demonstrations in Washington

Every single sentence is a biased commentary masquerading as news.

I was watching this on a youtube live. Saw them with the banner that they burned...then there was this huge commotion.. the live camera guy runs over there to find a DOGPILE of people beating the piss out of someone. Police start pealing everyone off, starts spraying mace, yanks the guy out of there and immediately puts him in handcuffs.It was an Antifa guy who ran into the crowd and started stabbing people.

(12-14-2020 09:19 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I was watching this on a youtube live. Saw them with the banner that they burned...then there was this huge commotion.. the live camera guy runs over there to find a DOGPILE of people beating the piss out of someone. Police start pealing everyone off, starts spraying mace, yanks the guy out of there and immediately puts him in handcuffs.It was an Antifa guy who ran into the crowd and started stabbing people.

If it was an Antifa guy, I'm sure he was just protecting the churches that the Proud Boys were vandalizing by tearing down their BLM signs...you know...like the hero Rittenhouse.

Burning BLM signs was a poor move.

It takes away all claims that this was a peaceful rally.

(12-14-2020 09:39 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Burning BLM signs was a poor move.

It takes away all claims that this was a peaceful rally.

The time for peaceful rallies is over. Time to start giving out free "body piercings" to the Antifa crowd

Now what would the front page of CNN look like if a right winger ran into a peaceful protest and started stabbing people...

(12-14-2020 09:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:19 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I was watching this on a youtube live. Saw them with the banner that they burned...then there was this huge commotion.. the live camera guy runs over there to find a DOGPILE of people beating the piss out of someone. Police start pealing everyone off, starts spraying mace, yanks the guy out of there and immediately puts him in handcuffs.It was an Antifa guy who ran into the crowd and started stabbing people.

If it was an Antifa guy, I'm sure he was just protecting the churches that the Proud Boys were vandalizing by tearing down their BLM signs...you know...like the hero Rittenhouse.

Interesting. So you support people stabbing others if they burn a BLM banner.. Does that apply to all banners? Can people stab others if they dont like what they are doing?

(12-14-2020 09:39 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Burning BLM signs was a poor move.

It takes away all claims that this was a peaceful rally.

Honestly that's bull****. Burning BLM signs is political speech.

(12-14-2020 09:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:19 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I was watching this on a youtube live. Saw them with the banner that they burned...then there was this huge commotion.. the live camera guy runs over there to find a DOGPILE of people beating the piss out of someone. Police start pealing everyone off, starts spraying mace, yanks the guy out of there and immediately puts him in handcuffs.It was an Antifa guy who ran into the crowd and started stabbing people.

If it was an Antifa guy, I'm sure he was just protecting the churches that the Proud Boys were vandalizing by tearing down their BLM signs...you know...like the hero Rittenhouse.

Are you disingenuous or ill-informed?

Whether or not Kyle should have been there is free to debate, what's not up for debate is that he was actively being attacked by a mob at the time he decided to defend himself.

In the moments before he fired there was a gunshot near him and a man lunging at him.

(12-14-2020 09:46 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:19 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I was watching this on a youtube live. Saw them with the banner that they burned...then there was this huge commotion.. the live camera guy runs over there to find a DOGPILE of people beating the piss out of someone. Police start pealing everyone off, starts spraying mace, yanks the guy out of there and immediately puts him in handcuffs.It was an Antifa guy who ran into the crowd and started stabbing people.

If it was an Antifa guy, I'm sure he was just protecting the churches that the Proud Boys were vandalizing by tearing down their BLM signs...you know...like the hero Rittenhouse.

Interesting. So you support people stabbing others if they burn a BLM banner.. Does that apply to all banners? Can people stab others if they dont like what they are doing?

I only support stabbing trump people...haven't you heard? Duh!

(12-14-2020 09:53 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:19 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I was watching this on a youtube live. Saw them with the banner that they burned...then there was this huge commotion.. the live camera guy runs over there to find a DOGPILE of people beating the piss out of someone. Police start pealing everyone off, starts spraying mace, yanks the guy out of there and immediately puts him in handcuffs.It was an Antifa guy who ran into the crowd and started stabbing people.

If it was an Antifa guy, I'm sure he was just protecting the churches that the Proud Boys were vandalizing by tearing down their BLM signs...you know...like the hero Rittenhouse.

Are you disingenuous or ill-informed?

Whether or not Kyle should have been there is free to debate, what's not up for debate is that he was actively being attacked by a mob at the time he decided to defend himself.

In the moments before he fired there was a gunshot near him and a man lunging at him.

He's the salt of the earth.

(12-14-2020 09:39 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Burning BLM signs was a poor move.

It takes away all claims that this was a peaceful rally.

Yes and no...

Yes, it was a stupid move. We don't want to adopt the worst tactics of the left. The left is about deconstructing and destroying things. We should be about a positive message.

No, it does not take away all claims that this was a peaceful rally. If Burning a US flag is peaceful, so is this.

(12-14-2020 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  He's the salt of the earth.

I said no such things and if you're only going to try to put words in my mouth, please stop.

He was unwise to go down there to play the hero. That youthful foolishness does not make him a racist or a criminal. Defending himself from a mob attacking him also does not make him a racist or a criminal.

I don't know the kid from adam, he could be a racist *******, I don't know.

Apparently you know him well enough to make up your mind about him.

(12-14-2020 09:57 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  He's the salt of the earth.

I said no such things and if you're only going to try to put words in my mouth, please stop.

He was unwise to go down there to play the hero. That youthful foolishness does not make him a racist or a criminal. Defending himself from a mob attacking him also does not make him a racist or a criminal.

I don't know the kid from adam, he could be a racist *******, I don't know.

Apparently you know him well enough to make up your mind about him.

Was he allowed to have that weapon?

But I've not really paid much attention to any of it...I'll let the courts handle it.

I feel like the kid went out looking for trouble and then he found it. So while technically, he might have been defending himself and by law may end up exonerated, I dont have a lot of sympathy for him.

(12-14-2020 09:49 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:39 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Burning BLM signs was a poor move.

It takes away all claims that this was a peaceful rally.

Honestly that's bull****. Burning BLM signs is political speech.

Absolutely

Paper signs are not meaningful articles of 'property'. If they took them from someone else to burn them, that would be a crime, but hardly a violent one.

(12-14-2020 10:04 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:49 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:39 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Burning BLM signs was a poor move.

It takes away all claims that this was a peaceful rally.

Honestly that's bull****. Burning BLM signs is political speech.

Absolutely

Paper signs are not meaningful articles of 'property'. If they took them from someone else to burn them, that would be a crime, but hardly a violent one.

Don't know if what I heard was accurate, but they supposedly tore them either off of churches or off their property.

I'm guessing if I went to the local catholic church the month before the election and tore down their pray for abortion sign that I'd be prosecuted and that you'd agree.

I'd rather wait for law enforcement to investigate before we start saying the stabbers were clearly unprovoked Antifa folks.

(12-14-2020 09:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Was he allowed to have that weapon?

unclear... There are provisions in Wisconsin law that allow for a kid of 16 or 17 to carry a rifle.

But this is only one aspect, note, once again, I never said he was a great kid or pure. I merely said that the narrative which insists he was a bigot murderer hoping to kill brownpipo is not only not proven, it's dubious because he was *fleeing* until he ran out of space, heard a gun shot, and turned to see someone lunging at him.

Quote:But I've not really paid much attention to any of it...I'll let the courts handle it.

Saying "I'll let the courts handle it" (like you have a choice) is meaningless if all you do is try to slander the kid to whom "you've not really paid a lot of attention".

(12-14-2020 10:00 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I feel like the kid went out looking for trouble and then he found it. So while technically, he might have been defending himself and by law may end up exonerated, I dont have a lot of sympathy for him.

This is a pretty fair assessment.

(12-14-2020 10:08 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 09:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Was he allowed to have that weapon?

unclear... There are provisions in Wisconsin law that allow for a kid of 16 or 17 to carry a rifle.

But this is only one aspect, note, once again, I never said he was a great kid or pure. I merely said that the narrative which insists he was a bigot murderer hoping to kill brownpipo is not only not proven, it's dubious because he was *fleeing* until he ran out of space, heard a gun shot, and turned to see someone lunging at him.

Quote:But I've not really paid much attention to any of it...I'll let the courts handle it.

Saying "I'll let the courts handle it" (like you have a choice) is meaningless if all you do is try to slander the kid to whom "you've not really paid a lot of attention".

Dude, nowhere did I slander the kid. From what I've read, the right wing is claiming the kid was protecting businesses...that's all I was referring to...if I misread that claim, I apologize.