(09-15-2020 11:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: Wait, help me with something here...
Didn't Arkansas State lose by 2 TD's to Memphis, before beating KSU? How good a win is defeating Kansas State then.
Wouldn't pretty much any of our teams have beaten Kansas and by a lot. What am I missing here. Kansas has been abysmal for years (decades?).
Louisana over Iowa State is an OK win. If you actually believe Iowa State is that good. I mean I know they went 7-6 last year, but I mean they were a 500 team basically. It's a decent win I will give them some credit for that one.
Would anyone anywhere have blinked an eye if the AAC had defeated 3 poor to mediocre B12 teams? For some reason I don't think so. Am I wrong. What world beaters were defeated. Did someone walk into Texas or Oklahoma and get a win? I mean Navy beat Kansas State in a bowl last year and ended up losing by 50 to BYU. Is that really impressive to beat them?
Where are these great wins. AAC teams regularly beat much better opponents year in and year out.
What am I missing. I see 3 OK wins over 3 run of the mill B12 teams that any of our top teams would have beaten easily. Did anyone anywhere really care nationally that Navy beat Kansas State. No, it was a run of the mill story.
What you're missing is the perception. The perception that the Sun Belt of 2020 is still the Sun Belt of 2001. The perception that App's conference schedule and one loss to a rival was enough to disqualify them from NY6 running, despite defeating UNC and USC; mind you UNC was a 2 point conversion away from beating Clemson and USC beat Georgia.
There is this perception that the MWC, C-USA, and MAC are still years ahead of the Sun Belt, at least from the National Media and that pervades the general college football fandom consensus. What changed this past weekend was the recognition that the Sun Belt of 2020 is different from 2001 and 2013 and has surpassed C-USA and the MAC; though statistics shows that this actually happened in 2016.
So you can say the AAC does the annually and it's true. But the Sun Belt is currently competing to wipe the perception of being the lowest of the low and Saturday was the first time that many in the National Media actually were forced to acknowledge it.
Pecking order actually would be AAC, Sun Belt/MWC, MAC/C-USA, respectively. If we are considering G5 conferences in name alone, that is the reality but hasn't been the perception.
Louisiana went 11-3 in 2019 and guess who two of their losses were to? App State. The other was to Mississippi State in Week 1 which saw typical Week 1 mistakes dog them down. Truth be told, Louisiana should've finished ranked last year which likely would have given App a better shot at overcoming the perception gap of the quality of their season.
Memphis lost to Penn State pretty soundly to close out 2019. In 2018 App had No. 9 Penn State down, in Happy Valley, 38-31 with 50 seconds left after being down 24-10 at one point in the 2nd half.