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Possible cause for The rise of the Sunbelt
They know a secret...?

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It's because the Sun Belt has surpassed that AAC.
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(09-15-2020 01:42 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  It's because the Sun Belt has surpassed that AAC.

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(09-15-2020 01:42 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  It's because the Sun Belt has surpassed that AAC.
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(09-14-2020 05:41 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  They know a secret...?

New discovery

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Good football players. Hungry programs with a chip on their shoulder. Loyal local crowds and appropriately sized on campus stadiums. Faithful alums. Good regional rivalries. Smart up and coming coaches. Lack of pampered players..

Underdog syndrome.

I've been telling yall the sunbelt plays good ba for a long time.

Plus Vitamin P

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(09-15-2020 05:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Good football players. Hungry programs with a chip on their shoulder. Loyal local crowds and appropriately sized on campus stadiums. Faithful alums. Good regional rivalries. Smart up and coming coaches. Lack of pampered players..

Underdog syndrome.

I've been telling yall the sunbelt plays good ba for a long time.

Plus Vitamin P

07-coffee3

Very good points. They played some great football this past weekend.
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I think its just pretty clear that the Big 12 would not be a P5 conference if it wasn't for Texas and Oklahoma.
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Little Rock would've been a good 14 over a 3 during the tournament that never happened. Oh we're talking about football.
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(09-15-2020 05:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Good football players. Hungry programs with a chip on their shoulder. Loyal local crowds and appropriately sized on campus stadiums. Faithful alums. Good regional rivalries. Smart up and coming coaches. Lack of pampered players..

Underdog syndrome.

I've been telling yall the sunbelt plays good ba for a long time.

Plus Vitamin P

07-coffee3

Strange. I keep being told that you have to be located in some gigantic city for “market share” in order to be a successful football program.
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(09-15-2020 07:21 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020 05:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Good football players. Hungry programs with a chip on their shoulder. Loyal local crowds and appropriately sized on campus stadiums. Faithful alums. Good regional rivalries. Smart up and coming coaches. Lack of pampered players..

Underdog syndrome.

I've been telling yall the sunbelt plays good ba for a long time.

Plus Vitamin P

07-coffee3

Strange. I keep being told that you have to be located in some gigantic city for “market share” in order to be a successful football program.

All you gotta do is play good football. ESPN wants a big media market. There are more good high school football players than the p5 can take. There are 20 teams that above everybody. The rest is a lie
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Sun Belt football is legit. Full respect.
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Wait, help me with something here...

Didn't Arkansas State lose by 2 TD's to Memphis, before beating KSU? How good a win is defeating Kansas State then.

Wouldn't pretty much any of our teams have beaten Kansas and by a lot. What am I missing here. Kansas has been abysmal for years (decades?).

Louisana over Iowa State is an OK win. If you actually believe Iowa State is that good. I mean I know they went 7-6 last year, but I mean they were a 500 team basically. It's a decent win I will give them some credit for that one.

Would anyone anywhere have blinked an eye if the AAC had defeated 3 poor to mediocre B12 teams? For some reason I don't think so. Am I wrong. What world beaters were defeated. Did someone walk into Texas or Oklahoma and get a win? I mean Navy beat Kansas State in a bowl last year and ended up losing by 50 to BYU. Is that really impressive to beat them?

Where are these great wins. AAC teams regularly beat much better opponents year in and year out.

What am I missing. I see 3 OK wins over 3 run of the mill B12 teams that any of our top teams would have beaten easily. Did anyone anywhere really care nationally that Navy beat Kansas State. No, it was a run of the mill story.
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(09-15-2020 09:24 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Sun Belt football is legit. Full respect.

Agree. They're tough as nails.
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(09-15-2020 09:24 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Sun Belt football is legit. Full respect.

+3 to a fellow Cubs fan. You're as stupid as I am.
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(09-15-2020 01:42 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  It's because the Sun Belt has surpassed that AAC.


Cleary since they are 0-3 vs the AAC this season.
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(09-15-2020 08:20 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(09-15-2020 07:21 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020 05:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Good football players. Hungry programs with a chip on their shoulder. Loyal local crowds and appropriately sized on campus stadiums. Faithful alums. Good regional rivalries. Smart up and coming coaches. Lack of pampered players..

Underdog syndrome.

I've been telling yall the sunbelt plays good ba for a long time.

Plus Vitamin P

07-coffee3

Strange. I keep being told that you have to be located in some gigantic city for “market share” in order to be a successful football program.

All you gotta do is play good football. ESPN wants a big media market. There are more good high school football players than the p5 can take. There are 20 teams that above everybody. The rest is a lie

Totally agree. Just win.
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(09-15-2020 11:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Wait, help me with something here...

Didn't Arkansas State lose by 2 TD's to Memphis, before beating KSU? How good a win is defeating Kansas State then.

Wouldn't pretty much any of our teams have beaten Kansas and by a lot. What am I missing here. Kansas has been abysmal for years (decades?).

Louisana over Iowa State is an OK win. If you actually believe Iowa State is that good. I mean I know they went 7-6 last year, but I mean they were a 500 team basically. It's a decent win I will give them some credit for that one.

Would anyone anywhere have blinked an eye if the AAC had defeated 3 poor to mediocre B12 teams? For some reason I don't think so. Am I wrong. What world beaters were defeated. Did someone walk into Texas or Oklahoma and get a win? I mean Navy beat Kansas State in a bowl last year and ended up losing by 50 to BYU. Is that really impressive to beat them?

Where are these great wins. AAC teams regularly beat much better opponents year in and year out.

What am I missing. I see 3 OK wins over 3 run of the mill B12 teams that any of our top teams would have beaten easily. Did anyone anywhere really care nationally that Navy beat Kansas State. No, it was a run of the mill story.

For the love of Nancy let them have this one. Their conference had a great week.
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(09-15-2020 11:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Wait, help me with something here...

Didn't Arkansas State lose by 2 TD's to Memphis, before beating KSU? How good a win is defeating Kansas State then.

Wouldn't pretty much any of our teams have beaten Kansas and by a lot. What am I missing here. Kansas has been abysmal for years (decades?).

Louisana over Iowa State is an OK win. If you actually believe Iowa State is that good. I mean I know they went 7-6 last year, but I mean they were a 500 team basically. It's a decent win I will give them some credit for that one.

Would anyone anywhere have blinked an eye if the AAC had defeated 3 poor to mediocre B12 teams? For some reason I don't think so. Am I wrong. What world beaters were defeated. Did someone walk into Texas or Oklahoma and get a win? I mean Navy beat Kansas State in a bowl last year and ended up losing by 50 to BYU. Is that really impressive to beat them?

Where are these great wins. AAC teams regularly beat much better opponents year in and year out.

What am I missing. I see 3 OK wins over 3 run of the mill B12 teams that any of our top teams would have beaten easily. Did anyone anywhere really care nationally that Navy beat Kansas State. No, it was a run of the mill story.

Who are these “much better opponents” the AAC wins year in and year out? This isn’t me saying the SBC is just as good as the AAC from top to bottom, but more so my point is that when G5 schools get wins over P5s, the P5s are generally your run of the mill middling P5 programs. Other than the top of the top P5s, the rest can be beaten by good G5’s on any day.
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(09-16-2020 09:49 AM)App10 Wrote:  
(09-15-2020 11:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Wait, help me with something here...

Didn't Arkansas State lose by 2 TD's to Memphis, before beating KSU? How good a win is defeating Kansas State then.

Wouldn't pretty much any of our teams have beaten Kansas and by a lot. What am I missing here. Kansas has been abysmal for years (decades?).

Louisana over Iowa State is an OK win. If you actually believe Iowa State is that good. I mean I know they went 7-6 last year, but I mean they were a 500 team basically. It's a decent win I will give them some credit for that one.

Would anyone anywhere have blinked an eye if the AAC had defeated 3 poor to mediocre B12 teams? For some reason I don't think so. Am I wrong. What world beaters were defeated. Did someone walk into Texas or Oklahoma and get a win? I mean Navy beat Kansas State in a bowl last year and ended up losing by 50 to BYU. Is that really impressive to beat them?

Where are these great wins. AAC teams regularly beat much better opponents year in and year out.

What am I missing. I see 3 OK wins over 3 run of the mill B12 teams that any of our top teams would have beaten easily. Did anyone anywhere really care nationally that Navy beat Kansas State. No, it was a run of the mill story.

Who are these “much better opponents” the AAC wins year in and year out? This isn’t me saying the SBC is just as good as the AAC from top to bottom, but more so my point is that when G5 schools get wins over P5s, the P5s are generally your run of the mill middling P5 programs. Other than the top of the top P5s, the rest can be beaten by good G5’s on any day.

You can pour through the details here:

NCAA Football : Conference Series Records : Sun Belt records against other conferences

NCAA Football : Conference Series Records : American Athletic records against other conferences

The easier route is just to flip through the standings year by year on ESPN's page to see wins vs. AP top 25 teams:

2019
AAC: 8
Sun Belt: 1

2018
AAC: 0
Sun Belt: 0

2017
AAC: 4
Sun Belt: 1

2016:
AAC: 5
Sun Belt: 1

2015
AAC: 6
Sun Belt: 0

Again, doesn't mean you guys had a bad week last week. You had a great week.
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