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I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?
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FBS has never been a good idea for them. It was worth a try but we need to help move them out of this league.


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(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

They beat a Nick Saban-coached Alabama team. Has any other Belt team performed that feat. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao
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(01-09-2021 10:15 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

They beat a Nick Saban-coached Alabama team. Has any other Belt team performed that feat. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

I get we have only had one winning season and 5 or 6 .500 seasons since going FBS, but I think if you look it up overall we have consistently in been middle of the pack Sunbelt football. With that said, I do think we need this hire to work.
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(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

I know this will come across as hating on ULM, but I’ve been told by people very high up in the UL System that this is it for ULM. It’s a make or break hire, either they start winning and raise a substantial amount of outside funds or FBS football is over. Even talks of folding the program instead of a move to FCS.

Now, if the students pass an athletic fee that could generate an additional $5M per year that could be a solution. But it’s highly unlikely.
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(01-09-2021 10:01 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  FBS has never been a good idea for them. It was worth a try but we need to help move them out of this league.


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That problem isn’t unique to them either.
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(01-09-2021 10:15 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

They beat a Nick Saban-coached Alabama team. Has any other Belt team performed that feat. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

Wouldn’t know if we could... never got the chance back then haha. 03-weeping
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(01-09-2021 11:16 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 10:01 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  FBS has never been a good idea for them. It was worth a try but we need to help move them out of this league.


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That problem isn’t unique to them either.


They’d fit in with the MAC money wise.


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(01-09-2021 11:09 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

I know this will come across as hating on ULM, but I’ve been told by people very high up in the UL System that this is it for ULM. It’s a make or break hire, either they start winning and raise a substantial amount of outside funds or FBS football is over. Even talks of folding the program instead of a move to FCS.

Now, if the students pass an athletic fee that could generate an additional $5M per year that could be a solution. But it’s highly unlikely.

What’s that per student? Surely sports are important to that region?
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(01-09-2021 11:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 11:09 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

I know this will come across as hating on ULM, but I’ve been told by people very high up in the UL System that this is it for ULM. It’s a make or break hire, either they start winning and raise a substantial amount of outside funds or FBS football is over. Even talks of folding the program instead of a move to FCS.

Now, if the students pass an athletic fee that could generate an additional $5M per year that could be a solution. But it’s highly unlikely.

What’s that per student? Surely sports are important to that region?


ULM sports aren’t important in that area. That’s the problem.


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(01-09-2021 11:22 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 11:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 11:09 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

I know this will come across as hating on ULM, but I’ve been told by people very high up in the UL System that this is it for ULM. It’s a make or break hire, either they start winning and raise a substantial amount of outside funds or FBS football is over. Even talks of folding the program instead of a move to FCS.

Now, if the students pass an athletic fee that could generate an additional $5M per year that could be a solution. But it’s highly unlikely.

What’s that per student? Surely sports are important to that region?


ULM sports aren’t important in that area. That’s the problem.


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I meant sports in general. However more $$ doesn’t always = better teams. It definitely helps and that could help make ULM more fun. Don’t we all want to see the day ULM is better than La Tech who is always talking bad about them
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(01-09-2021 11:25 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 11:22 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 11:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 11:09 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

I know this will come across as hating on ULM, but I’ve been told by people very high up in the UL System that this is it for ULM. It’s a make or break hire, either they start winning and raise a substantial amount of outside funds or FBS football is over. Even talks of folding the program instead of a move to FCS.

Now, if the students pass an athletic fee that could generate an additional $5M per year that could be a solution. But it’s highly unlikely.

What’s that per student? Surely sports are important to that region?


ULM sports aren’t important in that area. That’s the problem.


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I meant sports in general. However more $$ doesn’t always = better teams. It definitely helps and that could help. Don’t we all want to see the day ULM is better than La Tech who is always talking bad about them


Sure. But it’s not going to happen.


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They will show if we win. I have no doubt. We had rally nice crowds in 2012.
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(01-09-2021 11:32 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  They will show if we win. I have no doubt. We had rally nice crowds in 2012.

I guess that’s why Bowden was hired huh? Man with experience vs young guy with potential.
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(01-09-2021 11:32 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  They will show if we win. I have no doubt. We had rally nice crowds in 2012.


That was a fun year. Y’all beat Arkansas and they we kicked your butts a few weeks later.

The good ole days.


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I think if ULM had an admin that cared about athletics the same way the other SBC schools do, they would have high potential for success.

They already demonstrated that back in the 80's and 90's in football... won a 1AA national title in 1987, was consistently a Top 25 team in 1AA for a little while... and shortly after moving to 1A, they were beating teams like Kentucky, Mississippi State, UCF, and Hawaii.

Also of note: ULM has the most P5 victories of any current SBC team dating back to when the SBC started football. The fact they've accomplished that while having bad seasons says something about their potential.
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I see both ULM and Akron in the same boat athletically except Akron has a 34.6 million dollar athletic budget. Production on the field is close though. In Terry Bowden's 7 seasons at Akron he was 35-52 (23-33) with one winning season.

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2014 5-7
2015 8-5 (Won Famos Idaho Potato Bowl 23-21 over Utah State)
2016 5-7
2017 7-7 (Lost Boca Raton bowl 50-3 to FAU)
2018 4-8

None of Bowden's recruiting classes were ever in the top half of the MAC.

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2012 12
2013 9
2014 8
2015 12
2016 12
2017 12
2018 12

If he couldn't do it at Akron with a bigger athletic budget I just don't see how he will do it in Monroe LA. In his 7 years at Akron and his 35 wins only 3 came against schools that posted a winning season.
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(01-10-2021 01:06 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  I see both ULM and Akron in the same boat athletically except Akron has a 34.6 million dollar athletic budget. Production on the field is close though. In Terry Bowden's 7 seasons at Akron he was 35-52 (23-33) with one winning season.

2012 1-11
2013 5-7
2014 5-7
2015 8-5 (Won Famos Idaho Potato Bowl 23-21 over Utah State)
2016 5-7
2017 7-7 (Lost Boca Raton bowl 50-3 to FAU)
2018 4-8

None of Bowden's recruiting classes were ever in the top half of the MAC.

Akron Recruiting Ranks In The MAC

2012 12
2013 9
2014 8
2015 12
2016 12
2017 12
2018 12

If he couldn't do it at Akron with a bigger athletic budget I just don't see how he will do it in Monroe LA. In his 7 years at Akron and his 35 wins only 3 came against schools that posted a winning season.

Yeah it’ll be tough. Maybe with his experience watching a younger coach like Dabo it has refreshed him in a way, idk. The transfer portal could also be a saving grace because players don’t have to sit out a year anymore I don’t think, which is different than when he was at Akron. I don’t know much another either place but does Monroe’s location beat out Akron’s? I mean not far from New Orleans, Dallas, Little Rock, or Memphis.
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(01-10-2021 12:19 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I think if ULM had an admin that cared about athletics the same way the other SBC schools do, they would have high potential for success.

They already demonstrated that back in the 80's and 90's in football... won a 1AA national title in 1987, was consistently a Top 25 team in 1AA for a little while... and shortly after moving to 1A, they were beating teams like Kentucky, Mississippi State, UCF, and Hawaii.

Also of note: ULM has the most P5 victories of any current SBC team dating back to when the SBC started football. The fact they've accomplished that while having bad seasons says something about their potential.

In 2019 they were only 9 points away from being 8-4. Honestly I want ULM to succeed because a ULM that is better than most of the CUSA is perfect way to stick it to them plus when we begin to renegotiate with ESPN it’ll be important. 2 things I really want is for us to have one bowl game vs P5 and a payout that’s 800k+ (1mil if are lucky 03-lmfao) without as many weekday games as the MAC.
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(01-09-2021 11:09 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

I know this will come across as hating on ULM, but I’ve been told by people very high up in the UL System that this is it for ULM. It’s a make or break hire, either they start winning and raise a substantial amount of outside funds or FBS football is over. Even talks of folding the program instead of a move to FCS.

Now, if the students pass an athletic fee that could generate an additional $5M per year that could be a solution. But it’s highly unlikely.


Lol thought we were shutting down the program two weeks ago according to you?

As much as we've struggled we've also refused to spend way above our means ( one of the only benefits of not spending much) and only did facilities if we had the money instead of bonding.

I would hope that the UL system would be more concerned with the 5 million dollar yearly debt of the school in laffy ( pre covid) then our football record. I'm tired of the state tax payers putting more money into your schools athletic budget because you can't balance the books.

We are as successful as the Cajuns at not making money from athletics. Just turns out that we lose a lot more games to get to this lack of financial success
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