(11-15-2020 01:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 11:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 10:43 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Thoughts from our conservative contributors?

Quote from POTUS: Progress!

Article referenced by him (and basically the quote he retweeted): The Virginian-Pilot reported Friday that business professor and dean Paul Ewell wrote that anyone who chose Biden for president is “ignorant, anti-American and anti-Christian.”

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/stat...40353?s=21

I don’t think most of them are anti-Christian or anti-American.

I do think a lot of the reasons I hear for voting pro-Biden/anti-Trump are pretty ignorant. That ignorance was fanned by the intentional lies and fabrications of the media. One good example of ignorance is the fracking issue.

I outlined my reasons for voting for Trump. Nothing has changed, except that now the Senate may prove to be a firewall against the Blue Ripple.

What do you think about POTUS and conservatives saying such things?

Funny, I see one conservative saying that. Again, kind of the 'large as a barn brushstrokes' getting in the way of your commentary?

(11-15-2020 02:56 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 02:15 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 01:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 11:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 10:43 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Thoughts from our conservative contributors?

Quote from POTUS: Progress!

Article referenced by him (and basically the quote he retweeted): The Virginian-Pilot reported Friday that business professor and dean Paul Ewell wrote that anyone who chose Biden for president is “ignorant, anti-American and anti-Christian.”

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/stat...40353?s=21

I don’t think most of them are anti-Christian or anti-American.

I do think a lot of the reasons I hear for voting pro-Biden/anti-Trump are pretty ignorant. That ignorance was fanned by the intentional lies and fabrications of the media. One good example of ignorance is the fracking issue.

I outlined my reasons for voting for Trump. Nothing has changed, except that now the Senate may prove to be a firewall against the Blue Ripple.

What do you think about POTUS and conservatives saying such things?

I'll bite:
1. I believe that demonizing people simply because they voted for the "wrong" candidate is ignorant, anti-American, and anti- most faiths.

2. I would wager my life's savings that more leftists would disagree with #1 than would conservatives.

Your turn!

I think there's a fine line to tight rope. I'd agree with 1, with a slight caveat being that there certainly are candidates that would buck that trend - I don't think Trump or Biden (or really any politician in American politics I'm currently aware of) falls into that category.

There is a place for actual honesty - both candidates definitely have supporters who truly have abhorrent views/opinions - and a honest discussion about what drives those supporters to support them can have value. Especially with respect to how candidates embrace or distance themselves from said supporters, as it can embolden those characters or move to relegate them from the picture.

To #2, I think the left is typically more outspoken publicly, which could weight your thoughts. I typically feel that both sides have a similar number of people who hold bad ideas.

How many Republican ex-first ladies say that?

(11-15-2020 04:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 01:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 11:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 10:43 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Thoughts from our conservative contributors?

Quote from POTUS: Progress!

Article referenced by him (and basically the quote he retweeted): The Virginian-Pilot reported Friday that business professor and dean Paul Ewell wrote that anyone who chose Biden for president is “ignorant, anti-American and anti-Christian.”

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/stat...40353?s=21

I don’t think most of them are anti-Christian or anti-American.

I do think a lot of the reasons I hear for voting pro-Biden/anti-Trump are pretty ignorant. That ignorance was fanned by the intentional lies and fabrications of the media. One good example of ignorance is the fracking issue.

I outlined my reasons for voting for Trump. Nothing has changed, except that now the Senate may prove to be a firewall against the Blue Ripple.

What do you think about POTUS and conservatives saying such things?

Funny, I see one conservative saying that. Again, kind of the 'large as a barn brushstrokes' getting in the way of your commentary?

I chuckled a bit to your description of POTUS as just "one conservative." I see this very similar to Clinton and the deplorable comment, but I guess Clinton was just one liberal...

(11-15-2020 04:36 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 04:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 01:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 11:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 10:43 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Thoughts from our conservative contributors?

Quote from POTUS: Progress!

Article referenced by him (and basically the quote he retweeted): The Virginian-Pilot reported Friday that business professor and dean Paul Ewell wrote that anyone who chose Biden for president is “ignorant, anti-American and anti-Christian.”

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/stat...40353?s=21

I don’t think most of them are anti-Christian or anti-American.

I do think a lot of the reasons I hear for voting pro-Biden/anti-Trump are pretty ignorant. That ignorance was fanned by the intentional lies and fabrications of the media. One good example of ignorance is the fracking issue.

I outlined my reasons for voting for Trump. Nothing has changed, except that now the Senate may prove to be a firewall against the Blue Ripple.

What do you think about POTUS and conservatives saying such things?

Funny, I see one conservative saying that. Again, kind of the 'large as a barn brushstrokes' getting in the way of your commentary?

I chuckled a bit to your description of POTUS as just "one conservative." I see this very similar to Clinton and the deplorable comment, but I guess Clinton was just one liberal...

Funny, I saw the professor 'saying it'. Words lad, words.

If you mean "saying and retweeting", 'say' that.

Question for lad: who originated that statement? Do you understand your question portion bolded above? What dance do you want us to see you dancing now?

Question 2 for lad: who originated the 'deplorables' comment?

Question 3 for lad: was Michelle Obama's tweet a retweet?

Think about the differences, then think about what you asked in bold above.

i guess now I am charged not with answering what you ask, but what You intend to ask. Sounds like a fun piece of wasted time.

(11-15-2020 04:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 04:36 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 04:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 01:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 11:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I don’t think most of them are anti-Christian or anti-American.

I do think a lot of the reasons I hear for voting pro-Biden/anti-Trump are pretty ignorant. That ignorance was fanned by the intentional lies and fabrications of the media. One good example of ignorance is the fracking issue.

I outlined my reasons for voting for Trump. Nothing has changed, except that now the Senate may prove to be a firewall against the Blue Ripple.

What do you think about POTUS and conservatives saying such things?

Funny, I see one conservative saying that. Again, kind of the 'large as a barn brushstrokes' getting in the way of your commentary?

I chuckled a bit to your description of POTUS as just "one conservative." I see this very similar to Clinton and the deplorable comment, but I guess Clinton was just one liberal...

Funny, I saw the professor 'saying it'. Words lad, words.

If you mean "saying and retweeting", 'say' that.

Question for lad: who originated that statement? Do you understand your question portion bolded above? What dance do you want us to see you dancing now?

Question 2 for lad: who originated the 'deplorables' comment?

Question 3 for lad: was Michelle Obama's tweet a retweet?

Think about the differences, then think about what you asked in bold above.

Retweeting is an inherent endorsement.

(11-15-2020 04:52 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 04:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 04:36 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 04:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 01:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  What do you think about POTUS and conservatives saying such things?

Funny, I see one conservative saying that. Again, kind of the 'large as a barn brushstrokes' getting in the way of your commentary?

I chuckled a bit to your description of POTUS as just "one conservative." I see this very similar to Clinton and the deplorable comment, but I guess Clinton was just one liberal...

Funny, I saw the professor 'saying it'. Words lad, words.

If you mean "saying and retweeting", 'say' that.

Question for lad: who originated that statement? Do you understand your question portion bolded above? What dance do you want us to see you dancing now?

Question 2 for lad: who originated the 'deplorables' comment?

Question 3 for lad: was Michelle Obama's tweet a retweet?

Think about the differences, then think about what you asked in bold above.

Retweeting is an inherent endorsement.

Yet you ***** that I answered the question that *you* explicitly asked, and I explicitly answered. Dance lad, dance.

What other redefinitions are we in store for for this dance marathon I see looming ahead?

(11-15-2020 03:18 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Why does it matter if the incumbent is a first or second-term president?

Because if the incumbent wins re-election, there is no need for a transition.

In 2000 and 2016, the incumbent was not running for re-election. In 2020, he is.

In 2000, the incumbent did not know who he would be transitioning to.

In 2016, it would have been the same had The Sainted Hillary decided to ask for recounts in key states. Personally, I am glad TSH decided to throw in the towel without a fight. I have my doubts as to whether Trump's contentions will have any effect, but until it is actually decided in the proper forums (i.e., NOT the MSM), a transition is not in order.

I think you could have figured this out for yourself, had you been inclined to try.

(11-15-2020 02:56 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 02:15 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 01:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 11:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-15-2020 10:43 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Thoughts from our conservative contributors?

Quote from POTUS: Progress!

Article referenced by him (and basically the quote he retweeted): The Virginian-Pilot reported Friday that business professor and dean Paul Ewell wrote that anyone who chose Biden for president is “ignorant, anti-American and anti-Christian.”

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/stat...40353?s=21

I don’t think most of them are anti-Christian or anti-American.

I do think a lot of the reasons I hear for voting pro-Biden/anti-Trump are pretty ignorant. That ignorance was fanned by the intentional lies and fabrications of the media. One good example of ignorance is the fracking issue.

I outlined my reasons for voting for Trump. Nothing has changed, except that now the Senate may prove to be a firewall against the Blue Ripple.

What do you think about POTUS and conservatives saying such things?

I'll bite:
1. I believe that demonizing people simply because they voted for the "wrong" candidate is ignorant, anti-American, and anti- most faiths.

2. I would wager my life's savings that more leftists would disagree with #1 than would conservatives.

Your turn!

I think there's a fine line to tight rope. I'd agree with 1, with a slight caveat being that there certainly are candidates that would buck that trend - I don't think Trump or Biden (or really any politician in American politics I'm currently aware of) falls into that category.

Sounds good.

(11-15-2020 02:56 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  There is a place for actual honesty - both candidates definitely have supporters who truly have abhorrent views/opinions - and a honest discussion about what drives those supporters to support them can have value. Especially with respect to how candidates embrace or distance themselves from said supporters, as it can embolden those characters or move to relegate them from the picture.

Interesting enough. The question of whether some voters for a candidate are evil is different from the question of whether all voters for a candidate are (or should be labeled) evil.

(11-15-2020 02:56 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  To #2, I think the left is typically more outspoken publicly, which could weight your thoughts.

What chiefly weights my thoughts is that leftists are more likely to demonize people for voting incorrectly. Demonizing is certainly one form (a proper subset) of being "outspoken". So the greater tendency of leftists to demonize their opponents could stem from:
(a) a greater tendency to be outspoken in general, with a certain fraction of outspokenness inevitably being degenerating into demonization;
(b) a greater tendency specifically to be smug, obnoxious, and intolerant, which tends to motivate and excuse demonization; or
( c) both (a) and (b).

I suspect there are different views here on which factor plays the larger role.

(11-15-2020 02:56 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  I typically feel that both sides have a similar number of people who hold bad ideas.

Certainly within an order of magnitude, at least. After all, most people hold bad ideas, not least because (as has been observed) most ideas are bad.

Which is why the fundamental distinction is not whether this idea or that idea is the better one for government to impose, but rather the approach to imposition itself: whether government should be given a great deal of power, in case (contrary to most of history) the people wielding it are virtuous, or it should not, in case (consistent with most of history) they're not.

Biden advisors oppose lockdown

"[A lockdown is] a measure of last resort," Murthy said. "In the spring when we didn’t know a lot about COVID, we responded in a sense with an on/off switch. We just shut things down because, you know, we didn’t know exactly how this was spreading and where it was spreading.

Now, who else opposes a national lockdown? Trump.

Trump's tax returns

“Americans need to know that all taxpayers who are audited by the IRS get the same partial review — no one is above the law,” said Pascrell.

I wonder if the use of the word "partial" was Freudian slip, or if they think Trump was getting special treatment for the 20 years before he was President.

"Though he has defied a decades-old tradition of presidents releasing their records, Trump is not legally required to produce them and Congress has only released private tax information about anyone on extremely rare occasions."

The witch hunt continues.

The left has spent the last 4 years calling Trump an incestuous pedophile, a seditious traitor, a killer, a rapist etc etc etc you name it. Now all of sudden they want to act like Biden, who did many of those same things... will 'heal' the nation, when he will be lucky to 'heal' his own party.

Trump's an egotistical ass-hole. He needs to shut up about the election... but I could really care less about what he Tweets, or if he wants to spend hours and dollars challenging the election. It isn't going to make any difference whatsoever, to anything. He's proved that he can waste a lot of time on pointless tweets and still do his job.

The election does not hinge in Trump's acquiescence... So if Democrats would simply stop giving him the attention, it would stop wasting MY time, which I find to be much more valuable. To be clear... If Trump wants to waste his time and money, no problem. If the media (including social media) wants to waste mine, that's an issue.... and they DO waste my time, ever single damn day.

I am not convinced in ANY way that Trump's acquiescence is necessary for any 'transition', no matter what any of these talking heads and politico's say. He can be more or less helpful, but he is not 'God'... and for the left to harp on what a 'child' Trump is (and he is) while doing it themselves is ridiculous. All they are demonstrating to me is that they are exactly everything they complain about, just with worse ideas.

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  The left has spent the last 4 years calling Trump an incestuous pedophile, a seditious traitor, a killer, a rapist etc etc etc you name it. Now all of sudden they want to act like Biden, who did many of those same things... will 'heal' the nation, when he will be lucky to 'heal' his own party.

Huh? Which of these things did Biden "do"???

(11-16-2020 01:59 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  The left has spent the last 4 years calling Trump an incestuous pedophile, a seditious traitor, a killer, a rapist etc etc etc you name it. Now all of sudden they want to act like Biden, who did many of those same things... will 'heal' the nation, when he will be lucky to 'heal' his own party.

Huh? Which of these things did Biden "do"???

Which did Trump "do"?



https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/j...allegation

(11-16-2020 03:16 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 01:59 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  The left has spent the last 4 years calling Trump an incestuous pedophile, a seditious traitor, a killer, a rapist etc etc etc you name it. Now all of sudden they want to act like Biden, who did many of those same things... will 'heal' the nation, when he will be lucky to 'heal' his own party.

Huh? Which of these things did Biden "do"???

Which did Trump "do"?



https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/j...allegation

I didn't say that he "did" any of them. Ham said Biden did.

(11-16-2020 01:59 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  The left has spent the last 4 years calling Trump an incestuous pedophile, a seditious traitor, a killer, a rapist etc etc etc you name it. Now all of sudden they want to act like Biden, who did many of those same things... will 'heal' the nation, when he will be lucky to 'heal' his own party.

Huh? Which of these things did Biden "do"???

Oh come on... 'etc etc etc you name it' has meaning.

11/29 - Biden calls Trump's Presidency a 'threat' to the nation
8/31 - Biden says Trump is 'Subservient' to Putin.
9/29 - Biden says Trump is Putin's puppy.
7/31 Biden calls Trump inaction on Russia a Dereliction of duty
Sometime in July Biden calls Trump 'Dangerously Incompetent' (regarding Iran reaction)
9/20 regarding a conversation with Ukraine there is truly no bottom to President Trump’s willingness to abuse his power and abase our country," Biden said in a statement. "Such clear-cut corruption damages and diminishes our institutions of government by making them tools of a personal political vendetta."

I'd say those all fall under the category of sedition and traitor.

10/26 - Biden calls Trump a 'climate arsonist'
7/22 Biden calls Trump the First Racist US President

I didn't specifically mention racist nor arsonist, but certainly you'd agree they fell under the etc.

Can't find the date of the comment (the article was written in October) "“Two hundred and twenty thousand Americans dead,” Biden said. “If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this: anyone who's responsible for not taking control, in fact, [saying] I take no responsibility initially — anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."

That's calling him a killer.

Those are all within the last 6 months....

If I list 4 things... and he's directly done two of them, plus at least two more under the 'etc' tab... and that's just in the past few months, I think that qualifies as 'many'.

I don't know how to make google search for quotes from 2015-2018 when the pedophile and rapist charges were in their full swing, but that wasn't the point and you should know it.

I feel like you're trying to make a meaningless distinction when the point I'm making is clear but uncomfortable. Biden has been ugly... not just about Trump, but about Trump voters. You can look those up yourself... they were recent... and its clear that many Biden voters have been less than cordial towards the right... and yet now all of a sudden, Biden is going to 'heal' us?

I'm not a Trump supporter. You won't hear me talking about Biden and his voters the way many Democrats spoke of Trump and his voters... but I think you shouldn't be surprised if Biden and the left get a massive dose of exactly what they've been dishing out for the past 4 years. No, I don't wish it, but that's what happens most often.

(11-16-2020 03:45 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 01:59 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  The left has spent the last 4 years calling Trump an incestuous pedophile, a seditious traitor, a killer, a rapist etc etc etc you name it. Now all of sudden they want to act like Biden, who did many of those same things... will 'heal' the nation, when he will be lucky to 'heal' his own party.

Huh? Which of these things did Biden "do"???

Oh come on... 'etc etc etc you name it' has meaning.

11/29 - Biden calls Trump's Presidency a 'threat' to the nation
8/31 - Biden says Trump is 'Subservient' to Putin.
9/29 - Biden says Trump is Putin's puppy.
7/31 Biden calls Trump inaction on Russia a Dereliction of duty
Sometime in July Biden calls Trump 'Dangerously Incompetent' (regarding Iran reaction)
9/20 regarding a conversation with Ukraine there is truly no bottom to President Trump’s willingness to abuse his power and abase our country," Biden said in a statement. "Such clear-cut corruption damages and diminishes our institutions of government by making them tools of a personal political vendetta."

I'd say those all fall under the category of sedition and traitor.

10/26 - Biden calls Trump a 'climate arsonist'
7/22 Biden calls Trump the First Racist US President

I didn't specifically mention racist nor arsonist, but certainly you'd agree they fell under the etc.

Can't find the date of the comment (the article was written in October) "“Two hundred and twenty thousand Americans dead,” Biden said. “If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this: anyone who's responsible for not taking control, in fact, [saying] I take no responsibility initially — anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."

That's calling him a killer.

Those are all within the last 6 months....

If I list 4 things... and he's directly done two of them, plus at least two more under the 'etc' tab... and that's just in the past few months, I think that qualifies as 'many'.

I don't know how to make google search for quotes from 2015-2018 when the pedophile and rapist charges were in their full swing, but that wasn't the point and you should know it.

I feel like you're trying to make a meaningless distinction when the point I'm making is clear but uncomfortable. Biden has been ugly... not just about Trump, but about Trump voters. You can look those up yourself... they were recent... and its clear that many Biden voters have been less than cordial towards the right... and yet now all of a sudden, Biden is going to 'heal' us?

I'm not a Trump supporter. You won't hear me talking about Biden and his voters the way many Democrats spoke of Trump and his voters... but I think you shouldn't be surprised if Biden and the left get a massive dose of exactly what they've been dishing out for the past 4 years. No, I don't wish it, but that's what happens most often.

Got it... I honestly thought you were saying that Biden was a rapist, Killer, etc. etc.

(11-16-2020 04:17 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 03:45 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 01:59 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  The left has spent the last 4 years calling Trump an incestuous pedophile, a seditious traitor, a killer, a rapist etc etc etc you name it. Now all of sudden they want to act like Biden, who did many of those same things... will 'heal' the nation, when he will be lucky to 'heal' his own party.

Huh? Which of these things did Biden "do"???

Oh come on... 'etc etc etc you name it' has meaning.

11/29 - Biden calls Trump's Presidency a 'threat' to the nation
8/31 - Biden says Trump is 'Subservient' to Putin.
9/29 - Biden says Trump is Putin's puppy.
7/31 Biden calls Trump inaction on Russia a Dereliction of duty
Sometime in July Biden calls Trump 'Dangerously Incompetent' (regarding Iran reaction)
9/20 regarding a conversation with Ukraine there is truly no bottom to President Trump’s willingness to abuse his power and abase our country," Biden said in a statement. "Such clear-cut corruption damages and diminishes our institutions of government by making them tools of a personal political vendetta."

I'd say those all fall under the category of sedition and traitor.

10/26 - Biden calls Trump a 'climate arsonist'
7/22 Biden calls Trump the First Racist US President

I didn't specifically mention racist nor arsonist, but certainly you'd agree they fell under the etc.

Can't find the date of the comment (the article was written in October) "“Two hundred and twenty thousand Americans dead,” Biden said. “If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this: anyone who's responsible for not taking control, in fact, [saying] I take no responsibility initially — anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."

That's calling him a killer.

Those are all within the last 6 months....

If I list 4 things... and he's directly done two of them, plus at least two more under the 'etc' tab... and that's just in the past few months, I think that qualifies as 'many'.

I don't know how to make google search for quotes from 2015-2018 when the pedophile and rapist charges were in their full swing, but that wasn't the point and you should know it.

I feel like you're trying to make a meaningless distinction when the point I'm making is clear but uncomfortable. Biden has been ugly... not just about Trump, but about Trump voters. You can look those up yourself... they were recent... and its clear that many Biden voters have been less than cordial towards the right... and yet now all of a sudden, Biden is going to 'heal' us?

I'm not a Trump supporter. You won't hear me talking about Biden and his voters the way many Democrats spoke of Trump and his voters... but I think you shouldn't be surprised if Biden and the left get a massive dose of exactly what they've been dishing out for the past 4 years. No, I don't wish it, but that's what happens most often.

Got it... I honestly thought you were saying that Biden was a rapist, Killer, etc. etc.

That's how I read it too - that the things Trump had been accused of, Biden was also accused of/guilty of. Thought that was a bridge too far, but didn't feel like getting into the back and forth.

Wow, this is my favorite one yet!!

Trump is so desperate that he'll Tweet any lie, any claim of fraud, no matter how obviously false and stupid.

Why obviously false and stupid? Click into the article, and then into the "county-by-county review by Just the News".

Here's the link if you want it directly: https://justthenews.com/sites/default/fi...-by-county

Ok, now scroll to the bottom. What did they "find"? Yes, they claimed to find only 951 rejected mail-in votes in PA. But what else? That Biden beat Trump by over 700,000 votes!!! 4,089,513 to 3,300,819.

This man, our President, is so desperate to grind confidence in our electoral system into dust that he would Tweet obviously garbage numbers from a fake news factory that show him LOSING BY >650,000 VOTES MORE THAN HE ACTUALLY LOST BY!

If none of his other behavior bothers you, doesn't his complete, naive gullibility just irk you, even a bit? Just a tiny, little bit?

(11-16-2020 04:17 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Got it... I honestly thought you were saying that Biden was a rapist, Killer, etc. etc.

I could have been more clear and will accept that...

However, I think it speaks to my point that neither of you raised the same concern about Trump. You basically seem to accept that those are credible against him.

I think the 'who did' is a clear indicator. That's not an accusation, its a claim of fact.

(11-16-2020 05:03 PM)JimTiger Wrote:  If none of his other behavior bothers you, doesn't his complete, naive gullibility just irk you, even a bit? Just a tiny, little bit?

I can think of thousands of things done by members of both parties that irk me more. So a tiny bit? Sure.... but I only even KNOW about it because people like you tell me about it. It bothers me more that I have to not only hear about this, but I have to listen to (or read) dozens of people's responses to it.

I don't care what Trump thinks happened or what theory he wants to advance. He's a sore loser... so what? It's like putting someone on 'ignore' and then having people NOT on 'ignore' routinely quote them. The only things I cared much about regarding Trump were policies. These aren't policies. Biden's policies concern me more.