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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
(11-06-2020 02:13 AM)pono Wrote:  
(11-05-2020 04:57 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  Early signing period is Nov 11 - 18.

Meanwhile Verbal Commits reports the Rockets have offered another Center from England for 2021 Class.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/giovanni-emejuru

well, i bet we sign him. if you are gonna offer a kid a week before the signing date and you just so happen to have a frontcourt built around most of the top inside talent to come out of that, relatively, basketball poor country, it's hard to see him say, "nah, i think i'll go to montana state". or however they say it in england. meets the eye test. tall, strong, long, likes to dunk very hard (those dinky english gym backboards are the real star of his highlight reel). i mean, he plays with and against kids who are more like the jv in america. so, i think the approach is get him on the court and around these other more polished and experienced hard working bigs in our program and see what he can be. i like that he's lefthanded. i loved the play in his reel where he flat-flooted swats a mid-range shot to about half court. of all the kids 6-8 or bigger we have officially offered he's the most intriguing.



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A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
Did he play against anyone taller than 6'2" in the video. Looks like an athlete though.

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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
(11-06-2020 04:31 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  
(11-06-2020 02:13 AM)pono Wrote:  [quote='Sleepy' pid='17079078' dateline='1604613463']
Early signing period is Nov 11 - 18.

Meanwhile Verbal Commits reports the Rockets have offered another Center from England for 2021 Class.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/giovanni-emejuru

well, i bet we sign him. if you are gonna offer a kid a week before the signing date and you just so happen to have a frontcourt built around most of the top inside talent to come out of that, relatively, basketball poor country, it's hard to see him say, "nah, i think i'll go to montana state". or however they say it in england. meets the eye test. tall, strong, long, likes to dunk very hard (those dinky english gym backboards are the real star of his highlight reel). i mean, he plays with and against kids who are more like the jv in america. so, i think the approach is get him on the court and around these other more polished and experienced hard working bigs in our program and see what he can be. i like that he's lefthanded. i loved the play in his reel where he flat-flooted swats a mid-range shot to about half court. of all the kids 6-8 or bigger we have officially offered he's the most intriguing.




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From the Video it looks like he has "good hands" as that is what TK always says about evaluating post player recruits. TK says you can't teach good hands -- either you have them or you don't. I agree Pono, we'll need to get in on campus playing with our Bigs to really determine his skill level and potential. But I think its worth the risk as recruiting post players is always a crap shoot!
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
(11-06-2020 03:24 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  
(11-06-2020 04:31 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  
(11-06-2020 02:13 AM)pono Wrote:  [quote='Sleepy' pid='17079078' dateline='1604613463']
Early signing period is Nov 11 - 18.

Meanwhile Verbal Commits reports the Rockets have offered another Center from England for 2021 Class.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/giovanni-emejuru

well, i bet we sign him. if you are gonna offer a kid a week before the signing date and you just so happen to have a frontcourt built around most of the top inside talent to come out of that, relatively, basketball poor country, it's hard to see him say, "nah, i think i'll go to montana state". or however they say it in england. meets the eye test. tall, strong, long, likes to dunk very hard (those dinky english gym backboards are the real star of his highlight reel). i mean, he plays with and against kids who are more like the jv in america. so, i think the approach is get him on the court and around these other more polished and experienced hard working bigs in our program and see what he can be. i like that he's lefthanded. i loved the play in his reel where he flat-flooted swats a mid-range shot to about half court. of all the kids 6-8 or bigger we have officially offered he's the most intriguing.




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From the Video it looks like he has "good hands" as that is what TK always says about evaluating post player recruits. TK says you can't teach good hands -- either you have them or you don't. I agree Pono, we'll need to get in on campus playing with our Bigs to really determine his skill level and potential. But I think its worth the risk as recruiting post players is always a crap shoot!

truth. insightful post. and to be fair nichols or mcdonald and the old greats would say pretty much the same thing as TK-good hands and accept that it's a crap shoot. look, there's only so many 6-10 humans. the athletic ones have great opportunities with basketball, but the motivation is different. to be a good 6-2 college basketball player you have to have a high level of skill and motivation and are probably highly competitive. meanwhile, big guys who are skilled but not super competitive will still get recruited. big guys who aren't very skilled but compete hard will have a place to play. this guy looks to me like he's initially a finisher and rim protector with good potential as a rebounder and maybe some feel for using the backboard with left handed left block post moves.
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(10-18-2020 11:57 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(10-17-2020 08:47 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  Local talent getting interest from Toledo -

2021 G/F George Mangas – Ohio’s reigning Player of the Year in Division II looks more than ready to try his hand at the award for a second straight season. In a competitive and upbeat open gym environment, Mangas was special with nearly every catch of the basketball. Pouring in shots from all over the floor, he showed his ability to knock down the triple off the catch or off the dribble with a high degree of efficiency and difficulty. Was strong finishing in transition and around the rim. Came off screens hard, competed, and saw things one step ahead of everyone else on the floor. Has good size and can get it done on the defensive end of the floor. Very smart, doesn’t do a lot of talking, can flat out hoop. Currently holds an offer from Findlay, with interest from Toledo, Miami (OH), West Liberty, Fairmont State, and many others. Doesn’t get near the attention a talent of his caliber should.

https://ehoopsohio.com/

Boggles doesn't it. Beat Lima Senior with their height and 2-3 DI to be players. Not short at 6'3". If a Ryan Smith and Dakota Mathias can end up at Purdue, Mangas is B10 caliber. "Interest" from Toledo in an insult. Should have had a solid offer.

Here's a Prep Hoops blurb on Mangas from Nov 6
"George Mangas, 6’4 SF Lima Shawnee 2021: Mangas had a huge high school season, helping Shawnee go unbeaten before COVID cancelled the remainder of the playoffs. Mangas continued his tear of a run with a huge summer for NW Ohio at different events in Fort Wayne. Mangas biggest games came against Indy Heat, a squad loaded with high major prospects including Meechie Johnson and Kalen Etzler
. Despite this talent, Mangas was scoring 20+ points on high efficiency in multiple games Vs Indy Heat. Mangas proved he can score the ball against top competition and I believe he is vastly under-recruited at the moment."
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
(11-07-2020 12:14 AM)pono Wrote:  
(11-06-2020 03:24 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  
(11-06-2020 04:31 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  
(11-06-2020 02:13 AM)pono Wrote:  [quote='Sleepy' pid='17079078' dateline='1604613463']
Early signing period is Nov 11 - 18.

Meanwhile Verbal Commits reports the Rockets have offered another Center from England for 2021 Class.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/giovanni-emejuru

well, i bet we sign him. if you are gonna offer a kid a week before the signing date and you just so happen to have a frontcourt built around most of the top inside talent to come out of that, relatively, basketball poor country, it's hard to see him say, "nah, i think i'll go to montana state". or however they say it in england. meets the eye test. tall, strong, long, likes to dunk very hard (those dinky english gym backboards are the real star of his highlight reel). i mean, he plays with and against kids who are more like the jv in america. so, i think the approach is get him on the court and around these other more polished and experienced hard working bigs in our program and see what he can be. i like that he's lefthanded. i loved the play in his reel where he flat-flooted swats a mid-range shot to about half court. of all the kids 6-8 or bigger we have officially offered he's the most intriguing.




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From the Video it looks like he has "good hands" as that is what TK always says about evaluating post player recruits. TK says you can't teach good hands -- either you have them or you don't. I agree Pono, we'll need to get in on campus playing with our Bigs to really determine his skill level and potential. But I think its worth the risk as recruiting post players is always a crap shoot!

truth. insightful post. and to be fair nichols or mcdonald and the old greats would say pretty much the same thing as TK-good hands and accept that it's a crap shoot. look, there's only so many 6-10 humans. the athletic ones have great opportunities with basketball, but the motivation is different. to be a good 6-2 college basketball player you have to have a high level of skill and motivation and are probably highly competitive. meanwhile, big guys who are skilled but not super competitive will still get recruited. big guys who aren't very skilled but compete hard will have a place to play. this guy looks to me like he's initially a finisher and rim protector with good potential as a rebounder and maybe some feel for using the backboard with left handed left block post moves.

Coach K has a good record of developing 6-10 post players.
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
(11-08-2020 01:33 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  
(10-18-2020 11:57 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(10-17-2020 08:47 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  Local talent getting interest from Toledo -

2021 G/F George Mangas – Ohio’s reigning Player of the Year in Division II looks more than ready to try his hand at the award for a second straight season. In a competitive and upbeat open gym environment, Mangas was special with nearly every catch of the basketball. Pouring in shots from all over the floor, he showed his ability to knock down the triple off the catch or off the dribble with a high degree of efficiency and difficulty. Was strong finishing in transition and around the rim. Came off screens hard, competed, and saw things one step ahead of everyone else on the floor. Has good size and can get it done on the defensive end of the floor. Very smart, doesn’t do a lot of talking, can flat out hoop. Currently holds an offer from Findlay, with interest from Toledo, Miami (OH), West Liberty, Fairmont State, and many others. Doesn’t get near the attention a talent of his caliber should.

https://ehoopsohio.com/

Boggles doesn't it. Beat Lima Senior with their height and 2-3 DI to be players. Not short at 6'3". If a Ryan Smith and Dakota Mathias can end up at Purdue, Mangas is B10 caliber. "Interest" from Toledo in an insult. Should have had a solid offer.

Here's a Prep Hoops blurb on Mangas from Nov 6
"George Mangas, 6’4 SF Lima Shawnee 2021: Mangas had a huge high school season, helping Shawnee go unbeaten before COVID cancelled the remainder of the playoffs. Mangas continued his tear of a run with a huge summer for NW Ohio at different events in Fort Wayne. Mangas biggest games came against Indy Heat, a squad loaded with high major prospects including Meechie Johnson and Kalen Etzler
. Despite this talent, Mangas was scoring 20+ points on high efficiency in multiple games Vs Indy Heat. Mangas proved he can score the ball against top competition and I believe he is vastly under-recruited at the moment."

Mangas is about to blow up as a recruit I think. Seems to be the real deal.
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
(11-08-2020 12:45 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 01:33 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  
(10-18-2020 11:57 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(10-17-2020 08:47 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  Local talent getting interest from Toledo -

2021 G/F George Mangas – Ohio’s reigning Player of the Year in Division II looks more than ready to try his hand at the award for a second straight season. In a competitive and upbeat open gym environment, Mangas was special with nearly every catch of the basketball. Pouring in shots from all over the floor, he showed his ability to knock down the triple off the catch or off the dribble with a high degree of efficiency and difficulty. Was strong finishing in transition and around the rim. Came off screens hard, competed, and saw things one step ahead of everyone else on the floor. Has good size and can get it done on the defensive end of the floor. Very smart, doesn’t do a lot of talking, can flat out hoop. Currently holds an offer from Findlay, with interest from Toledo, Miami (OH), West Liberty, Fairmont State, and many others. Doesn’t get near the attention a talent of his caliber should.

https://ehoopsohio.com/

Boggles doesn't it. Beat Lima Senior with their height and 2-3 DI to be players. Not short at 6'3". If a Ryan Smith and Dakota Mathias can end up at Purdue, Mangas is B10 caliber. "Interest" from Toledo in an insult. Should have had a solid offer.

Here's a Prep Hoops blurb on Mangas from Nov 6
"George Mangas, 6’4 SF Lima Shawnee 2021: Mangas had a huge high school season, helping Shawnee go unbeaten before COVID cancelled the remainder of the playoffs. Mangas continued his tear of a run with a huge summer for NW Ohio at different events in Fort Wayne. Mangas biggest games came against Indy Heat, a squad loaded with high major prospects including Meechie Johnson and Kalen Etzler
. Despite this talent, Mangas was scoring 20+ points on high efficiency in multiple games Vs Indy Heat. Mangas proved he can score the ball against top competition and I believe he is vastly under-recruited at the moment."

Mangas is about to blow up as a recruit I think. Seems to be the real deal.

there's always some guys who just don't get recruited at the level they produce for whatever reason. i wasn't too impressed w his tapes, but sometimes subtle skills and moves don't show up as well in highlight reels.
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
(11-08-2020 04:52 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 12:45 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 01:33 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  
(10-18-2020 11:57 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(10-17-2020 08:47 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  Local talent getting interest from Toledo -

2021 G/F George Mangas – Ohio’s reigning Player of the Year in Division II looks more than ready to try his hand at the award for a second straight season. In a competitive and upbeat open gym environment, Mangas was special with nearly every catch of the basketball. Pouring in shots from all over the floor, he showed his ability to knock down the triple off the catch or off the dribble with a high degree of efficiency and difficulty. Was strong finishing in transition and around the rim. Came off screens hard, competed, and saw things one step ahead of everyone else on the floor. Has good size and can get it done on the defensive end of the floor. Very smart, doesn’t do a lot of talking, can flat out hoop. Currently holds an offer from Findlay, with interest from Toledo, Miami (OH), West Liberty, Fairmont State, and many others. Doesn’t get near the attention a talent of his caliber should.

https://ehoopsohio.com/

Boggles doesn't it. Beat Lima Senior with their height and 2-3 DI to be players. Not short at 6'3". If a Ryan Smith and Dakota Mathias can end up at Purdue, Mangas is B10 caliber. "Interest" from Toledo in an insult. Should have had a solid offer.

Here's a Prep Hoops blurb on Mangas from Nov 6
"George Mangas, 6’4 SF Lima Shawnee 2021: Mangas had a huge high school season, helping Shawnee go unbeaten before COVID cancelled the remainder of the playoffs. Mangas continued his tear of a run with a huge summer for NW Ohio at different events in Fort Wayne. Mangas biggest games came against Indy Heat, a squad loaded with high major prospects including Meechie Johnson and Kalen Etzler
. Despite this talent, Mangas was scoring 20+ points on high efficiency in multiple games Vs Indy Heat. Mangas proved he can score the ball against top competition and I believe he is vastly under-recruited at the moment."

Mangas is about to blow up as a recruit I think. Seems to be the real deal.

there's always some guys who just don't get recruited at the level they produce for whatever reason. i wasn't too impressed w his tapes, but sometimes subtle skills and moves don't show up as well in highlight reels.

1 minute mark. Mangas 1-1 against BGSU recruit Fulcher.
https://www.hometownstations.com/sports/...5326a.html
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(11-08-2020 07:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 04:52 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 12:45 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 01:33 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  
(10-18-2020 11:57 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Boggles doesn't it. Beat Lima Senior with their height and 2-3 DI to be players. Not short at 6'3". If a Ryan Smith and Dakota Mathias can end up at Purdue, Mangas is B10 caliber. "Interest" from Toledo in an insult. Should have had a solid offer.

Here's a Prep Hoops blurb on Mangas from Nov 6
"George Mangas, 6’4 SF Lima Shawnee 2021: Mangas had a huge high school season, helping Shawnee go unbeaten before COVID cancelled the remainder of the playoffs. Mangas continued his tear of a run with a huge summer for NW Ohio at different events in Fort Wayne. Mangas biggest games came against Indy Heat, a squad loaded with high major prospects including Meechie Johnson and Kalen Etzler
. Despite this talent, Mangas was scoring 20+ points on high efficiency in multiple games Vs Indy Heat. Mangas proved he can score the ball against top competition and I believe he is vastly under-recruited at the moment."

Mangas is about to blow up as a recruit I think. Seems to be the real deal.

there's always some guys who just don't get recruited at the level they produce for whatever reason. i wasn't too impressed w his tapes, but sometimes subtle skills and moves don't show up as well in highlight reels.

1 minute mark. Mangas 1-1 against BGSU recruit Fulcher.
https://www.hometownstations.com/sports/...5326a.html

meh, he's just throwing backyard moves, they're fun but a little sloppy, low release on the quick fadeaway jumper. looks pretty when it goes in, but you're thinking "bad shot" every time it doesn't. i thought his move at the 1:45 mark was better.

i mean, he seems like a gamer, but i'm not sold yet, curious cuz some fans are promoting him and he's a nw ohio kid. we're talking about whether ut should offer, right? the staff has recruited him but haven't extended an offer because they are still in the mix for more talented recruits.

the way i see it. mangus doesn't have a single D1 offer. he just got his first small college offer and it's november of his senior year. he's gonna jump all over a UT offer which would likely put a cap on our early recruiting class. so, if we offer that's deciding all the guys we thought were better, who we spent most of our time recruiting, are shifted to the backburner or told there are no more spots in the class. is mangas an overlooked gem? or a guy better off killing it at D3 than getting lost in the mix of a good D1 roster?
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(11-08-2020 11:58 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 07:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 04:52 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 12:45 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 01:33 AM)Sleepy Wrote:  Here's a Prep Hoops blurb on Mangas from Nov 6
"George Mangas, 6’4 SF Lima Shawnee 2021: Mangas had a huge high school season, helping Shawnee go unbeaten before COVID cancelled the remainder of the playoffs. Mangas continued his tear of a run with a huge summer for NW Ohio at different events in Fort Wayne. Mangas biggest games came against Indy Heat, a squad loaded with high major prospects including Meechie Johnson and Kalen Etzler
. Despite this talent, Mangas was scoring 20+ points on high efficiency in multiple games Vs Indy Heat. Mangas proved he can score the ball against top competition and I believe he is vastly under-recruited at the moment."

Mangas is about to blow up as a recruit I think. Seems to be the real deal.

there's always some guys who just don't get recruited at the level they produce for whatever reason. i wasn't too impressed w his tapes, but sometimes subtle skills and moves don't show up as well in highlight reels.

1 minute mark. Mangas 1-1 against BGSU recruit Fulcher.
https://www.hometownstations.com/sports/...5326a.html

meh, he's just throwing backyard moves,

Meh, I'm sure that's what Fulcher was saying as he fell back on his heels. 03-wink
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(11-09-2020 06:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 11:58 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 07:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 04:52 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 12:45 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Mangas is about to blow up as a recruit I think. Seems to be the real deal.

there's always some guys who just don't get recruited at the level they produce for whatever reason. i wasn't too impressed w his tapes, but sometimes subtle skills and moves don't show up as well in highlight reels.

1 minute mark. Mangas 1-1 against BGSU recruit Fulcher.
https://www.hometownstations.com/sports/...5326a.html

meh, he's just throwing backyard moves,

Meh, I'm sure that's what Fulcher was saying as he fell back on his heels. 03-wink

lol
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(11-09-2020 03:46 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 06:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 11:58 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 07:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 04:52 PM)pono Wrote:  there's always some guys who just don't get recruited at the level they produce for whatever reason. i wasn't too impressed w his tapes, but sometimes subtle skills and moves don't show up as well in highlight reels.

1 minute mark. Mangas 1-1 against BGSU recruit Fulcher.
https://www.hometownstations.com/sports/...5326a.html

meh, he's just throwing backyard moves,

Meh, I'm sure that's what Fulcher was saying as he fell back on his heels. 03-wink

lol

I would like to see Fulcher fall back on his heels a lot in his future days at bgsu... Especially playing against our Rockets...04-cheers
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(11-09-2020 04:00 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 03:46 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-09-2020 06:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 11:58 PM)pono Wrote:  
(11-08-2020 07:33 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  1 minute mark. Mangas 1-1 against BGSU recruit Fulcher.
https://www.hometownstations.com/sports/...5326a.html

meh, he's just throwing backyard moves,

Meh, I'm sure that's what Fulcher was saying as he fell back on his heels. 03-wink

lol

I would like to see Fulcher fall back on his heels a lot in his future days at bgsu... Especially playing against our Rockets...04-cheers

Fulcher was a fun kid to watch. That whole Lima Senior squad was fun to watch. But now he's enemy. 05-mafia
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Out of the blue- two new commits to the men's basketball program via the Men's Basketball Twitter, including one from Iceland.
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Under the radar could be literal in Iceland.


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(11-18-2020 04:15 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  Under the radar could be literal in Iceland.



Hmmm...is that last name there Icelandic for "Epperson"?

I mean, it's close enough, right?...if he can play like Kenny did, that would be fine with me...
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https://utrockets.com/news/2020/11/18/me...ntent.aspx

Sounds good. Was hoping for a banger.
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Seriously? A guy from Iceland? Didn’t any of our coaches watch Mighty Ducks? I predict LOTS of technicals. Seriously, welcome, Arnór!
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
Some video of the Icelander. Apparently his name is spelled Arnór Eyþórsson.


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