Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Tribe & Current Affairs
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
mrjoolius Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,542
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 87
I Root For: William & Mary
Location: Prince Frederick, MD
Post: #21
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-24-2020 03:53 PM)Tribal Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 03:45 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 03:36 PM)Tribal Wrote:  How about this - carefully remove Confederate statues and sell them. Donate proceeds to various Black charities.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
I can see it now. Some rich guy in Mississippi will have a giant Robert E Lee statue in his front yard.
I considered that, but BLM can use the $10k and old Mr. Robert Whiteman would have to stare at that statue every day realizing his money is in Black hands. You don't see the irony in that?

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
It's the definite one up for the southern biggot. Your neighbor flies the stars and bars? You have a 16ft bronze confederate general.
06-24-2020 04:06 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
WMTRIBE75 Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 786
Joined: Sep 2014
Reputation: 26
I Root For: WILLIAM & MARY
Location:
Post: #22
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-24-2020 03:27 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This topic has me thinking. Laycock is deemed ineligible for the College Football HOF because he's 4% shy of the 60% winning % threshold. Different topic but has me thinking of the vile humans who received and continue to receive that high honor.

Take a look at some of names of various HOF inductees. MLB has some real POS sitting in Canton...Cap Anson, Orlando Cepeda, and Ty Cobb.

If the move is to exclude segregationist, [criminals] and bigots, it's only a matter of time before these honors are removed. [Brackets] because we will never hold felonious activity over someone's head the way we do bigotry or racism.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk

Cooperstown, Tribal, not Canton. Canton is reserved for OJ!!!
06-24-2020 04:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tribe32 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,445
Joined: Aug 2014
Reputation: 33
I Root For: Tribe
Location:
Post: #23
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
Guess what's happening to the Strom Thurmond Center at the University of South Carolina?
06-24-2020 04:40 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mrjoolius Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,542
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 87
I Root For: William & Mary
Location: Prince Frederick, MD
Post: #24
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-24-2020 04:40 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  Guess what's happening to the Strom Thurmond Center at the University of South Carolina?
They're renovating it?
06-24-2020 04:41 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tribal Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 8,713
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 138
I Root For: William & Mary
Location:
Post: #25
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-24-2020 04:41 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 04:40 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  Guess what's happening to the Strom Thurmond Center at the University of South Carolina?
They're renovating it?
Not yet, they need to hire a consulting firm, then another one, then hope for a couple big wig donors to cover the bill.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
06-24-2020 04:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tribe32 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,445
Joined: Aug 2014
Reputation: 33
I Root For: Tribe
Location:
Post: #26
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
No....movement to rename it. It will happen. Miserable human being.
06-24-2020 04:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mrjoolius Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,542
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 87
I Root For: William & Mary
Location: Prince Frederick, MD
Post: #27
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-24-2020 04:44 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  No....movement to rename it. It will happen. Miserable human being.
We knew that was what you meant. We were trying to be funny.
06-24-2020 05:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DSL Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 55
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 3
I Root For: Tribe
Location:
Post: #28
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
I've read numerous comments about the Confederate flag on the boards.
Make sure you know the difference between the Confederate Battle Flag and
the Stars and Bars.

The Battle Flag being carried by the privates in battle.

The Stars and Bars being
the official flag of the CSA representing the Confederate government and the political and economic elite of the South. In other words, the ones most connected to slavery.

You can fly the Stars and Bars all day long and nobody knows what it is.
06-24-2020 06:08 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DSL Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 55
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 3
I Root For: Tribe
Location:
Post: #29
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
Adding to above:
Not saying you should be flying the Stars and Bars.
06-24-2020 08:07 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tribal Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 8,713
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 138
I Root For: William & Mary
Location:
Post: #30
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-24-2020 08:07 PM)DSL Wrote:  Adding to above:
Not saying you should be flying the Stars and Bars.
Ok, glad you said something because I just took mine down; neighbors were giving me the stink eye.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2020 08:18 PM by Tribal.)
06-24-2020 08:17 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DSL Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 55
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 3
I Root For: Tribe
Location:
Post: #31
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
All of my flags have feathers. My neighbors like them.
06-24-2020 08:56 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
bubbadog57 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,696
Joined: Oct 2016
Reputation: 33
I Root For: William & Mary
Location:
Post: #32
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
Think we have some problems: how about Washington & Lee University!

Change the entire school name?
06-25-2020 05:33 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mrjoolius Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,542
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 87
I Root For: William & Mary
Location: Prince Frederick, MD
Post: #33
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-25-2020 05:33 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote:  Think we have some problems: how about Washington & Lee University!

Change the entire school name?
William of Orange's statue is on the hit list in Scotland. Not a huge leap for the push to extend here. Now, I don't think it will come to that, but it wouldn't surprise me if an outlier petition popped up.
06-25-2020 05:57 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tribal Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 8,713
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 138
I Root For: William & Mary
Location:
Post: #34
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-25-2020 05:57 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 05:33 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote:  Think we have some problems: how about Washington & Lee University!

Change the entire school name?
William of Orange's statue is on the hit list in Scotland. Not a huge leap for the push to extend here. Now, I don't think it will come to that, but it wouldn't surprise me if an outlier petition popped up.
"Athletic exclusion was manifest in the early 20th century, when the school forced Rutgers to sit out star African-American football player Paul Robeson for a 1916 football game and later forfeited a 1923 game when Washington and Jefferson refused to comply with a similar demand."

Walter Blake and Carl Linwood Smothers became the first African-American students to graduate from Washington and Lee University in 1972. 

 As of 2014–15, minority students now comprise approximately 16 percent of the undergraduate student body and 24.4 percent of the law school student body. The undergraduate class of 2019 includes 10.5% students of color.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
(This post was last modified: 06-25-2020 07:01 AM by Tribal.)
06-25-2020 07:00 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TDenverFan Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,398
Joined: Aug 2014
Reputation: 21
I Root For: William & Mary
Location: Northern VA
Post: #35
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-24-2020 08:17 AM)Tribal Wrote:  I'm not sure what happened to the Petition to Remove Tribe --> Tribe, Tensions & Tacos thread, but I think we did an excellent job staying close to home, respectful and engaging. I had considered moving it to OT at one point, but decided against it because A) no one complained and B) the topics relating to the thread, whether we like it or not, definitely spill over to W&M.

So, let's talk.

A new petition circulating now. Hollis Mathis wants Names Changed & Take Down the Statues.

William and Mary: W&M: Change the Names, Take Down the Statues - Sign the Petition! https://t.co/x2PDIGP4qY via @Change

Two days after he released that tweet and it has 3 likes - London Jr, mom, and a self-proclaimed black activist; however, over a 1,000 people signed the petition.

As I stated in the other thread, this is where Carl & Michael should've remained focused.

My thoughts are, a committee made up of students, faculty and other stakeholders should reconsider the names on EVERY building and develop a comprehensive list of individuals who positively impacted W&M.

4 US Presidents, notable chemist, philanthropist, scholars, doctors, lawyers, political figures, inventors, military, historical figures, etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...ary_alumni

Give building names a deep cleaning and start over. We don't owe Millington, Blair, Jones, or Ewell a thing (just putting names out there, not suggesting they're on my hit list).

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk


You should buy a lottery ticket today, Tribal

https://www.wm.edu/news/stories/2020/wm-...1q1tuT9mQU
06-25-2020 09:17 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
LeadBolt Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,519
Joined: Apr 2013
Reputation: 51
I Root For: William & Mary
Location: Botetourt County, VA
Post: #36
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
In the immortal words of a congresswoman of color, "Much to do over a hair due"...
06-25-2020 10:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mrjoolius Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,542
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 87
I Root For: William & Mary
Location: Prince Frederick, MD
Post: #37
Tribe & Current Affairs
Work groups mission-
The group will codify principles for a) naming and renaming buildings, spaces or structures and b) developing commemorative/explanatory markers throughout campus. Rowe has asked the group to prepare a preliminary outline of such principles in a report to the president, in advance of the August Board of Visitors retreat.

The university took action in 2015 to remove the most visible manifestations and iconography of the Confederacy from campus, including a Confederate plaque that hung in the hallway of the Wren Building and two emblems on the College Mace carried at William & Mary’s signature events. By early August, the working group will review any others and recommend actions to address, rename or contextualize them.

Based on research by the Lemon Project and in consultation with our historically linked Indigenous communities, the working group will prepare a prioritized list of appropriate new names for any buildings the Board may wish to name as they come online for consideration.

The working group will conduct a comprehensive landscape review to identify additional structures that may be perceived as barriers to a welcoming and inclusive environment. A final report is due to the president by the February 2021 Board meeting.
06-25-2020 11:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DSL Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 55
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 3
I Root For: Tribe
Location:
Post: #38
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
There's little balance (diversity) on the "change the name committee."
How about including one alum from every decade.
And don't choose alums that have connections to W&M insiders and who
would likely rubber stamp anything the insiders decide.

Unfortunately, our Alumni Society is not an independent voice to keep a close eye
on the administration. That's what Alumni Society's are for.
06-25-2020 11:58 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tribe2011 Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 311
Joined: Apr 2015
Reputation: 12
I Root For: W&M
Location:
Post: #39
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-25-2020 11:58 AM)DSL Wrote:  There's little balance (diversity) on the "change the name committee."
How about including one alum from every decade.
And don't choose alums that have connections to W&M insiders and who
would likely rubber stamp anything the insiders decide.

Unfortunately, our Alumni Society is not an independent voice to keep a close eye
on the administration. That's what Alumni Society's are for.

I'm pretty sure Alumni Societies are for raising money.
06-25-2020 12:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
soccerguy315 Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 840
Joined: Apr 2013
Reputation: 13
I Root For: William & Mary
Location:
Post: #40
RE: Tribe & Current Affairs
(06-24-2020 03:53 PM)Tribal Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 03:45 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 03:36 PM)Tribal Wrote:  How about this - carefully remove Confederate statues and sell them. Donate proceeds to various Black charities.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
I can see it now. Some rich guy in Mississippi will have a giant Robert E Lee statue in his front yard.
I considered that, but BLM can use the $10k and old Mr. Robert Whiteman would have to stare at that statue every day realizing his money is in Black hands. You don't see the irony in that?

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk

How much do you think W&M could get for the Lord Botetourt statue?

I am ok with any of the random people that things are named after being removed.

I am not ok with the icons of American history being removed. W&M should not be ashamed of educating presidents.

Guess we will see what happens.
(This post was last modified: 06-25-2020 06:17 PM by soccerguy315.)
06-25-2020 06:11 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2020 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2020 MyBB Group.