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(11-01-2020 03:49 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  The trick is going to be climbing higher than #6 or #5.

Not sure that they will let us get any higher than this...even if we go undefeated.

And the current polls are not the CFP rankings. I am expecting us to be at #7 or #8 in the CFP rankings, USA Today and AP be damned.

Some of the remaining teams are going to lose, possibly multiple times.

Notre Dame still has a game against Clemson, at North Carolina, at Wake Forest and the CCG that they could end up losing multiple games.

Georgia/Florida already have one loss and play each other. The winner of that game has Alabama in the CCG, if they survive the rest of their schedule.

I think our best option is for Alabama, Clemson, and OSU to win out as that means Georgia, Florida, Notre Dame will have at least 2 losses. Wisconsin will have at least one loss while playing a significant amount less games and possibly more losses.

I think too many people are ignoring a&m. I wouldn't be surprised if they win out and hang their hat on that florida win. I guarantee the committee will find a way to rank a 1 loss a&m over Cincy, even if they don't play in the secccg

Yep as the season comes to a close, look for multiple teams that TAMU has played to sneak into the back end of the committee's top 25.. unlike AP/Coaches poll there's not multiple people filling out a ballot individually, the committee top 25 can be anything they want it to be behind closed doors to create a story.

I'm a believer in the conspiracy that in 2017 the same exact thing happened when the committee somehow ended up with 9-3 Fresno State ranked 25th in the last Playoff Rankings solely because one loss Alabama had played them and they needed to boost Alabama's resume to get them into the playoff, doing so by increasing the number of top 25 teams Bama played. No way does even a 2 loss AAC team let alone a 3 loss team get in this year to help our resume.
 
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Honestly I think this team can compete with all but 3 teams, which are AL, Clemson and OSU. If we got #4 we would get one of those. Whoever is #4 will get smoked.
 
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(11-01-2020 06:36 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Honestly I think this team can compete with all but 3 teams, which are AL, Clemson and OSU. If we got #4 we would get one of those. Whoever is #4 will get smoked.

Several teams, including osu, have been smoked in the cfp. I think UC can at least match those performances
 
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RE: Playoffs
(11-01-2020 05:36 PM)dubcat14 Wrote:  
(11-01-2020 04:05 PM)Lurkercat Wrote:  
(11-01-2020 03:58 PM)C1ncy4Life Wrote:  
(11-01-2020 03:49 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  The trick is going to be climbing higher than #6 or #5.

Not sure that they will let us get any higher than this...even if we go undefeated.

And the current polls are not the CFP rankings. I am expecting us to be at #7 or #8 in the CFP rankings, USA Today and AP be damned.

Some of the remaining teams are going to lose, possibly multiple times.

Notre Dame still has a game against Clemson, at North Carolina, at Wake Forest and the CCG that they could end up losing multiple games.

Georgia/Florida already have one loss and play each other. The winner of that game has Alabama in the CCG, if they survive the rest of their schedule.

I think our best option is for Alabama, Clemson, and OSU to win out as that means Georgia, Florida, Notre Dame will have at least 2 losses. Wisconsin will have at least one loss while playing a significant amount less games and possibly more losses.

I think too many people are ignoring a&m. I wouldn't be surprised if they win out and hang their hat on that florida win. I guarantee the committee will find a way to rank a 1 loss a&m over Cincy, even if they don't play in the secccg

Yep as the season comes to a close, look for multiple teams that TAMU has played to sneak into the back end of the committee's top 25.. unlike AP/Coaches poll there's not multiple people filling out a ballot individually, the committee top 25 can be anything they want it to be behind closed doors to create a story.

I'm a believer in the conspiracy that in 2017 the same exact thing happened when the committee somehow ended up with 9-3 Fresno State ranked 25th in the last Playoff Rankings solely because one loss Alabama had played them and they needed to boost Alabama's resume to get them into the playoff, doing so by increasing the number of top 25 teams Bama played. No way does even a 2 loss AAC team let alone a 3 loss team get in this year to help our resume.

There really isn’t a chance for any additional A&M opponents to earn a ranking before they play A&M. They will all be 500 or below when they play. I guess if LSU wins there remaining games they would be 5-3, but considering they are playing Alabama this week they will likely drop to 2-4 and be lucky to get back to 500 before playing A&M.

Auburn is currently ranked and may move up, but I don’t see how any of the remaining A&M opponents will get a ranking when they play.
 
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(11-01-2020 05:27 PM)BigDawg Wrote:  I personally don't know that they would take A&M over undefeated UC and my gut says they will lose one anyway. Florida is a nice win, though at home, but they barely beat Vandy and were stomped by Bama. We already have as many ranked wins as they can possibly get and we stomped out ranked teams, one on the road, while they won by 3 at home.

I think we need Clemson, Bama and O$U to run the table and Pac-12 to have 1 loss. In a year like this, maybe the committee throws us a bone to say they gave the little guys a shot. Ideally A&M loses another one and the cards fall right.

First things first, we need to focus on this week and win out to have a shot. It would be nice to see SMU win out and keep moving up the rankings and then beat them in the title game again, which could give us to 2 very strong wins.

Yep, we just need to focus on winning and hopefully convincingly. If we take care of business I think everything will fall in place for us. It’s not guaranteed, but we are set up better than any G5 team has been and have a legitimate shot at a playoff birth if we end the season undefeated.
 
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(11-01-2020 06:36 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Honestly I think this team can compete with all but 3 teams, which are AL, Clemson and OSU. If we got #4 we would get one of those. Whoever is #4 will get smoked.

Nice thing about these bowls is you're not playing at the opponents place nor against the refs. If this team can run the table, and do so as emphatically as they've shown the last two games then I think they can play with anyone.

I don't think I recall a UC team manhandling good competition like this one has the last two games.
 
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(11-01-2020 06:36 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Honestly I think this team can compete with all but 3 teams, which are AL, Clemson and OSU. If we got #4 we would get one of those. Whoever is #4 will get smoked.

That's kind of where I'm at. I'd almost rather us get lodged at #5 after going undefeated then just eviscerated someone in a NY6 bowl whole whoever goes in at #4 gets torn to shreds....would flip the narrative from "Why was Cincinnati in when they just got drilled" to "The playoff system is completely broken if Cincinnati wasn't given a shot."
 
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RE: Playoffs
(11-01-2020 11:33 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(11-01-2020 06:36 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Honestly I think this team can compete with all but 3 teams, which are AL, Clemson and OSU. If we got #4 we would get one of those. Whoever is #4 will get smoked.

That's kind of where I'm at. I'd almost rather us get lodged at #5 after going undefeated then just eviscerated someone in a NY6 bowl whole whoever goes in at #4 gets torn to shreds....would flip the narrative from "Why was Cincinnati in when they just got drilled" to "The playoff system is completely broken if Cincinnati wasn't given a shot."

Totally agree. OSU and OK have been smoked in the past but they get a pass. We would not.
 
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RE: Playoffs
(11-01-2020 11:33 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(11-01-2020 06:36 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Honestly I think this team can compete with all but 3 teams, which are AL, Clemson and OSU. If we got #4 we would get one of those. Whoever is #4 will get smoked.

That's kind of where I'm at. I'd almost rather us get lodged at #5 after going undefeated then just eviscerated someone in a NY6 bowl whole whoever goes in at #4 gets torn to shreds....would flip the narrative from "Why was Cincinnati in when they just got drilled" to "The playoff system is completely broken if Cincinnati wasn't given a shot."

Nah, the narrative would be- “Obviously Georgia/A&M didn’t even want to be there. They came out flat. It was Cincinnati’s Super Bowl.”

Take the money from the CFP if it comes available. A lot of schools have been blown out since we have started this system.

Also... what if we don’t get blown out? Even if we would lose say 28-20... would we get props?
 
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You want that shot. Anything can happen and if you don't want to take the chance to play in the playoff, then why even recruit and try? We can dream and while I don't think we have much of a chance of beating any of the top 3, you never know. All three of the big teams have had some close calls or losses against some bad teams, so any given Saturday.
 
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(10-28-2020 07:50 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Playoff was not going to happen anyways.

Go undefeated, win that bowl game and call UCF to see where they ordered their fake national championship trophy.

Especially this year when some might not be available to play due to COVID. I realize it’s cheap but it’s also part of our lives right now.

Look what BC almost did to Clemson last Saturday. And we shellacked BC in the whatever the **** bowl that was last season.
 
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Drilled or not drilled, you want to play for a National Chip. Anyone think Coach Fick, the staff, and the players don't have that as the ultimate goal? If, A BIG IF, we could sneak in the CFP it would be the first time for a non-power conference program. Anyone think that would hurt our brand or recruiting? Anyone?
 
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(11-02-2020 07:39 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Drilled or not drilled, you want to play for a National Chip. Anyone think Coach Fick, the staff, and the players don't have that as the ultimate goal? If, A BIG IF, we could sneak in the CFP it would be the first time for a non-power conference program. Anyone think that would hurt our brand or recruiting? Anyone?

Agreed.

The idea of not wanting to be in the CFP is akin to saying UC should have "turned down" the Final Four appearance in '92 because of Duke, Michigan, and Indiana having superior talent. As I recall, that was the first time all four semi-finalists had previously won national championships. Even in losing, Cincinnati was mentioned in the same sentence with those elite basketball schools and it's now regarded as a cornerstone of our program--UC's sixth FF.

And we still celebrated it with throwback jerseys a quarter of a century later. A national semi-final or final is nothing to walk away from. Is there shame in losing 63-28? Oklahoma did last year and it's still considered a college football blue blood.

We'll still be celebrating an appearance this year with throw back football jerseys in 2045 I suppose.
 
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I’d only hope we’d still have a coach and a staff unlike the Sugar Bowl.
 
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(11-01-2020 11:49 PM)doss2 Wrote:  
(11-01-2020 11:33 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(11-01-2020 06:36 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Honestly I think this team can compete with all but 3 teams, which are AL, Clemson and OSU. If we got #4 we would get one of those. Whoever is #4 will get smoked.

That's kind of where I'm at. I'd almost rather us get lodged at #5 after going undefeated then just eviscerated someone in a NY6 bowl whole whoever goes in at #4 gets torn to shreds....would flip the narrative from "Why was Cincinnati in when they just got drilled" to "The playoff system is completely broken if Cincinnati wasn't given a shot."

Totally agree. OSU and OK have been smoked in the past but they get a pass. We would not.

You take the playoff appearance and you don't even think twice. if, and it's still a gigantic "if", we make it, we would be the first non-P5 and quite frankly we may be the last. if we do well it may also open up the window for a return appearance if we go undefeated again. Being a playoff caliber team also helps our recruiting. Sure, the likelihood is that we get crushed but maybe half of Clemson's roster gets COVID.

Roll the effing dice...
 
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(11-02-2020 08:17 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I’d only hope we’d still have a coach and a staff unlike the Sugar Bowl.

Sadly, national writers who know nothing about our program are reverting to rolling back the tape to 2009 and continuing the narrative about who in the P5 hires Fickell two months from now.

It would be a joy to reach the NY6 or CFP; it would be a pleasure if the talking heads were commenting about a team that gave up just five rushing yards on Saturday as opposed to speculating about who in the P5 will be fired and will come after our coach.
 
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In their defense, CLF is going to have several brinks trucks offer to back up to his house before the holidays regardless of wether the playoffs are in play or not.
 
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(11-02-2020 08:28 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  In their defense, CLF is going to have several brinks trucks offer to back up to his house before the holidays regardless of wether the playoffs are in play or not.

Yep...this is going to be WAYYYYY worse than MSU was, because we won't have Freeman to fall back on either I'm thinking.
 
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You want the playoffs for 2 reasons:

1. You can sell recruits on the fact that, yes, UC can make the playoffs.
2. The fans and the boosters will come out of the woodwork to keep Fick
 
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(11-02-2020 09:05 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  You want the playoffs for 2 reasons:

1. You can sell the coaching staff on the fact that, yes, UC can make the playoffs.
2. The fans and the boosters will come out of the woodwork to keep Fick

FIFY
 
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