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A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
after flint 2021 sr owen lobsinger chose western over ut early in the week, news came that big 250 center peyton sparks committed to sign with ball st on friday. sparks first 2 offers were miami and UT. then, over the summer his recruiting really picked up and he got 9 mid major offers in a few weeks time. valpo, hofstra, milwaukee, ball st... don't know much about him or how high he was on UT's board. earlier in the week and a little off the radar S Illinois got commits from a couple 6-5 kids UT offered in 2019 foster wonders and troy d'amico. both were mid major recruits with a lot of offers. wonders should be a solid player, shooter who plays physical, and you gotta love the name. SIU also got a commit from UT offer scottie abebe this july.

not exactly sure what to make of it. UT and SIU are both larger mid major programs that recruit similar talent and footprint, but strange for them to sign 3 UT offers. the other side is coach k offers more recruits than most. he seems to cast a wide net and then zero in on a few of those guys. so far it hasn't worked for 2021. I think lobsinger would have done well at UT. he has a perfectly suited game for the coach k offense. good quick trigger 3 and solid ballhandling and quickness to be versatile at 6-7 (think navigato with a crossover). abebe should be a solid mid major big.

the guy UT is still looking at that most excites me , and I haven't seen video on all the offers, is derrick "mannie" harris, who has a bunch of low major offers along w recent kent, UT, FGCU, and winthrop offers. one of those kids who is suddenly a hot recruit. video reminds me of a young former murray st guard.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/derrick-harris-jr
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
Rockets offered a couple new 2021 kids. jace carter, a pg out of astronaut high school in florida. physical athletic flyer 6-1 combo guard who mostly obliterates really bad competition in his hs video reel. has about 10 low to mid major offers. i'd need to see him against decent comp to really comment. also aj braun, an ohio kid from a catholic school in middleton. 6-8 pf type. good player. not very athletic but good hands, nice feel for the game, anticipates and hustles. got an early offer from ohio after his soph year. in 2020 he's steadily racked up 8 more offers from mostly mid majors, 3 in state-UT, YSU, Wright St.
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(08-05-2020 02:15 AM)pono Wrote:  Rockets offered a couple new 2021 kids. jace carter, a pg out of astronaut high school in florida. physical athletic flyer 6-1 combo guard who mostly obliterates really bad competition in his hs video reel. has about 10 low to mid major offers. i'd need to see him against decent comp to really comment. also aj braun, an ohio kid from a catholic school in middleton. 6-8 pf type. good player. not very athletic but good hands, nice feel for the game, anticipates and hustles. got an early offer from ohio after his soph year. in 2020 he's steadily racked up 8 more offers from mostly mid majors, 3 in state-UT, YSU, Wright St.


I've heard the city/area around Toledo has several quality mid-major recruits with decent size/ability. I would guess UT is heavy after most of them, which might be why they have not pushed hard on some of these early verbals to other schools.

Anybody know who some of these players are ... and who else might be after them. Guessing UT would be 1-2 on most of their lists???
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
The only two I'm know a little bit about are Hornbeak(StF) and Neal(Rogers).
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
Craig at Northview. Jr to be. I don't know if McWhinnie is getting interest at a high level being at a smaller school but he's one of the better floor generals. Coach's kid will do that. Mangas down Lima Shawnee is a scorer against any level.
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(08-07-2020 08:33 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Craig at Northview. Jr to be. I don't know if McWhinnie is getting interest at a high level being at a smaller school but he's one of the better floor generals. Coach's kid will do that. Mangas down Lima Shawnee is a scorer against any level.

They actually retired my jersey at Shawnee. I prefer to think it was due my dominant 2minutes per game performances but someone told me it’s because Jeff Miller, Ohio Player of the Year in 1965, wore it before I. Mangas is the second POY out of Shawnee. Shawnee should be pretty good again if they play this year.
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
Rockets offer a 2021 6-3 guard out of Kentucky named Vinson. Flashy athletic white kid who has a bit of Maravich in his game. Lightly recruited so far but looks like a legit talent to me.
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
Hoops Prospect Rankings for 2021 in NW Ohio by PrepHoops.com
https://www.prephoops.com/ohio/rankings/2021-rankings/

12 - Jamiya Neal 6’6 F Rogers
27 - AJ Adams Findlay 6’4 SF Findlay
47 - Steve Coleman 6’7 F Rogers
53 - Frank Waganfeald 6’7 C Clay
58 - Cliron Hornbeak 6’9 C StFrancis
62 – Gabe Clement 6’2 G Columbus Grove
67 - George Mangas 6’3 SF Lima Shawnee
72 - Owen Nichols 6’7 PF Ottawa-Glandorf
90 – Tayt Birnesser 6’2 G Columbus Grove
100 - Carsten Mayes 6’7 C St Francis
101 Cole McWhinnie 6’1 PG Toledo Christian
105 - Shane Garcia 6’5 SF St John’s
114 - Ross Thompson 6’7 C Cardinal Stritch
117- Chris Strzempka 6’5 PF Findlay
128 - Camron Gaston 5’7 PG Rossford
145 - JR Lumsden 6’3 F Maumee Valley
146 - Feisal Crumby 5’11 G St Francis
153 - Jordan Rawlins 5’7 PG Lima Senior
167 - Trevor Wensink 6’2 G Toledo Christian
169 - Thomas Zsiros 6’3 G St John’s
172 - Jaedyn McKinstry 6’5 F St Joh’s
179 - Tommy Mckinnon 6’1 PG Southview
185 - Grant Pahl 6’1 G Southview
188 - Christian Neal 6’4 F Scott
189 - Jequan Pack 6’0 PG Scott
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
Neal has a UT offer among 10 low-mid major options so far. he's so good beating people to his right that it's kinda hard to see how he translates to college ball. too quick, athletic and polished with his strong hand to be stopped by most HS players. college guys will take some of that away. nice release on his shot, but not known as a shooter. how that evolves will probably determine his ceiling. looks like a legit 6-6.
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Cli'ron Hornbeak, 6-10 St Francis 2021 player who is #58 in Ohio just verballed to Kent. Didn't have a UT offer and was a fairly low profile recruit, but a local kid to watch for in the MAC.
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(08-15-2020 04:32 AM)pono Wrote:  Cli'ron Hornbeak, 6-10 St Francis 2021 player who is #58 in Ohio just verballed to Kent. Didn't have a UT offer and was a fairly low profile recruit, but a local kid to watch for in the MAC.

Looked like a MAC player we see year after year.
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RE: A couple men's basketball recruiting notes
St Francis C Cliron Hornbeak has committed to Kent State per Verbal Commits

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/cli-ron-hornbeak
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(08-15-2020 07:02 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-15-2020 04:32 AM)pono Wrote:  Cli'ron Hornbeak, 6-10 St Francis 2021 player who is #58 in Ohio just verballed to Kent. Didn't have a UT offer and was a fairly low profile recruit, but a local kid to watch for in the MAC.

Looked like a MAC player we see year after year.

Most MAC Bigs aren't designed to fit on every program ... while Knapke was great for UT, don't know if he would have been utilized the same at Buffalo, for example. I think that explains - if you follow MAC recruiting - why all or almost all MAC teams don't recruit the same mid-major post players (in Ohio/Michigan/Indiana), even though all 12 teams would love to have a 6-10, 240-pounder in the middle ... if they fit their program. (Although, I don't think any other MAC team recruited this guy, either ... much like nobody recruited the BG center a few years ago, except BG.)
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Rockets just offered Detroit King rising senior omar ziegler. solid 6-5 kid. haven't seen recent video of him, but this is an on point high school recruiting article featuring his coach in which ziegler is kinda the subtext.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-...518109002/
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(09-02-2020 01:38 AM)pono Wrote:  Rockets just offered Detroit King rising senior omar ziegler. solid 6-5 kid. haven't seen recent video of him, but this is an on point high school recruiting article featuring his coach in which ziegler is kinda the subtext.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-...518109002/

Nice article, I remember those Cooley teams and coach Kelso. Sounds like this would be a program to watch carefully for TK.
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(09-02-2020 09:35 AM)utrocks84 Wrote:  
(09-02-2020 01:38 AM)pono Wrote:  Rockets just offered Detroit King rising senior omar ziegler. solid 6-5 kid. haven't seen recent video of him, but this is an on point high school recruiting article featuring his coach in which ziegler is kinda the subtext.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-...518109002/

Nice article, I remember those Cooley teams and coach Kelso. Sounds like this would be a program to watch carefully for TK.

Right, found some video on Ziegler. Love his intensity. Basically has it all except shooting range. Since he’s a wing that’s probably what’s keeping him from being a big time recruit. The thing is he’s really comfortable with the mid range Jumper, but nobody wants guys taking 18 footers anymore, cuz the analytics. Ziegler looks physically and competitively ready to contribute at D1 already.
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UT offer Sam Vinson, flashy pg out of rural kentucky who was mostly only recruited by northern kentucky until this august when UT and then several others offered has committee to... northern kentucky. from a fan point of view was a kid i hoped we'd sign.
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(09-16-2020 02:21 AM)pono Wrote:  UT offer Sam Vinson, flashy pg out of rural kentucky who was mostly only recruited by northern kentucky until this august when UT and then several others offered has committee to... northern kentucky. from a fan point of view was a kid i hoped we'd sign.

Kid probably wanted to stay close to home...
TK hopefully won’t miss out on some of these tweeters... It’s not like he is going up against Kentucky or Louisville for these guys...
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(09-16-2020 07:18 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 02:21 AM)pono Wrote:  UT offer Sam Vinson, flashy pg out of rural kentucky who was mostly only recruited by northern kentucky until this august when UT and then several others offered has committee to... northern kentucky. from a fan point of view was a kid i hoped we'd sign.

Kid probably wanted to stay close to home...
TK hopefully won’t miss out on some of these tweeters... It’s not like he is going up against Kentucky or Louisville for these guys...

Norhtern Kentucky is a very good program. 2 trips to tourney and one to the NIT in the past four years. They were on they're way to another post season bid this year too.
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