(11-19-2020 03:54 PM)YouPeople Wrote: (11-19-2020 03:07 PM)schmolik Wrote: (11-19-2020 01:46 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (11-18-2020 07:02 PM)domer1978 Wrote: Yeah one thing in that post is right we want NOTHING to do with WVU.
The other stuff seems incredibly pie in the sky. Texas and the ACC? No. Nevemind what Deloss Dodds said that ain't happening.
Texas won't make the first move, but IF OU/OSU leave the Big XII (stay with the premise!), the Longhorns' options then become:
1. follow TAMU and OU to the SEC (PR nightmare)
2. joint Big Ten or Pac-12 (besides killing recruiting, those are Fox properties)
3. stay in a weak 8-team Big XII (risk losing "power" status)
4. football independent w/ ACC scheduling agreement (like ND)
If you were running Texas, which would YOU choose?
I would think the SEC would check in to see if Texas wants in before inviting Oklahoma State along with Oklahoma. The only way I see Oklahoma State going in with Oklahoma is if it is clear Texas won't go to the SEC or if it is part of a multiple team invitation where Texas demands Texas Tech and the SEC accepts (which I think could happen). I doubt the SEC will invite Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and then go to Texas and ask them if they want in, they will invite Oklahoma and ask then ask Texas if they want in. If I'm the SEC, I want the two big guns without the baggage. If neither is willing to come without their baggage (Oklahoma State, Texas Tech), I'd have to think about it.
I don't see how FOX is a negative. Big Ten schools don't seem to be hurting right now.
Texas has a standing invite to join the SEC whenever they want. All they have to do is call. Texas has no interest because a) the academics in the SEC are beneath them b) they aren't following anyone....much less Aggie and OU.
Okie State will go where Oklahoma goes thanks to state politics. Nobody gets OU without also getting the Pokes. In this case, that is fine because the SEC is never going to get Texas. Ever.
Find Texas on the List Below:
Award Summary: Top 50 Institutions FY 2020
Managing Organization: NSF
Funding Organization: NSF
Institution Type: All Groups
Institution (50 max) State or Country Total Research Support Education & Human Resources Major Research Equipment
(Drill to Awards) Amt $k Cnt Amt $k Cnt Amt $k Cnt Amt $k Cnt
Leidos Maryland $231,869 1 $183,593 1 $0 0 $48,276 0
U of Ill Urbana-Champaign Illinois $141,492 158 $135,139 151 $6,353 7 $0 0
UCAR Colorado $138,351 25 $137,580 25 $771 0 $0 0
AURA District of Columbia $127,312 4 $80,963 4 $0 0 $46,350 0
Regents U of Michigan Michigan $120,055 217 $102,987 208 $17,068 9 $0 0
Woods Hole Ocean Inst Massachusetts $117,836 57 $117,836 57 $0 0 $0 0
Cornell University New York $113,315 142 $92,480 138 $1,209 4 $19,626 0
Columbia University New York $111,005 118 $96,657 117 $975 1 $13,374 0
U of Washington Washington $110,898 189 $99,882 176 $11,016 13 $0 0
U of Cal Berkeley California $106,784 132 $69,222 123 $37,562 9 $0 0
U of Colorado Boulder Colorado $106,761 175 $94,560 159 $12,201 16 $0 0
U of Texas Austin Texas $105,535 159 $101,285 151 $4,250 8 $0 0
AUI District of Columbia $102,795 4 $101,608 1 $1,187 3 $0 0
U of Wisconsin Madison Wisconsin $100,786 142 $92,135 131 $8,651 11 $0 0
MIT Massachusetts $95,051 131 $88,623 128 $6,429 3 $0 0
Stanford University California $93,779 102 $86,875 97 $6,904 5 $0 0
Michigan State University Michigan $83,885 112 $78,122 98 $5,763 14 $0 0
PA St U University Park Pennsylvania $81,342 207 $71,905 195 $9,438 12 $0 0
California Inst of Tech California $81,191 47 $81,034 46 $157 1 $0 0
Purdue University Indiana $79,096 143 $74,116 131 $4,979 12 $0 0
U of Minnesota-Twin Cities Minnesota $74,720 121 $73,749 116 $971 5 $0 0
Oregon State University Oregon $72,857 114 $45,750 107 $2,107 6 $25,000 1
University of Chicago Illinois $72,194 103 $64,879 96 $7,315 7 $0 0
U of Cal Los Angeles California $70,333 140 $68,454 135 $1,880 5 $0 0
U of Cal San Diego California $70,073 136 $61,837 126 $8,236 10 $0 0
Georgia Tech Research Corp Georgia $68,498 186 $61,835 178 $6,662 8 $0 0
U of MD, College Park Maryland $67,563 123 $61,627 118 $5,936 5 $0 0
Ohio State University Ohio $67,451 127 $62,890 121 $4,560 6 $0 0
U of Cal Santa Barbara California $66,641 96 $61,212 95 $5,429 1 $0 0
Battelle Memorial Inst Ohio $65,462 3 $65,462 3 $0 0 $0 0
Harvard University Massachusetts $64,057 87 $44,353 83 $19,705 4 $0 0
Princeton University New Jersey $64,010 87 $58,099 86 $5,911 1 $0 0
Arizona State University Arizona $63,196 146 $58,675 136 $4,521 10 $0 0
Carnegie Mellon University Pennsylvania $60,914 132 $56,505 121 $4,409 11 $0 0
Florida State University Florida $60,169 52 $56,242 49 $3,928 3 $0 0
Department of Defense California $58,325 0 $58,325 0 $0 0 $0 0
U of Arizona Arizona $56,430 103 $47,208 93 $9,222 10 $0 0
U of Cal Irvine California $56,377 97 $49,126 90 $7,252 7 $0 0
Indiana University Indiana $54,660 74 $49,845 66 $4,815 8 $0 0
VA Polytechnic Inst & St U Virginia $53,915 99 $49,485 95 $4,430 4 $0 0
North Carolina State U North Carolina $52,640 120 $41,132 107 $11,508 13 $0 0
U of Alaska Fairbanks Alaska $52,457 59 $50,595 55 $1,863 4 $0 0
Northwestern University Illinois $51,682 108 $45,682 103 $6,001 5 $0 0
University of Florida Florida $49,447 118 $44,250 113 $5,198 5 $0 0
U of Pennsylvania Pennsylvania $48,280 69 $41,727 64 $6,553 5 $0 0
Texas A&M Research Fdn Texas $48,000 0 $48,000 0 $0 0 $0 0
Rutgers Univ New Brunswick New Jersey $46,639 119 $39,453 109 $7,186 10 $0 0
U of NC Chapel Hill North Carolina $45,297 63 $40,614 57 $4,683 6 $0 0
U of Cal SD Scripps Inst California $45,056 57 $45,056 57 $0 0 $0 0
U of Cal Davis California $44,703 105 $41,751 97 $2,952 8 $0 0
Reimbursables Excluded. Total includes Academic Research Infrastructure prior to 1998.
Texas has few academic peers - Cal, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Washington. The size of the University plays a role in peerage. All of the ACC schools are half the size of the Big 10 or Pac 12 research giants. That means they are half the size of Texas.
If Texas will tolerate the Undergraduate programs at TT, Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and West Va., then Ole Miss, MSU, and Arkansas will not phase them a bit.