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RE: Rating the AAC in men's basketball
(12-24-2020 11:41 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 10:24 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  
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(12-24-2020 04:22 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  It would seem that he gets paid to promote the “THE SKY IS FALLING AND UCONN NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WITH (Insert random school here)”, disregarding all logic and reason.

What about considering replacing a nationally recognized basketball brand disregards logic and reason? Adding a 12th basketball school seems like a no brainer to me.

Expansion isn't a magic cure, and Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple and Wichita all need to get back on track first and foremost, but adding a basketball school that could improve the conference metrics, compete for titles and earn NCAAT credits is a low risk move that would be a bump in the right direction.

Although I do agree that SMU and UCF are probably top 50 programs. KenPom is pretty much meaningless at this point.

It would possibly cut off the all sports/football add. I also contend it is unnecessary, it might help depending on who, but eleven works well, the more important push with Tulane and ECU setting a decent floor is the other programs raising the ceiling. We need a five or six bid type year and that will only be possible with the top teams returning to form. Until then it will be a constant three and occasionally four bid league short of its potential.
What's unnecessary about improving the basketball side of the conference? I do not understand this at all.

Because expansion doesn't equal automatic improvement, adding can be subtraction. The schools in the conference have a historical record of success. Even the handful of blue bloods take dips, currently a couple teams are down. Looking it over the other teams have stepped up. It seems unlikely they will all be down at once or once down that they will not return to their normal level. Traditionally those teams have seen multiple years of success and decades of those years added up through their history.

Meanwhile the importance of football means we will likely add one football team, perhaps one football only or an unforeseen all sports school may earn an invite. However it works out just adding a school now will only complicate it all. It also could necessitate us adding another Olympic member if we do add an all sports for the football add and already have an Olympic sports school.

Explain to me how adding a VCU, a perennial tournament team, would be a subtraction. No one is calling to gamble on some project program, we're talking about adding a basketball school who's impact can be measured and who will improve the conference from day one. There is no downside.

We're not talking about expansion for the sake of expansion; we're talking about adding a proven program with a solid track record, a great fan base, an institutional profile in line with the rest of the league.

No one out west is coming for all sports, and there are no viable all sports candidates within the existing footprint. Add VCU before the Big East decides to go to 14 and swallow up the last non power hoops programs on this side of the country.
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RE: Rating the AAC in men's basketball
(12-24-2020 09:57 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
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(12-24-2020 05:18 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  jed...

Trolling will result in an immediate 3 day ban

Going forward you are warned. This goes for everyone. This board has digressed into nothing but personal attacks, name calling, and trolling.

That ends now.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-839059.html

Jed, stating opinions or criticisms especially ones largely based in facts are not trolling. Pretending to be a fan of another team while showing a clear bias is.

One won't get you much as several frustrated posters here at the AAC board will tell you.
The other gets you stuck on the realignment board hoping some one will eventually let you back as one of our recent returnees can assure you.

You know early in the season most computers or other metrics aren't viable measures to judge teams, particularly in an ooc shortened season. You deserved the criticism especially with the way you choose when to pick and ignore various metrics as you did with the Massey earlier when it started to not support your the AAC sky is falling narrative.

He told on me like a 5 year old because I called him weird. Sorry, I'm not trolling when I say that. The guy embarrasses Temple by posting bull**** on here and pretending to be a Temple fan. No one has any idea who he is. He just popped out of nowhere with these ridiculous threads.
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RE: Rating the AAC in men's basketball
(12-24-2020 06:27 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 06:15 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 05:48 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 05:18 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  jed...

Trolling will result in an immediate 3 day ban

Going forward you are warned. This goes for everyone. This board has digressed into nothing but personal attacks, name calling, and trolling.

That ends now.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-839059.html
Uh oh....

He, like you, knew the rules, broke them, and it has been reported.

Trolling and ad hominem attacks are rightly frowned upon by the mods.

Wow, serious butthurt alert!
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RE: Rating the AAC in men's basketball
(12-25-2020 12:05 AM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 11:41 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 10:24 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 10:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 08:27 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  What about considering replacing a nationally recognized basketball brand disregards logic and reason? Adding a 12th basketball school seems like a no brainer to me.

Expansion isn't a magic cure, and Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple and Wichita all need to get back on track first and foremost, but adding a basketball school that could improve the conference metrics, compete for titles and earn NCAAT credits is a low risk move that would be a bump in the right direction.

Although I do agree that SMU and UCF are probably top 50 programs. KenPom is pretty much meaningless at this point.

It would possibly cut off the all sports/football add. I also contend it is unnecessary, it might help depending on who, but eleven works well, the more important push with Tulane and ECU setting a decent floor is the other programs raising the ceiling. We need a five or six bid type year and that will only be possible with the top teams returning to form. Until then it will be a constant three and occasionally four bid league short of its potential.
What's unnecessary about improving the basketball side of the conference? I do not understand this at all.

Because expansion doesn't equal automatic improvement, adding can be subtraction. The schools in the conference have a historical record of success. Even the handful of blue bloods take dips, currently a couple teams are down. Looking it over the other teams have stepped up. It seems unlikely they will all be down at once or once down that they will not return to their normal level. Traditionally those teams have seen multiple years of success and decades of those years added up through their history.

Meanwhile the importance of football means we will likely add one football team, perhaps one football only or an unforeseen all sports school may earn an invite. However it works out just adding a school now will only complicate it all. It also could necessitate us adding another Olympic member if we do add an all sports for the football add and already have an Olympic sports school.

Explain to me how adding a VCU, a perennial tournament team, would be a subtraction. No one is calling to gamble on some project program, we're talking about adding a basketball school who's impact can be measured and who will improve the conference from day one. There is no downside.

We're not talking about expansion for the sake of expansion; we're talking about adding a proven program with a solid track record, a great fan base, an institutional profile in line with the rest of the league.

No one out west is coming for all sports, and there are no viable all sports candidates within the existing footprint. Add VCU before the Big East decides to go to 14 and swallow up the last non power hoops programs on this side of the country.

Yes you are talking about expansion for expansion's sake, we lost UConn so we need to replace them is expansion's just for expansion. There is no reason to have 12 teams in basketball. Nor is adding any team besides Gonzaga going to elevate this conference, how does adding a program just like the other programs not currently performing help?

Your big east threat doesn't exist. If they take VCU we have Dayton (who they are more likely to consider) or St. Louis who actually makes the most sense for the Big else. Or we stay at eleven continue the full round robin set up and get our act together so we don't have another school we have to split the money with.

Your whole demand is about the now and your reason for doing it now, is that there is nothing you like now, out there.

No thanks, there is no reason to hurry this, football is driving this bus anyway so until that is decided there will be no movement on anything elss.
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(12-25-2020 01:45 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(12-25-2020 12:05 AM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 11:41 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 10:24 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 10:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  It would possibly cut off the all sports/football add. I also contend it is unnecessary, it might help depending on who, but eleven works well, the more important push with Tulane and ECU setting a decent floor is the other programs raising the ceiling. We need a five or six bid type year and that will only be possible with the top teams returning to form. Until then it will be a constant three and occasionally four bid league short of its potential.
What's unnecessary about improving the basketball side of the conference? I do not understand this at all.

Because expansion doesn't equal automatic improvement, adding can be subtraction. The schools in the conference have a historical record of success. Even the handful of blue bloods take dips, currently a couple teams are down. Looking it over the other teams have stepped up. It seems unlikely they will all be down at once or once down that they will not return to their normal level. Traditionally those teams have seen multiple years of success and decades of those years added up through their history.

Meanwhile the importance of football means we will likely add one football team, perhaps one football only or an unforeseen all sports school may earn an invite. However it works out just adding a school now will only complicate it all. It also could necessitate us adding another Olympic member if we do add an all sports for the football add and already have an Olympic sports school.

Explain to me how adding a VCU, a perennial tournament team, would be a subtraction. No one is calling to gamble on some project program, we're talking about adding a basketball school who's impact can be measured and who will improve the conference from day one. There is no downside.

We're not talking about expansion for the sake of expansion; we're talking about adding a proven program with a solid track record, a great fan base, an institutional profile in line with the rest of the league.

No one out west is coming for all sports, and there are no viable all sports candidates within the existing footprint. Add VCU before the Big East decides to go to 14 and swallow up the last non power hoops programs on this side of the country.

Yes you are talking about expansion for expansion's sake, we lost UConn so we need to replace them is expansion's just for expansion. There is no reason to have 12 teams in basketball. Nor is adding any team besides Gonzaga going to elevate this conference, how does adding a program just like the other programs not currently performing help?

Your big east threat doesn't exist. If they take VCU we have Dayton (who they are more likely to consider) or St. Louis who actually makes the most sense for the Big else. Or we stay at eleven continue the full round robin set up and get our act together so we don't have another school we have to split the money with.

Your whole demand is about the now and your reason for doing it now, is that there is nothing you like now, out there.

No thanks, there is no reason to hurry this, football is driving this bus anyway so until that is decided there will be no movement on anything elss.

No. Replacing UConn with a great basketball school is expansion for the sake of replacing UConn, whose departure damaged the basketball side of the conference.

VCU improves basketball. It's that simple. Their addition would have no impact on the football side.
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(12-25-2020 02:12 AM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(12-25-2020 01:45 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(12-25-2020 12:05 AM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 11:41 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 10:24 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  What's unnecessary about improving the basketball side of the conference? I do not understand this at all.

Because expansion doesn't equal automatic improvement, adding can be subtraction. The schools in the conference have a historical record of success. Even the handful of blue bloods take dips, currently a couple teams are down. Looking it over the other teams have stepped up. It seems unlikely they will all be down at once or once down that they will not return to their normal level. Traditionally those teams have seen multiple years of success and decades of those years added up through their history.

Meanwhile the importance of football means we will likely add one football team, perhaps one football only or an unforeseen all sports school may earn an invite. However it works out just adding a school now will only complicate it all. It also could necessitate us adding another Olympic member if we do add an all sports for the football add and already have an Olympic sports school.

Explain to me how adding a VCU, a perennial tournament team, would be a subtraction. No one is calling to gamble on some project program, we're talking about adding a basketball school who's impact can be measured and who will improve the conference from day one. There is no downside.

We're not talking about expansion for the sake of expansion; we're talking about adding a proven program with a solid track record, a great fan base, an institutional profile in line with the rest of the league.

No one out west is coming for all sports, and there are no viable all sports candidates within the existing footprint. Add VCU before the Big East decides to go to 14 and swallow up the last non power hoops programs on this side of the country.

Yes you are talking about expansion for expansion's sake, we lost UConn so we need to replace them is expansion's just for expansion. There is no reason to have 12 teams in basketball. Nor is adding any team besides Gonzaga going to elevate this conference, how does adding a program just like the other programs not currently performing help?

Your big east threat doesn't exist. If they take VCU we have Dayton (who they are more likely to consider) or St. Louis who actually makes the most sense for the Big else. Or we stay at eleven continue the full round robin set up and get our act together so we don't have another school we have to split the money with.

Your whole demand is about the now and your reason for doing it now, is that there is nothing you like now, out there.

No thanks, there is no reason to hurry this, football is driving this bus anyway so until that is decided there will be no movement on anything elss.

No. Replacing UConn with a great basketball school is expansion for the sake of replacing UConn, whose departure damaged the basketball side of the conference.

VCU improves basketball. It's that simple. Their addition would have no impact on the football side.
Read pesik’s response. Weighing our options is the most wise thing we can do right now
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(12-24-2020 07:45 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  So you seriously believe 90+ schools in the country are better than UCF right now?

I hate to admit it, but UCF looks like a top-40 team to me, probably a bit higher.

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(12-25-2020 08:59 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(12-25-2020 02:12 AM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(12-25-2020 01:45 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(12-25-2020 12:05 AM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 11:41 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Because expansion doesn't equal automatic improvement, adding can be subtraction. The schools in the conference have a historical record of success. Even the handful of blue bloods take dips, currently a couple teams are down. Looking it over the other teams have stepped up. It seems unlikely they will all be down at once or once down that they will not return to their normal level. Traditionally those teams have seen multiple years of success and decades of those years added up through their history.

Meanwhile the importance of football means we will likely add one football team, perhaps one football only or an unforeseen all sports school may earn an invite. However it works out just adding a school now will only complicate it all. It also could necessitate us adding another Olympic member if we do add an all sports for the football add and already have an Olympic sports school.

Explain to me how adding a VCU, a perennial tournament team, would be a subtraction. No one is calling to gamble on some project program, we're talking about adding a basketball school who's impact can be measured and who will improve the conference from day one. There is no downside.

We're not talking about expansion for the sake of expansion; we're talking about adding a proven program with a solid track record, a great fan base, an institutional profile in line with the rest of the league.

No one out west is coming for all sports, and there are no viable all sports candidates within the existing footprint. Add VCU before the Big East decides to go to 14 and swallow up the last non power hoops programs on this side of the country.

Yes you are talking about expansion for expansion's sake, we lost UConn so we need to replace them is expansion's just for expansion. There is no reason to have 12 teams in basketball. Nor is adding any team besides Gonzaga going to elevate this conference, how does adding a program just like the other programs not currently performing help?

Your big east threat doesn't exist. If they take VCU we have Dayton (who they are more likely to consider) or St. Louis who actually makes the most sense for the Big else. Or we stay at eleven continue the full round robin set up and get our act together so we don't have another school we have to split the money with.

Your whole demand is about the now and your reason for doing it now, is that there is nothing you like now, out there.

No thanks, there is no reason to hurry this, football is driving this bus anyway so until that is decided there will be no movement on anything elss.

No. Replacing UConn with a great basketball school is expansion for the sake of replacing UConn, whose departure damaged the basketball side of the conference.

VCU improves basketball. It's that simple. Their addition would have no impact on the football side.
Read pesik’s response. Weighing our options is the most wise thing we can do right now

Perhaps.

However, the pace of developments may be starting to speed up, and none of us are privy to the kinds of contacts that Aresco may be receiving since the news broke about Boise's serious interest in the AAC.

Any basketball school that would be interested in joining the conference should be getting in contact with Aresco right about now, and there's a fair chance that at least one basketball school has done so, already.

Because Aresco tends to play his cards so close to the vest, we don't generally expect to learn of such developments until the deal is done. This is what happened when Wichita State's move was announced - - it was completely unexpected.

In this case, "weighing the options" might equate to having current conversations with and deliberations about specific basketball schools.
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UCF

everybody else except Memphis



Memphis
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(12-26-2020 01:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  UH
UCF

everybody else except Memphis



Memphis

SMU is undefeated and right up there with us. As much as people want to hype us up, we are 3-2 and got plowed by Michigan and lost today. Have to give credit where it's due to SMU. Not sure I would pick us to beat them if we played today
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Rating the AAC in men's basketball
(12-26-2020 09:25 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 01:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  UH
UCF

everybody else except Memphis



Memphis

SMU is undefeated and right up there with us. As much as people want to hype us up, we are 3-2 and got plowed by Michigan and lost today. Have to give credit where it's due to SMU. Not sure I would pick us to beat them if we played today


We haven’t played anybody, sorry ECU
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1. UH

2. SMU
3. UCF

4. WSU
5. Tulsa
6. USF
7. ECU
8. Memphis
9. Cincy
10. Tulane
11. Temple (not much info to go on)
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(12-10-2020 07:25 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(12-10-2020 07:05 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  If ECU doesn't beat North Florida, it should be kicked out of the league by 8:30 tomorrow morning. It's embarrassing what a horrendous OOC schedule you guys have had over the last number of years and then unceremoniously lose to the flotsam and jetsam of FCS or Division II or whatever else those kinds of schools are called these days.

Believe me. Nothing would make me happier than to beat you guys after going 0-5 OOC. Sadly, it is not to be.

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(12-26-2020 09:31 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 09:25 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 01:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  UH
UCF

everybody else except Memphis



Memphis

SMU is undefeated and right up there with us. As much as people want to hype us up, we are 3-2 and got plowed by Michigan and lost today. Have to give credit where it's due to SMU. Not sure I would pick us to beat them if we played today


We haven’t played anybody, sorry ECU

Dayton is a good team. Also I think the jury is still absolutely out on ECU. Am I sure we're an NCAA/NIT level team? Absolutely not. But the Charlotte and UNCW wins are looking relatively solid. Only loss is @SMU, I think you guys are legit.

If we keep this improved shooting going from behind the arc there is no reason we can't finish in the top 5 of this league if we catch some breaks and win some of the close games.
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(12-26-2020 10:24 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  1. UH

2. SMU
3. UCF

4. WSU
5. Tulsa
6. USF
7. ECU
8. Memphis
9. Cincy
10. Tulane
11. Temple (not much info to go on)

Temple is rebuilding, and got off to a very late start. They played better than expected vs. NJIT but struggled mightily @ Houston. Part of the problem in the Houston game was that, due to key departures and injuries, Temple has started out the season with two freshmen in the back court.

However, the team's newest addition - Brendan Barry (Grad. Tr. Guard, a 3 point specialist) has the experience needed to help steady the back court, and Khalif Battle (So. Tr. G; hamstring injury), a 4 star recruit from Baylor is soon expected to enhance the back court.

Two Owls (starter Moorman (Sr. PF) and Jourdain (Fr. PF)) surpassed expectations in the first two games, while others (starters Perry (Sr. F; 28 mpg), Dunn (Fr G; 33.5 mpg), & Williams (Fr G; 32.5 mpg)) played brilliantly in game 1, but were much less effective vs. Houston.

The team's most prolific scorer on a per-shot (1.78 pts per FGA) and per-minute (.615 ppm = 24.8 pts per 40 minutes) basis (Forrester, a starter) has only played 13 mpg, due to picking up 4 PFs in each of his first two games. The team might become more competitive if he can play 20-25+ mpg going forward.

Three players (Parks, Strickland, & Ademokoya, averaging ~ 2 ppg) have gotten off to a quiet start. Parks, a solid rebounder and interior defender had been expected to play an important role as a backup PF/C, but has had foul trouble and has only played 8 mpg, to date. Strickland had shoulder surgery in the Fall and may not be 100%. The team is going to need at least one or two of these players to become more effective contributors.

The other two Temple players (White (Fr. G) and Tolbert (Jr. PF)) have had injuries and may not see action until mid-season.
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(12-26-2020 09:31 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 09:25 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 01:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  UH
UCF

everybody else except Memphis



Memphis

SMU is undefeated and right up there with us. As much as people want to hype us up, we are 3-2 and got plowed by Michigan and lost today. Have to give credit where it's due to SMU. Not sure I would pick us to beat them if we played today


We haven’t played anybody, sorry ECU

If Dayton is a nobody, I'm ecstatic for ECU to be a nobody.
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(12-27-2020 07:54 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(12-10-2020 07:25 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(12-10-2020 07:05 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  If ECU doesn't beat North Florida, it should be kicked out of the league by 8:30 tomorrow morning. It's embarrassing what a horrendous OOC schedule you guys have had over the last number of years and then unceremoniously lose to the flotsam and jetsam of FCS or Division II or whatever else those kinds of schools are called these days.

Believe me. Nothing would make me happier than to beat you guys after going 0-5 OOC. Sadly, it is not to be.

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(12-26-2020 09:31 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 09:25 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 01:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  UH
UCF

everybody else except Memphis



Memphis

SMU is undefeated and right up there with us. As much as people want to hype us up, we are 3-2 and got plowed by Michigan and lost today. Have to give credit where it's due to SMU. Not sure I would pick us to beat them if we played today


We haven’t played anybody, sorry ECU

Dayton is a good team. Also I think the jury is still absolutely out on ECU. Am I sure we're an NCAA/NIT level team? Absolutely not. But the Charlotte and UNCW wins are looking relatively solid. Only loss is @SMU, I think you guys are legit.

If we keep this improved shooting going from behind the arc there is no reason we can't finish in the top 5 of this league if we catch some breaks and win some of the close games.

Wichita State should be the game that tells us whether ECU will be able to compete for the 4-6 spots. Beat all the teams we should've beat. Most teams are going to lose to SMU. See what they can do in a 50-50 game.
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(12-27-2020 07:26 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(12-27-2020 07:54 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  
(12-10-2020 07:25 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(12-10-2020 07:05 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  If ECU doesn't beat North Florida, it should be kicked out of the league by 8:30 tomorrow morning. It's embarrassing what a horrendous OOC schedule you guys have had over the last number of years and then unceremoniously lose to the flotsam and jetsam of FCS or Division II or whatever else those kinds of schools are called these days.

Believe me. Nothing would make me happier than to beat you guys after going 0-5 OOC. Sadly, it is not to be.

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(12-26-2020 09:31 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 09:25 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  
(12-26-2020 01:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  UH
UCF

everybody else except Memphis



Memphis

SMU is undefeated and right up there with us. As much as people want to hype us up, we are 3-2 and got plowed by Michigan and lost today. Have to give credit where it's due to SMU. Not sure I would pick us to beat them if we played today


We haven’t played anybody, sorry ECU

Dayton is a good team. Also I think the jury is still absolutely out on ECU. Am I sure we're an NCAA/NIT level team? Absolutely not. But the Charlotte and UNCW wins are looking relatively solid. Only loss is @SMU, I think you guys are legit.

If we keep this improved shooting going from behind the arc there is no reason we can't finish in the top 5 of this league if we catch some breaks and win some of the close games.

Wichita State should be the game that tells us whether ECU will be able to compete for the 4-6 spots. Beat all the teams we should've beat. Most teams are going to lose to SMU. See what they can do in a 50-50 game.

FWIW, ESPN's BPI gives WSU a 60.9% chance to win this game at home but gives ECU a 62.5% chance to win the game in Greenville later in the year.
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RE: Rating the AAC in men's basketball
Gardner and Newton haven't even played close to the level they already have proven they can and have played in conference play last year and we are still winning. There is another gear to our team still out there to shift that should get going with both of them. The shooting around them appears to be much improved and more inline with what was expected last year given their three point shooting numbers in JUCO's etc. That changes everything if it continues to hold up because we were 347th last year, currently 86th but even if we are average by the end of the year that's big.

Also the player that unlocks everything is Baruiti. He's went from a 5 PER to a 21 PER so far this year and most of what he is doing seems sustainable. Nothing in his profile he's been doing is that crazy. He's shooting 40% from three but he shot 39% in JUCO's and 40% in high school seasons before last seasons disaster. Last year's 18% seems more like the fluke in totality. He's playing totally as a PF/C like he played in JUCO's hes really dangerous because he's so athletic and he's gets out of Gardner's way down low and spaces. He seems way more comfortable there too, no more SF.

The only question really becomes is Dooley going to get out his own way and actually start Baruiti at Center and play him 30 minutes a game. It's a joke he's not already playing him 30+ a game when he's clearly our best center and been in the crunch time lineup at Center since the 1st game any time things get hairy. No room to screw around in conference and that's another gear extra we are pissing away 8 minutes of a guy killing it. The guys is 6-7, 230, he's not even small by AAC standards and he's probably one of the most athletic guys at that size in the league.

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If he keeps playing him 23 minutes a game we probably won't do much. That's the leverage point to max what we got. He makes the team way more dangerous than the 7 footers.
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A wee bit of good news:

SMU has moved up to #38 in the Massey Composite.

There are still just 6 AAC teams in the top 100 of the Massey Composite, but USF and ECU are #104 and #108 respectively.

The American (winning percentage: a solid 73%) has settled into its familiar #7 conference ranking.

Other than Houston, AAC men's basketball isn't exactly setting the world on fire, but the conference will gladly take 7th place to help maintain its "Major 7" status.
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(12-29-2020 04:44 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  .

A wee bit of good news:

SMU has moved up to #38 in the Massey Composite.

There are still just 6 AAC teams in the top 100 of the Massey Composite, but USF and ECU are #104 and #108 respectively.

The American (winning percentage: a solid 73%) has settled into its familiar #7 conference ranking.

Other than Houston, AAC men's basketball isn't exactly setting the world on fire, but the conference will gladly take 7th place to help maintain its "Major 7" status.

ECU 107 and USF 112 now. Also 7 in top 100 by my count. Houston, SMU, UCF, Wichita, Tulsa, Memphis, Cincy
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