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(05-06-2020 09:13 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 08:57 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
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(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

I’m 57 same here. I can remember when a neighbor got an above ground pool and everyone in the neighborhood thought he was rich. I had school clothes and play clothes. When I got home from school I changed and headed out to do chores than play ball or ride bikes.

Play clothes lol ...thanks for the memories

Every boy out there had either iron on or sewed knee patches on your blue jeans ...cuz we would play outside everyday until dinner. Don't be late for dinner! Summer was the best as you would run back outside until dark.

Iron on patches.. that’s right.
I was expected home at 4 for supper with Mom and Dad. I would go back outside And play until the street lights came on. Then I was expected home. Summer was glorious and it seemed to last for 6 months.

We ate about 6pm due to my Dad's job. I hated when friends ate early like you guys. 03-lmfao. I had to go home or find someone else to visit.

You were cool...if your house had all the bikes laying in the front yard.
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(05-06-2020 12:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  We ate about 6pm due to my Dad's job. I hated when friends ate early like you guys. 03-lmfao. I had to go home or find someone else to visit.

You were cool...if your house had all the bikes laying in the front yard.

My Dad was the plant manager about 8 blocks from the house. He got off at 3:30 and was home at 4. I was usually back on the court or field by 4:30 to 5.

My parents own a house with a double lot so our yard doubled as a football field during football season or baseball field during baseball season. (I say own because my Mom still lives there.)

If we weren’t playing ball we were trying to figure out how to put a knot on each other’s head... lol

There was an old pear tree in the backyard of one of the houses on our block. Before the pears ripened one of us would climb the tree and fill a couple of paper sacks with them. Then we would divide up sides and have our own war with pears. If you haven’t been hit in the head or face with a green pear you haven’t lived..lol

Honestly I’m surprised we didn’t kill each other.
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One company that is doomed, Golden Corral, buffets will be a thing of the past. I can't imagine anyone wanting to eat food that dozens of strangers have breathed on, dipped up with utensils dozens of people have handled. Any similar companies will also disappear. Companies that had moved to "Open Office" floorplans are scrambling to reconfigure to accommodate social distancing. I think the company WeWork will be doomed as well, drop in office space shared by multiple companies won't work going forward. Retail shopping won't know final impact until after Christmas holidays, not sure this pandemic will change it too much based on crowds seen at Lowes, Home Depot, etc. who are still open.
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(05-06-2020 11:26 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I work for what I think is a Fortune 300 and I can tell you the open concept office may be going away after this.

The company I work for has already said it's reconfiguring space to eliminate Open Office and promote Social Distancing.
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(05-06-2020 12:55 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 12:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  We ate about 6pm due to my Dad's job. I hated when friends ate early like you guys. 03-lmfao. I had to go home or find someone else to visit.

You were cool...if your house had all the bikes laying in the front yard.

My Dad was the plant manager about 8 blocks from the house. He got off at 3:30 and was home at 4. I was usually back on the court or field by 4:30 to 5.

My parents own a house with a double lot so our yard doubled as a football field during football season or baseball field during baseball season. (I say own because my Mom still lives there.)

If we weren’t playing ball we were trying to figure out how to put a knot on each other’s head... lol

There was an old pear tree in the backyard of one of the houses on our block. Before the pears ripened one of us would climb the tree and fill a couple of paper sacks with them. Then we would divide up sides and have our own war with pears. If you haven’t been hit in the head or face with a green pear you haven’t lived..lol

Honestly I’m surprised we didn’t kill each other.

We had pear trees and did the same thing...they were as hard as SuperBalls. I used to love those... unfortunately I'd lose them just as quick when they flew over a neighborhood house

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(05-05-2020 07:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  What will be the changes this pandemic brings? Long term, I believe there will be changes in retail, office and education.

Retail will be immediate. A number of retailers will collapse, malls will close and shopping will be much more limited in person. The pandemic has gotten people used to ordering online who weren't doing it much before. It will become the norm starting immediately. Job losses in the retail sector will be massive.

Office will have a lot of changes. Some studies have shown people working at home to be less productive, so many companies have been discouraging tele-working. The pandemic has given managers more experience with it, new tools and for workers, an appreciation. Even controlling managers will be forced to be more flexible, not the least due to the lack of company loyalty of Xers and Millenials and the phone permanently glued to hand Generation Z. Companies will focus on less real estate and utility costs. Offices are already gone for all but top execs. Now a lot of offices will go to bullpens with first come, first served cubes. 2 to 4 day weeks in the office will be common with the rest from home. The 9/80 and Fridays off from the 90s have virtually disappeared, but telework will come back with a force.

Education will be much more gradual. Education is a massive bureaucracy. K-12 won't change much. However in higher education, online schools will continue to grow and eventually start to crush small privates and regional publics. The elite privates will be fine. The elite publics won't change much except that those 300 person freshman seminars will probably be online. But the smaller schools will suffer. Legislatures will wonder why they need colleges all over when they can do online classes. So the smaller regional publics will get squeezed and eventually consolidated.

Thoughts?

Retail - This will consolidate. There is still the need to be able to go to the store for basic goods and there is enough demand for people to want to see, touch, and try on items such as clothes and sporting goods. All this will be under one roof (Walmart, Target, etc will start picking up higher end brands as they cannot sustain themselves). Malls are done.

Offices - we'll see. Working from home has been working for some that have an established team. I'd hate to have to hire, train, or build relationships in this paradigm.

Education - nothing will change. K-12 internet school has been by all accounts a disaster. People pay for traditional college for an on campus experience. Nobody is going to pay to do school on the internet other than FT workers that are already doing so. Everyone knows you just don't get anything out of that.
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(05-06-2020 01:23 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  One company that is doomed, Golden Corral, buffets will be a thing of the past. I can't imagine anyone wanting to eat food that dozens of strangers have breathed on, dipped up with utensils dozens of people have handled. Any similar companies will also disappear. Companies that had moved to "Open Office" floorplans are scrambling to reconfigure to accommodate social distancing. I think the company WeWork will be doomed as well, drop in office space shared by multiple companies won't work going forward. Retail shopping won't know final impact until after Christmas holidays, not sure this pandemic will change it too much based on crowds seen at Lowes, Home Depot, etc. who are still open.

Agreed...I think the Chinese buffets will be hit hard.

I don't like the Chinese government but Chinese immigrants over here generally are really hard workers...most of these buffet restaurants are family run places.
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(05-06-2020 09:03 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 08:57 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 08:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

I’m 57 same here. I can remember when a neighbor got an above ground pool and everyone in the neighborhood thought he was rich. I had school clothes and play clothes. When I got home from school I changed and headed out to do chores than play ball or ride bikes.

Play clothes lol ...thanks for the memories

Every boy out there had either iron on or sewed knee patches on your blue jeans ...cuz we would play outside everyday until dinner. Don't be late for dinner! Summer was the best as you would run back outside until dark.

I live in a big subdivision with lots of kids. One thing the shelter in place has done has returned (for the time being) the number of kids I see in the neighborhood riding their bikes, going for a walk, shooting hoops in the driveway and/or playing games in the yard. It is actually nice to see.

Yep, my kids are 11, 4, and 2. The 11 and 4 year olds are learning what a childhood is supposed to be. They have been gone all day everyday doing the same schit we did in the 80s.
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(05-06-2020 02:20 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 01:23 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  One company that is doomed, Golden Corral, buffets will be a thing of the past. I can't imagine anyone wanting to eat food that dozens of strangers have breathed on, dipped up with utensils dozens of people have handled. Any similar companies will also disappear. Companies that had moved to "Open Office" floorplans are scrambling to reconfigure to accommodate social distancing. I think the company WeWork will be doomed as well, drop in office space shared by multiple companies won't work going forward. Retail shopping won't know final impact until after Christmas holidays, not sure this pandemic will change it too much based on crowds seen at Lowes, Home Depot, etc. who are still open.

Agreed...I think the Chinese buffets will be hit hard.

I don't like the Chinese government but Chinese immigrants over here generally are really hard workers...most of these buffet restaurants are family run places.

There's a Chinese buffet near here that is great but I haven't driven by it lately. I suspect they're going to have to change their format to sit down/carry out.

Buffets on cruise ships will be gone too is my guess. That is if cruise ships survive at all, but supposedly Galveston is aiming for cruises by August?
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More socialism

I'm not sure buffets in general will be hit hard. All it takes is one opening & people will learn its not a death sentence

Open floor offices are awful anyways

I thought I saw Carnival is planning for August.
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(05-06-2020 09:03 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 08:57 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 08:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

I’m 57 same here. I can remember when a neighbor got an above ground pool and everyone in the neighborhood thought he was rich. I had school clothes and play clothes. When I got home from school I changed and headed out to do chores than play ball or ride bikes.

Play clothes lol ...thanks for the memories

Every boy out there had either iron on or sewed knee patches on your blue jeans ...cuz we would play outside everyday until dinner. Don't be late for dinner! Summer was the best as you would run back outside until dark.

I live in a big subdivision with lots of kids. One thing the shelter in place has done has returned (for the time being) the number of kids I see in the neighborhood riding their bikes, going for a walk, shooting hoops in the driveway and/or playing games in the yard. It is actually nice to see.

Yep. I've never seen so many kids out in the yard. The parents gardening.

The trails by me were packed of walkers, joggers, bikers, etc. If there's been one positive thing to this, it's that people are going back outside for fun.
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Bunch of the kids in our subdivision have taken up fishing in the lake. Squeezed me out for now. 03-lmfao
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(05-06-2020 04:11 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Bunch of the kids in our subdivision have taken up fishing in the lake. Squeezed me out for now. 03-lmfao

And that is a good thing. Maybe you can show them a trick or two on best fishing techniques
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(05-06-2020 01:24 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(05-06-2020 11:26 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I work for what I think is a Fortune 300 and I can tell you the open concept office may be going away after this.

The company I work for has already said it's reconfiguring space to eliminate Open Office and promote Social Distancing.

My company uses the open space concept. It also said earliest we are going back is September. So......
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