coxie were mere amateurs...got it.
Run along Stammers...you're going to try and argue with a brick wall. Sheesh.

Mere amateurs? Wtf are you talking about? Coxie played 2 games. You are counting him as a wide receiver last year? That's almost as bad as Saluki saying that Thiero scored zero points and zero rebounds per game, when he had surgery and a plate in his leg before the season started.

Austin caught 17 passes. Dykes caught 13 passes the year before when he was healthy. Washington caught 3 passes, Wilson caught 4 passes. Ivory, Prieskorn, Tate, Mathieu and Moore caught zero between them. Our 4TH best receiver from the year before, Jones, caught more passes than all of our returning receivers and tight ends combined.

Quote:we had a very experienced QB, WR corps

Seriously, you are delirious.

Going in to the season did you know Coxie was going to opt out? If you say you did...I want you to pick all my lottery tickets and stock investments from now on.
We had those players, and several red shirt juniors who didn't play much...if at all. They knew the offense...could have played if needed.
What do you call a player who has 1 or 2 years of knowledge of the offense they're playing in? (I'll wait)
Are you here to talk positively about the Tigers or are you going to try to start arguments and nitpick everyone?

Seriously, you are being an azz.

(05-21-2021 01:25 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 10:25 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 08:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 01:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-19-2021 05:06 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  How this season pans out will be the starting point of how we should rate Silverfield. Last season, we had a very experienced QB, WR corps...even though 1 ultimately decided to sit out. Despite the O line being up to snuff, we still had a really decent season and went 9-3.
This season...I am very optimistic. Our O line is as strong as I have ever seen at Memphis, period. Right now, it has to be considered the strength of the team. We'll be breaking in a new QB, and a newish set of RBs...WR corps. We should have a winning season...despite it being a 'rebuilding' year for us.
Our QB will get a chance to acclimate, as we look to run the ball more. If our WRs pitch in, I see no reason we shouldn't have at LEAST 9 wins. That should move Silverfield up the list quite a bit.

Quote:Last season, we had a very experienced QB, WR corps.

It is almost impossible that you aren't trolling. You aren't making any sense. We lost our top 5 receivers, 246 catches, 3,755 yards and 27 touchdowns. We returned 26 catches for 377 yards and 5 touchdowns. We lost 91% of our catches, 90% of our receiving yardage and 84% of our touchdowns.

Our leading returning receiver was Austin, who caught 17 balls for 315 yards and 3 touchdowns. Our wide receivers and tight ends were comprised of 6 freshmen, 1 sophmore and 1 senior, Dykes who was coming off of major surgery.

so you are saying that Austin, Dykes, and Coxie were mere amateurs...got it.
Run along Stammers...you're going to try and argue with a brick wall. Sheesh.

Mere amateurs? Wtf are you talking about? Coxie played 2 games. You are counting him as a wide receiver last year? That's almost as bad as Saluki saying that Thiero scored zero points and zero rebounds per game, when he had surgery and a plate in his leg before the season started.

Austin caught 17 passes. Dykes caught 13 passes the year before when he was healthy. Washington caught 3 passes, Wilson caught 4 passes. Ivory, Prieskorn, Tate, Mathieu and Moore caught zero between them. Our 4TH best receiver from the year before, Jones, caught more passes than all of our returning receivers and tight ends combined.

Quote:we had a very experienced QB, WR corps

Seriously, you are delirious.

Going in to the season did you know Coxie was going to opt out? If you say you did...I want you to pick all my lottery tickets and stock investments from now on.
We had those players, and several red shirt juniors who didn't play much...if at all. They knew the offense...could have played if needed.
What do you call a player who has 1 or 2 years of knowledge of the offense they're playing in? (I'll wait)
Are you here to talk positively about the Tigers or are you going to try to start arguments and nitpick everyone?

Seriously, you are being an azz.

Quote:Going in to the season did you know Coxie was going to opt out?

I know now he played 2 games and didn't play 9 games. Apparently you don't.

Quote:We had those players, and several red shirt juniors who didn't play much...if at all.

Complete List Of Redshirt Junior Wide Receiver/Tight Ends On Roster
R-JR - Austin
Apparently one is the same as several.

Returning Production
2020 - 26 catches, 377 yards, 5 touchdowns
2019 - 171 catches, 2,505 yards, 20 touchdowns
2018 - 101 catches, 1,637 yards, 15 touchdowns
2017 - 198 catches, 2,797 yards, 24 touchdowns
2016 - 146 catches, 2,052 yards, 12 touchdowns
2015 - 175 catches, 2,065 yards, 14 touchdowns

Experience
8 players, 8 seasons

Conclusion? We were very experienced, had "several" redshirt juniors, and I am nit picking. Take a hike.

(05-21-2021 05:56 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-21-2021 01:25 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 10:25 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 08:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 01:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  It is almost impossible that you aren't trolling. You aren't making any sense. We lost our top 5 receivers, 246 catches, 3,755 yards and 27 touchdowns. We returned 26 catches for 377 yards and 5 touchdowns. We lost 91% of our catches, 90% of our receiving yardage and 84% of our touchdowns.

Our leading returning receiver was Austin, who caught 17 balls for 315 yards and 3 touchdowns. Our wide receivers and tight ends were comprised of 6 freshmen, 1 sophmore and 1 senior, Dykes who was coming off of major surgery.

so you are saying that Austin, Dykes, and Coxie were mere amateurs...got it.
Run along Stammers...you're going to try and argue with a brick wall. Sheesh.

Mere amateurs? Wtf are you talking about? Coxie played 2 games. You are counting him as a wide receiver last year? That's almost as bad as Saluki saying that Thiero scored zero points and zero rebounds per game, when he had surgery and a plate in his leg before the season started.

Austin caught 17 passes. Dykes caught 13 passes the year before when he was healthy. Washington caught 3 passes, Wilson caught 4 passes. Ivory, Prieskorn, Tate, Mathieu and Moore caught zero between them. Our 4TH best receiver from the year before, Jones, caught more passes than all of our returning receivers and tight ends combined.

Quote:we had a very experienced QB, WR corps

Seriously, you are delirious.

Going in to the season did you know Coxie was going to opt out? If you say you did...I want you to pick all my lottery tickets and stock investments from now on.
We had those players, and several red shirt juniors who didn't play much...if at all. They knew the offense...could have played if needed.
What do you call a player who has 1 or 2 years of knowledge of the offense they're playing in? (I'll wait)
Are you here to talk positively about the Tigers or are you going to try to start arguments and nitpick everyone?

Seriously, you are being an azz.

Quote:Going in to the season did you know Coxie was going to opt out?

I know now he played 2 games and didn't play 9 games. Apparently you don't.

Quote:We had those players, and several red shirt juniors who didn't play much...if at all.

Complete List Of Redshirt Junior Wide Receiver/Tight Ends On Roster
R-JR - Austin
Apparently one is the same as several.

Returning Production
2020 - 26 catches, 377 yards, 5 touchdowns
2019 - 171 catches, 2,505 yards, 20 touchdowns
2018 - 101 catches, 1,637 yards, 15 touchdowns
2017 - 198 catches, 2,797 yards, 24 touchdowns
2016 - 146 catches, 2,052 yards, 12 touchdowns
2015 - 175 catches, 2,065 yards, 14 touchdowns

Experience
8 players, 8 seasons

Conclusion? We were very experienced, had "several" redshirt juniors, and I am nit picking. Take a hike.

Better stick to hockey Beau cave Gorby Hoser.

(05-21-2021 06:44 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-21-2021 05:56 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-21-2021 01:25 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 10:25 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-20-2021 08:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  so you are saying that Austin, Dykes, and Coxie were mere amateurs...got it.
Run along Stammers...you're going to try and argue with a brick wall. Sheesh.

Mere amateurs? Wtf are you talking about? Coxie played 2 games. You are counting him as a wide receiver last year? That's almost as bad as Saluki saying that Thiero scored zero points and zero rebounds per game, when he had surgery and a plate in his leg before the season started.

Austin caught 17 passes. Dykes caught 13 passes the year before when he was healthy. Washington caught 3 passes, Wilson caught 4 passes. Ivory, Prieskorn, Tate, Mathieu and Moore caught zero between them. Our 4TH best receiver from the year before, Jones, caught more passes than all of our returning receivers and tight ends combined.

Quote:we had a very experienced QB, WR corps

Seriously, you are delirious.

Going in to the season did you know Coxie was going to opt out? If you say you did...I want you to pick all my lottery tickets and stock investments from now on.
We had those players, and several red shirt juniors who didn't play much...if at all. They knew the offense...could have played if needed.
What do you call a player who has 1 or 2 years of knowledge of the offense they're playing in? (I'll wait)
Are you here to talk positively about the Tigers or are you going to try to start arguments and nitpick everyone?

Seriously, you are being an azz.

Quote:Going in to the season did you know Coxie was going to opt out?

I know now he played 2 games and didn't play 9 games. Apparently you don't.

Quote:We had those players, and several red shirt juniors who didn't play much...if at all.

Complete List Of Redshirt Junior Wide Receiver/Tight Ends On Roster
R-JR - Austin
Apparently one is the same as several.

Returning Production
2020 - 26 catches, 377 yards, 5 touchdowns
2019 - 171 catches, 2,505 yards, 20 touchdowns
2018 - 101 catches, 1,637 yards, 15 touchdowns
2017 - 198 catches, 2,797 yards, 24 touchdowns
2016 - 146 catches, 2,052 yards, 12 touchdowns
2015 - 175 catches, 2,065 yards, 14 touchdowns

Experience
8 players, 8 seasons

Conclusion? We were very experienced, had "several" redshirt juniors, and I am nit picking. Take a hike.

Better stick to hockey Beau cave Gorby Hoser.

While Stammers can pick unnecessary fights every once in a while, he is dead on here. We did not have an experienced WR/TE group last year, especially when you compare it to our WR/TEs in previous years. It's not even debatable.

The most important piece of last years team was Brady.

Now the question becomes can Silverfield train another QB on his own.

(05-21-2021 08:28 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  The most important piece of last years team was Brady.

Now the question becomes can Silverfield train another QB on his own.

That's going to define him as a coach, just like Fuente and Paxton.

It looks like the potential is there at QB.

(05-21-2021 08:28 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  The most important piece of last years team was Brady.

Now the question becomes can Silverfield train another QB on his own.

I like our odds. We know for sure that Gunnell is going to at least be average and he might turn out to be really good. Any of the other 3 might turn out to be just as good, if not better than Gunnell.

(05-21-2021 08:28 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  The most important piece of last years team was Brady.

Now the question becomes can Silverfield train another QB on his own.

Our QB won't have to carry the load like Brady did last season. Our OL has been rebuilt... our RBs should be able to eat up some yards...take some pressure off.

(05-21-2021 08:28 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  The most important piece of last years team was Brady.

Now the question becomes can Silverfield train another QB on his own.

Agreed. With a new QB, it always seems to be a concern but we cannot argue with the success we have had. Our line will be key but hopeful not having to deal with the distractions of the 'rona will lead to an enjoyable season. I was able to attend several games last year but it was hard to get into it.

My job involves traveling. On a trip this week to NYC, all 4 flights were completely full. While there, New York eased restrictions considerably which was a relief to me. Things are getting more close to 'normal' and am happy for that. Label me optimistic for a successful football season and for CRS to make a big leap forward as well.

(05-21-2021 10:49 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(05-21-2021 08:28 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  The most important piece of last years team was Brady.

Now the question becomes can Silverfield train another QB on his own.

Our QB won't have to carry the load like Brady did last season. Our OL has been rebuilt... our RBs should be able to eat up some yards...take some pressure off.

I hope so...

But last years crop of running backs were definitely a step back, I don't think it was entirely the line. Expecting the same production running the ball under Norvell may be unrealistic unless we add another RB.