RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-22-2021 03:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:18 PM)VA49er Wrote: I'm no lawyer, but I think Dominion will now have to put up or shut up. My guess is it doesn't get that far.
I don’t see why Dominion wouldn’t follow this all the way through. They have been defamed, and they would love nothing more than to clear their name in court. I would expect Rudy, Lindell, Fox, OAN, Newsmax, the Trump campaign & the Kraken to all get their day in court.
You really don't know how this works.
there's no fixin' stoopid.....better yet, we call that the jew-dewey decimatonial system...
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-22-2021 02:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:22 PM)solohawks Wrote: yeah, that whole discovery thing for Dominion seems like it would be brutal
Why?
They're regulated already. There is no there there. They count paper ballots all the time and compare them to the Dominion machines. They've never found a material error.
Regulated...you mean like Texas rejecting them due to security flaws?
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-22-2021 04:48 PM)solohawks Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:22 PM)solohawks Wrote: yeah, that whole discovery thing for Dominion seems like it would be brutal
Why?
They're regulated already. There is no there there. They count paper ballots all the time and compare them to the Dominion machines. They've never found a material error.
Regulated...you mean like Texas rejecting them due to security flaws?
Dominion had no problem smashing regulations this election cycle. Regulations call for only 1 in 125,000 to 1 in 250,000 ballots to fail to scan and get sent to adjudication. lulz at the real numbers that failed.
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-22-2021 03:37 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: There are enough signed affadavits that DOminion can never win.
However, if they allow it to go to discovery, DOminion can LOSE big time.
Keep in mind, there is a reason Texas rejected them state wide. Do they really want the planet to know how easily their systems are hacked into. And all the games that can be played, like adjudication?
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-22-2021 03:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:18 PM)VA49er Wrote: I'm no lawyer, but I think Dominion will now have to put up or shut up. My guess is it doesn't get that far.
I don’t see why Dominion wouldn’t follow this all the way through. They have been defamed, and they would love nothing more than to clear their name in court. I would expect Rudy, Lindell, Fox, OAN, Newsmax, the Trump campaign & the Kraken to all get their day in court.
You really don't know how this works.
Sheesh, he doesn't even know where his parents get their money that they give him. He really thinks it grows on trees that's why he defends tree huggers. We gotta save those trees otherwise the money will not appear.
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-22-2021 05:18 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(02-22-2021 04:48 PM)solohawks Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:22 PM)solohawks Wrote: yeah, that whole discovery thing for Dominion seems like it would be brutal
Why?
They're regulated already. There is no there there. They count paper ballots all the time and compare them to the Dominion machines. They've never found a material error.
Regulated...you mean like Texas rejecting them due to security flaws?
Dominion had no problem smashing regulations this election cycle. Regulations call for only 1 in 125,000 to 1 in 250,000 ballots to fail to scan and get sent to adjudication. lulz at the real numbers that failed.
Cite the regulation jack. Hint. It doesn't exist. Your fake audit firm just made it up.
Quote:In his report, Ramsland claimed, “The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%).” On the Antrim machines, he wrote, he “observed an error rate of 68.05%.”
The FEC regulates campaign finance, not voting equipment, and has no such guideline. The federal agency that does deal with voting equipment is the Election Assistance Commission. Antrim County’s Dominion tabulators are certified by the EAC. In Michigan, 65 out of the state’s 83 counties use voting systems manufactured by Dominion.
Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is “1 in 250,000 ballots.”
Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 “total lines or events” in Antrim’s tabulation logs. “Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication,” he wrote, without giving more details or saying that they did result in such errors.
The EAC certification requirements that Antrim’s Dominion machines had to meet establish certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems, but the tabulation logs track something else.
Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser to the elections program at the Washington, D.C.-based Democracy Fund, explained in an email to the Free Press that tabulation logs “aren’t the lines of code that run the system. They're logs of activities occurring in the process of tabulation. The lines of code that are reviewed in certification are the actual software codes." She said Ramsland’s report was “confusing many, many things.”
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
This is like the Kenya birthgate deal with Obama. The voting machines are the wrong place to look for the problem. The problem was allowing "mail-in ballots" and other procedures with significantly reduced verification and validation processes. When those verification and validation processes were not that strong to begin with, the potential for massive fraud exists.
What republicans need to do is to enact the strongest controls possible in every state where they control the legislature and governor's mansion, and start planning to win 2022 and 2024 now, the way democrats were plotting to win 2018 and 2020 by this time 4 years ago. If the economy heads where I think it is going, 2024 will be the most winnable presidential election in decades, and if it happens soon enough then 2022 might be the most winnable by-election. But republicans need to get over their pity party and go to work. If democrats can win in 2022, and particularly if they can run the thoroughly unlikeable Kamala the **** and win in 2024, it will stick a fork in us time. And China is building that fork as we sit here.
(This post was last modified: 02-23-2021 10:16 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-23-2021 07:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(02-22-2021 05:18 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(02-22-2021 04:48 PM)solohawks Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:22 PM)solohawks Wrote: yeah, that whole discovery thing for Dominion seems like it would be brutal
Why?
They're regulated already. There is no there there. They count paper ballots all the time and compare them to the Dominion machines. They've never found a material error.
Regulated...you mean like Texas rejecting them due to security flaws?
Dominion had no problem smashing regulations this election cycle. Regulations call for only 1 in 125,000 to 1 in 250,000 ballots to fail to scan and get sent to adjudication. lulz at the real numbers that failed.
Cite the regulation jack. Hint. It doesn't exist. Your fake audit firm just made it up.
Quote:In his report, Ramsland claimed, “The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%).” On the Antrim machines, he wrote, he “observed an error rate of 68.05%.”
The FEC regulates campaign finance, not voting equipment, and has no such guideline. The federal agency that does deal with voting equipment is the Election Assistance Commission. Antrim County’s Dominion tabulators are certified by the EAC. In Michigan, 65 out of the state’s 83 counties use voting systems manufactured by Dominion.
Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is “1 in 250,000 ballots.”
Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 “total lines or events” in Antrim’s tabulation logs. “Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication,” he wrote, without giving more details or saying that they did result in such errors.
The EAC certification requirements that Antrim’s Dominion machines had to meet establish certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems, but the tabulation logs track something else.
Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser to the elections program at the Washington, D.C.-based Democracy Fund, explained in an email to the Free Press that tabulation logs “aren’t the lines of code that run the system. They're logs of activities occurring in the process of tabulation. The lines of code that are reviewed in certification are the actual software codes." She said Ramsland’s report was “confusing many, many things.”
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-23-2021 10:42 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(02-23-2021 07:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(02-22-2021 05:18 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(02-22-2021 04:48 PM)solohawks Wrote:
(02-22-2021 02:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Why?
They're regulated already. There is no there there. They count paper ballots all the time and compare them to the Dominion machines. They've never found a material error.
Regulated...you mean like Texas rejecting them due to security flaws?
Dominion had no problem smashing regulations this election cycle. Regulations call for only 1 in 125,000 to 1 in 250,000 ballots to fail to scan and get sent to adjudication. lulz at the real numbers that failed.
Cite the regulation jack. Hint. It doesn't exist. Your fake audit firm just made it up.
Quote:In his report, Ramsland claimed, “The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%).” On the Antrim machines, he wrote, he “observed an error rate of 68.05%.”
The FEC regulates campaign finance, not voting equipment, and has no such guideline. The federal agency that does deal with voting equipment is the Election Assistance Commission. Antrim County’s Dominion tabulators are certified by the EAC. In Michigan, 65 out of the state’s 83 counties use voting systems manufactured by Dominion.
Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is “1 in 250,000 ballots.”
Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 “total lines or events” in Antrim’s tabulation logs. “Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication,” he wrote, without giving more details or saying that they did result in such errors.
The EAC certification requirements that Antrim’s Dominion machines had to meet establish certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems, but the tabulation logs track something else.
Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser to the elections program at the Washington, D.C.-based Democracy Fund, explained in an email to the Free Press that tabulation logs “aren’t the lines of code that run the system. They're logs of activities occurring in the process of tabulation. The lines of code that are reviewed in certification are the actual software codes." She said Ramsland’s report was “confusing many, many things.”
The tweet is sourced to a consultants report. The report may or may not be wrong, but the tweet accurately portrays the report findings.
What tweet?
And sure...you can correctly report what the non-independent audit by a discredit firm found. Doesn't make their conclusions correct...especially when they think Minnesota is Michigan and that the FEC regulates voting machines or has some non-existent error tolerance rate.
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
Pillow man says that he will lose 65 million dollars in sales this year because of boycotts. As a final touch it would be amusing if the companies that dropped My Pillow replace it with David Hogg's pillow. The politicization of pillows - that's where we're at:-)
RE: Dominion files 1.3 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell...
(02-23-2021 10:15 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: This is like the Kenya birthgate deal with Obama. The voting machines are the wrong place to look for the problem. The problem was allowing "mail-in ballots" and other procedures with significantly reduced verification and validation processes. When those verification and validation processes were not that strong to begin with, the potential for massive fraud exists.
What republicans need to do is to enact the strongest controls possible in every state where they control the legislature and governor's mansion, and start planning to win 2022 and 2024 now, the way democrats were plotting to win 2018 and 2020 by this time 4 years ago. If the economy heads where I think it is going, 2024 will be the most winnable presidential election in decades, and if it happens soon enough then 2022 might be the most winnable by-election. But republicans need to get over their pity party and go to work. If democrats can win in 2022, and particularly if they can run the thoroughly unlikeable Kamala the **** and win in 2024, it will stick a fork in us time. And China is building that fork as we sit here.
w/o question, mail-in was the (t)reason....even I didn't think the donks could cheat the way it went down....
I adamantly disagree with the state solution....the 'sip already has those controls in place while others will never change...
like federal taxes, federal elections should require a federal standard in every state....we both know why that will never happen....
PISSING IN A DONKEY GALE
(This post was last modified: 02-24-2021 08:23 AM by stinkfist.)