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In the last 5 years ULM conference record is 15-24. Coming into the 2020 season we were 15-17 within the conference.

Conference record the last five years:

Georgia St. 16-24
Texas St. 6-34
USA-11-29

You guys need to find something else to worry about. We will be find.

BTW, the Cajuns and La. Tech have been saying ULM is about to go under ever since there has been message boards. Well twenty something years later we're still here.
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(01-10-2021 09:44 AM)TexasWarhawk Wrote:  In the last 5 years ULM conference record is 15-24. Coming into the 2020 season we were 15-17 within the conference.

Conference record the last five years:

Georgia St. 16-24
Texas St. 6-34
USA-11-29

You guys need to find something else to worry about. We will be find.

BTW, the Cajuns and La. Tech have been saying ULM is about to go under ever since there has been message boards. Well twenty something years later we're still here.

I’m just relaying what I’ve heard from people pretty high up within the ULS.
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(01-10-2021 12:19 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I think if ULM had an admin that cared about athletics the same way the other SBC schools do, they would have high potential for success.

They already demonstrated that back in the 80's and 90's in football... won a 1AA national title in 1987, was consistently a Top 25 team in 1AA for a little while... and shortly after moving to 1A, they were beating teams like Kentucky, Mississippi State, UCF, and Hawaii.

Also of note: ULM has the most P5 victories of any current SBC team dating back to when the SBC started football. The fact they've accomplished that while having bad seasons says something about their potential.

This isn’t me trying to dunk on ULM, but what do they have to care about besides sports? They are one of the smallest schools in FBS and to my knowledge they aren’t really topping any academic lists in the ULS much less the country. If the admin isn’t already 100% committed to D1 FBS athletics, why not? D1 Athletics is the only thing that separates UL-Monroe from LSU-Shreveport.
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(01-09-2021 10:42 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 10:15 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

They beat a Nick Saban-coached Alabama team. Has any other Belt team performed that feat. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

I get we have only had one winning season and 5 or 6 .500 seasons since going FBS, but I think if you look it up overall we have consistently in been middle of the pack Sunbelt football. With that said, I do think we need this hire to work.

Unlike some of my other Louisiana Ragin Cajun brothers I hope ULM succeeds. I really hope this works out for the University. Good Luck of course except when yall play the Cajuns.
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(01-10-2021 09:44 AM)TexasWarhawk Wrote:  In the last 5 years ULM conference record is 15-24. Coming into the 2020 season we were 15-17 within the conference.

Conference record the last five years:

Georgia St. 16-24
Texas St. 6-34
USA-11-29

You guys need to find something else to worry about. We will be find.

BTW, the Cajuns and La. Tech have been saying ULM is about to go under ever since there has been message boards. Well twenty something years later we're still here.
Throwing shade our way. We know that we are in the middle of our worst football stretch in school history.

It sucks.
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(01-10-2021 02:26 AM)Warhawkman Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 11:09 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-09-2021 09:21 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I have a question,

if the Bowden experiment flops horribly for ULM what could that mean for them for the future? How much longer can this leadership hope that FBS is their best move or their fellow Sun Belt schools want continued fellowship? This isn’t meant to put them down I just know they constantly are being seen as a reason the Sun Belt is being held back.

Now if Bowden comes in and instills a winning system and they string a few consecutive years of winning records or bowl wins, is it enough to change perception of their athletics and as a result helps their others improve?

Aside from TV money, what is ULMs motivation?

Other Sun Belt fans: what are y’all’s honest opinions or thoughts about ULM?

I know this will come across as hating on ULM, but I’ve been told by people very high up in the UL System that this is it for ULM. It’s a make or break hire, either they start winning and raise a substantial amount of outside funds or FBS football is over. Even talks of folding the program instead of a move to FCS.

Now, if the students pass an athletic fee that could generate an additional $5M per year that could be a solution. But it’s highly unlikely.


Lol thought we were shutting down the program two weeks ago according to you?

As much as we've struggled we've also refused to spend way above our means ( one of the only benefits of not spending much) and only did facilities if we had the money instead of bonding.

I would hope that the UL system would be more concerned with the 5 million dollar yearly debt of the school in laffy ( pre covid) then our football record. I'm tired of the state tax payers putting more money into your schools athletic budget because you can't balance the books.

We are as successful as the Cajuns at not making money from athletics. Just turns out that we lose a lot more games to get to this lack of financial success

That was covered by the schools general fund and UL is the only school not named LSU that does not receive direct state funding for athletics
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(01-10-2021 09:44 AM)TexasWarhawk Wrote:  In the last 5 years ULM conference record is 15-24. Coming into the 2020 season we were 15-17 within the conference.

Conference record the last five years:

Georgia St. 16-24
Texas St. 6-34
USA-11-29

You guys need to find something else to worry about. We will be find.

BTW, the Cajuns and La. Tech have been saying ULM is about to go under ever since there has been message boards. Well twenty something years later we're still here.

That’s their recruiting tool against ULM, don’t go play there, they are about to shut that thing down. Hopefully the Bowden hire can get some money infused not only into football, but all the athletics at ULM. The truth of the matter is there are 3 DI programs within 30 miles of each other in a not heavily populated area. Need something at ULM and Monroe to encourage recruiters to want to be there.
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(01-10-2021 03:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 09:44 AM)TexasWarhawk Wrote:  In the last 5 years ULM conference record is 15-24. Coming into the 2020 season we were 15-17 within the conference.

Conference record the last five years:

Georgia St. 16-24
Texas St. 6-34
USA-11-29

You guys need to find something else to worry about. We will be find.

BTW, the Cajuns and La. Tech have been saying ULM is about to go under ever since there has been message boards. Well twenty something years later we're still here.

That’s their recruiting tool against ULM, don’t go play there, they are about to shut that thing down. Hopefully the Bowden hire can get some money infused not only into football, but all the athletics at ULM. The truth of the matter is there are 3 DI programs within 30 miles of each other in a not heavily populated area. Need something at ULM and Monroe to encourage recruiters to want to be there.


2 problems that ULM will never overcome

1. They do not pay Cost of attendance
2. Monroe does not support ULM like at all

Tom Landry or Nick Saban can coach there and they would still be unsuccessful
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(01-10-2021 05:24 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  1. They do not pay Cost of attendance


They don't pay cost of attendance at all? I've heard of some schools paying a percentage but not paying at all is a huge disadvantage.
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(01-10-2021 05:40 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:24 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  1. They do not pay Cost of attendance


They don't pay cost of attendance at all? I've heard of some schools paying a percentage but not paying at all is a huge disadvantage.

Not a penny compared to UL who pays upwards of 10k a year to a player. How are you going to compete against that
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(01-10-2021 05:40 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:24 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  1. They do not pay Cost of attendance


They don't pay cost of attendance at all? I've heard of some schools paying a percentage but not paying at all is a huge disadvantage.

They can’t afford it. Trust me I’d much rather ULM over La Tech. But I have been told by sources very high in the system that Bowden is their last shot. Unless they pass a student athletic fee or find more local monetary support.

Even BirdofParadise alluded to that as well.
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(01-10-2021 05:44 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:40 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:24 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  1. They do not pay Cost of attendance


They don't pay cost of attendance at all? I've heard of some schools paying a percentage but not paying at all is a huge disadvantage.

Not a penny compared to UL who pays upwards of 10k a year to a player. How are you going to compete against that

Really, $10k a year??? I didn’t realize the COA was that high for schools. I have no idea what South pays, or any other school. I’m surprised it’s that much.
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(01-10-2021 06:10 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:44 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:40 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:24 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  1. They do not pay Cost of attendance


They don't pay cost of attendance at all? I've heard of some schools paying a percentage but not paying at all is a huge disadvantage.

Not a penny compared to UL who pays upwards of 10k a year to a player. How are you going to compete against that

Really, $10k a year??? I didn’t realize the COA was that high for schools. I have no idea what South pays, or any other school. I’m surprised it’s that much.

That's the number the AD said last year
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(01-10-2021 06:14 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 06:10 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:44 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:40 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:24 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  1. They do not pay Cost of attendance


They don't pay cost of attendance at all? I've heard of some schools paying a percentage but not paying at all is a huge disadvantage.

Not a penny compared to UL who pays upwards of 10k a year to a player. How are you going to compete against that

Really, $10k a year??? I didn’t realize the COA was that high for schools. I have no idea what South pays, or any other school. I’m surprised it’s that much.

That's the number the AD said last year

Is that cash payment over schooarships??? Next thing we are going to have is a “Cost of Attendance Cap” like a salary cap, for each sport. That seems crazy to pay a million dollars to your football players.
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(01-10-2021 06:23 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 06:14 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 06:10 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:44 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 05:40 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  They don't pay cost of attendance at all? I've heard of some schools paying a percentage but not paying at all is a huge disadvantage.

Not a penny compared to UL who pays upwards of 10k a year to a player. How are you going to compete against that

Really, $10k a year??? I didn’t realize the COA was that high for schools. I have no idea what South pays, or any other school. I’m surprised it’s that much.

That's the number the AD said last year

Is that cash payment over schooarships??? Next thing we are going to have is a “Cost of Attendance Cap” like a salary cap, for each sport. That seems crazy to pay a million dollars to your football players.

Yep it's $11,228 after scholarship
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I didn’t realize it was that much, I thought it was going to be a couple grand a year, not $11k a year. I hadn’t paid attention to the COA stuff since it passed a couple years ago. It’s still crazy to me to think they are given an education, housing and food and still paid that much money. I had years after college that I made less then $10k and had to pay for everything. These kids are running to high of a lifestyle as students if they need $1k a month spending money.
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(01-10-2021 07:04 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I didn’t realize it was that much, I thought it was going to be a couple grand a year, not $11k a year. I hadn’t paid attention to the COA stuff since it passed a couple years ago. It’s still crazy to me to think they are given an education, housing and food and still paid that much money. I had years after college that I made less then $10k and had to pay for everything. These kids are running to high of a lifestyle as students if they need $1k a month spending money.

It's what is determined as the official cost of attendance for any student to attend a university when you include tuition, housing, food, and other expenses. This is what it should cost everyone at Louisiana. Also, athletes are not required by the NCAA to stay on campus anymore so likely they're not getting lodging on campus, they're staying somewhere else so that's a cost they have.

The problem is comparing your costs when you were in college to what they have to pay now. The cost of going to college has exploded even since I was in school. If you want to fix the COA being given to athletes, then fix the costs of higher education instead.
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ULM is one of 4 FBS & 6 FCS public universities in a state with a population of 4.5 million. By comparison there are 5 FBS & 3 public FCS schools in NC with a population of 10.5 million. There are only so many tax dollars to go around and far fewer of them per school in Louisiana. With a student population of barely 9,000 there's not much in the way of student fees for the program to depend on. Take away the revenue lost due to the pandemic and the deck is really stacked against them. Unless there is some serious private fund raising going on in Monroe there's little wonder the program is in dire straits.
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(01-10-2021 07:47 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  ULM is one of 4 FBS & 6 FCS public universities in a state with a population of 4.5 million. By comparison there are 5 FBS & 3 public FCS schools in NC with a population of 10.5 million. There are only so many tax dollars to go around and far fewer of them per school in Louisiana. With a student population of barely 9,000 there's not much in the way of student fees for the program to depend on. Take away the revenue lost due to the pandemic and the deck is really stacked against them. Unless there is some serious private fund raising going on in Monroe there's little wonder the program is in dire straits.

Outside of Central link it's just farmers in Monroe.

I worked up there for 5 years the area and students rather support the tigers on Saturday. Not saying Lafayette is much better but there is a reason why LSU is so butt hurt with UL fans
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(01-10-2021 08:09 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  
(01-10-2021 07:47 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  ULM is one of 4 FBS & 6 FCS public universities in a state with a population of 4.5 million. By comparison there are 5 FBS & 3 public FCS schools in NC with a population of 10.5 million. There are only so many tax dollars to go around and far fewer of them per school in Louisiana. With a student population of barely 9,000 there's not much in the way of student fees for the program to depend on. Take away the revenue lost due to the pandemic and the deck is really stacked against them. Unless there is some serious private fund raising going on in Monroe there's little wonder the program is in dire straits.

Outside of Central link it's just farmers in Monroe.

I worked up there for 5 years the area and students rather support the tigers on Saturday. Not saying Lafayette is much better but there is a reason why LSU is so butt hurt with UL fans

Nothing but farmer’s besides CenturyLink? Seriously? LOL
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