(01-03-2021 12:37 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 12:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  hell, half the GOP lawmakers going along with Trump don't agree with him...they're just afraid of reprisal

The reprisal is coming from We The People; President Trump is just the conduit. The People continue their strong support for President Trump: https://csnbbs.com/thread-914023.html

your conduit is ruining your message tho...

(01-03-2021 12:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 12:37 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 12:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  hell, half the GOP lawmakers going along with Trump don't agree with him...they're just afraid of reprisal

The reprisal is coming from We The People; President Trump is just the conduit. The People continue their strong support for President Trump: https://csnbbs.com/thread-914023.html

your conduit is ruining your message tho...

And yours has done Communist China proud. Easy to choose between those two options. #Stop-the-Steal.

the objection to individual electors sounds like it could be the ultimate form of the fillibuster.

Sen. Johnson: Electoral College Challenge Aimed to 'Protect Democratic Process'

Quote:“We’re suggesting let's set up a … bipartisan commission to organize all the allegations…. acknowledge the problem areas that have not been explained so that we can restore confidence in the election system,” he said.

“This is an unsustainable state of affairs now. That's all we're saying. As long as someone will be objecting to this, let's propose a solution of transparency, investigation and with a commission,” he said.

I thought that Dems were supposed to be for transparency but curiously here they are doing the exact opposite of what they did with fake impeachgate, fake kavanaughgate, fake russiagate, etc... wonder what they are trying so hard to hide from The People?

Quote:GOP Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy is in negotiations with Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to block the reported 140+ representatives and a dozen senators who have publicly announced their intentions to object to controversial slates of electors submitted from contested states with credible accusations of widespread voter fraud, senior Capitol Hill sources tell National File.

Our sources explain that a McCarthy and Pelosi effort to stymie the grassroots-led effort to pursue a transparent 2020 election would mark a decided break from the populist flavored politics of the last four years back toward the bi-partisan days of back room deals, horse trading, and pay-to-play lobbying D.C. is so famous for.

National File’s sources also note that Vice President Mike Pence, as the presiding officer of the joint session of Congress scheduled for January 6, would almost certainly be informed of this effort.

Such a move would almost certainly derail Minority Leader McCarthy’s chances of one day assuming the role of House Speaker, multiple sources tell National File.

The move would be designed to stop a potential contingent election in the House of Representatives. If the Republican-led Senate and Pence were to refuse to accept Electoral College votes from states with credible accusations of widespread voter fraud, and neither President Donald Trump nor Joe Biden receive the requisite 270 electoral votes, a contingent election would be required in the House of Representatives.

In a contingent election, each state represented in the House only receives one vote. As National File previously reported, “While the House of Representatives has more representatives based on population, there are currently 27 states that have sent Republican representatives to the House, and 20 states that have sent Democratic representatives to the House. Three states have an even split.”

In an email to National File, McCarthy’s office explicitly denied that he is working to block this, contradicting multiple senior Congressional staff members who spoke to National File.

Since the election, McCarthy has been an unreliable ally of the President’s at best. In November, shortly after the election was contested by President Donald Trump, McCarthy caved to corporate media pressure after initially declaring President Trump the victor of the 2020 election.

McCarthy later claimed that he did not declare President Trump the winner of the 2020 election at all, “but rather was crediting the president with Republican wins in House races.”

Though the McCarthy may have appeared to be close to President Trump through 2020 election, McCarthy loudly repudiated President Trump’s effort to withdraw troops from Syria in late 2019.

Additionally, in 2016, McCarthy privately commented that President Trump was one of two Republican politicians on the Russian payroll, and specifically said that he believes President Trump was funded by Russian President Vladimir Putin, calling into question McCarthy’s multiple public assurances that he is working on behalf of President Trump. He later claimed he made the comment in jest after it was reported by The New York Times.

New York Magazine‘s Intelligencer took McCarthy’s joke on its face, explaining then Majority Leader’s laughing: “While it is true that McCarthy and Ryan laughed during their conversation, people laugh all the time at statements they recognize as completely true.”

Many have noted that former Rep. Paul Ryan, who has reportedly privately derided President Trump, and been blamed by the President for failing to enact his agenda during the first two years of the administration, is a significant backer of McCarthy. Since leaving Congress, Ryan now works at Fox News.

In 2018, McCarthy enjoyed the vocal support of Ryan, who endorsed McCarthy as House Speaker if Republicans had held the majority. “Kevin McCarthy is my goal,” said Ryan. “I think he’s going to be the next speaker of the House,” Ryan said in 2018.

During the Trump administration, McCarthy has shown willingness to block Pelosi’s parliamentary tricks before, most notably in budget bills. But even when disagreeing with Pelosi on budget matters, some argue that McCarthy only pays lip service to their differences by highlighting the fact that he likes the bill’s bipartisan nature.

In an email to National File, McCarthy’s office explicitly denied that the Minority Leader is working with Pelosi, calling it “100 percent false,” and noting that “The rules governing January 6 are set by the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act of 1887.”

“Members and senators will be allowed to object and any attempt to interfere with those objections will be met and vigorously opposed,” McCarthy’s office added.

National File also asked McCarthy’s office if Pence has any knowledge of potential rule changes proposed by Pelosi. We did not receive a response addressing this question.

Link

I want the Reps to force a monkey wrench into the gears of the Demoncrapped establishment like they did for the past four years. I don't want them to have an EASY ANYTHING. That would be a lot better than having a REAL civil war. Screw the Commies in this forum. I'm fed up with the Demoncrapped and hope nothing but the worst for them, they will screw up the country so what, let us help them screw it up further. I'm P'sed and I don't care who knows it.

(01-03-2021 03:27 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I want the Reps to force a monkey wrench into the gears of the Demoncrapped establishment like they did for the past four years. I don't want them to have an EASY ANYTHING. That would be a lot better than having a REAL civil war. Screw the Commies in this forum. I'm fed up with the Demoncrapped and hope nothing but the worst for them, they will screw up the country so what, let us help them screw it up further. I'm P'sed and I don't care who knows it.

This is how I feel. They spied on Trump before Inauguration Day. Hillary started the Russia collusion smear campaign during the campaign. The Democrats then staged an impeachment over nonsense. Now it is payback time.

Fvck Joe Biden. He is a grifter. We have to fight the Dems each and every step of the way.

Then flip the house

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

(01-03-2021 05:16 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 03:27 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I want the Reps to force a monkey wrench into the gears of the Demoncrapped establishment like they did for the past four years. I don't want them to have an EASY ANYTHING. That would be a lot better than having a REAL civil war. Screw the Commies in this forum. I'm fed up with the Demoncrapped and hope nothing but the worst for them, they will screw up the country so what, let us help them screw it up further. I'm P'sed and I don't care who knows it.

This is how I feel. They spied on Trump before Inauguration Day. Hillary started the Russia collusion smear campaign during the campaign. The Democrats then staged an impeachment over nonsense. Now it is payback time.

Fvck Joe Biden. He is a grifter. We have to fight the Dems each and every step of the way.

I think the Senate should treat Biden's appointees exactly the same as President Trump's appointees. Delay everything. But I don't see McConnell being smart enough to realize playing nice is just encouraging them to be even worse. There need to be consequences.

(01-03-2021 06:39 PM)bullet Wrote:  I think the Senate should treat Biden's appointees exactly the same as President Trump's appointees. Delay everything. But I don't see McConnell being smart enough to realize playing nice is just encouraging them to be even worse. There need to be consequences.

McConnell is worthless.

While certainly within the rules and legitimate..it will fail as every attempt thus far has failed. If the fix is in? Its unfixable.

(01-03-2021 12:51 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  the objection to individual electors sounds like it could be the ultimate form of the fillibuster.

That's why it doesn't work this way. There's over 500 electors. The senate rules would never allow for 2 hours of debate for every one objected to. That could result in a 40+ days of discussion if they met non stop, 24x7.

Again, the whole exercise is stupid because no state has sent an official alternate slate of electors to Congress. There's nothing to debate. It's a political theater performance to endear some sycophants to the trump base for future elections...nothing more.

Elections are decided by the people, not congress or the courts. You know...that whole Constitution thing you guys seem to pretend to love. It doesn't allow the President of the Senate to just choose whomever he wants to pick the next president.