(05-05-2020 08:22 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Airlines and to a lesser extent hotels. Businesses will start to realize the face-time with a client isn’t always necessary. When it is, cars will get you where you need to go. A large chunk of the dollars made by legacy carriers comes from their international routes. As the push to tighten supply chains ramps up those that do travel for business will not being going to Asia. The airlines that invested in wide bodies are going to have some super expensive paperweights.

(05-05-2020 08:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 08:22 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Airlines and to a lesser extent hotels. Businesses will start to realize the face-time with a client isn’t always necessary. When it is, cars will get you where you need to go. A large chunk of the dollars made by legacy carriers comes from their international routes. As the push to tighten supply chains ramps up those that do travel for business will not being going to Asia. The airlines that invested in wide bodies are going to have some super expensive paperweights.

I think you're right there. Businesses will cut travel as well as office space.

(05-05-2020 09:24 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  It's a good time to invest in a really high-tech drive-in movie theater. I went to one in New Braunfels (or near there) a couple of summers ago in Texas and was shocked how pleasant it was, even when it was easily 95 or so during the day. You just need better video and audio, but once that happens, I think they'll do super business in our new social distancing world.

(05-05-2020 09:30 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 08:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 08:22 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Airlines and to a lesser extent hotels. Businesses will start to realize the face-time with a client isn’t always necessary. When it is, cars will get you where you need to go. A large chunk of the dollars made by legacy carriers comes from their international routes. As the push to tighten supply chains ramps up those that do travel for business will not being going to Asia. The airlines that invested in wide bodies are going to have some super expensive paperweights.

I think you're right there. Businesses will cut travel as well as office space.

Regarding office space no. This was predicted with the dot.com era. Employers have no control over employees at home.

(05-05-2020 10:05 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 09:30 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 08:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 08:22 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Airlines and to a lesser extent hotels. Businesses will start to realize the face-time with a client isn’t always necessary. When it is, cars will get you where you need to go. A large chunk of the dollars made by legacy carriers comes from their international routes. As the push to tighten supply chains ramps up those that do travel for business will not being going to Asia. The airlines that invested in wide bodies are going to have some super expensive paperweights.

I think you're right there. Businesses will cut travel as well as office space.

Regarding office space no. This was predicted with the dot.com era. Employers have no control over employees at home.

Maybe the real opportunity here is in generic office space.

Someone walks in to their little office. The systems in the office clock them in and out. Their internet access is secure and logged. Desk, chair, break room, bathroom, big screen for meetings, maybe an electronic white board, etc is all there.

They put all their crap in their computer bag and go home at the end of the day. If they don't need to go to an office the next day they don't. If they need one everyday they lease it. If they need a storage locker or closet, they lease that too.

Commute times shrink. The employee is now in a monitored environment away from distractions. If they go to work remote, they rent the same facility from Claw's Office Franchises in their new work locale.

Investors?

(05-05-2020 07:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  What will be the changes this pandemic brings? Long term, I believe there will be changes in retail, office and education.

Retail will be immediate. A number of retailers will collapse, malls will close and shopping will be much more limited in person. The pandemic has gotten people used to ordering online who weren't doing it much before. It will become the norm starting immediately. Job losses in the retail sector will be massive.

Office will have a lot of changes. Some studies have shown people working at home to be less productive, so many companies have been discouraging tele-working. The pandemic has given managers more experience with it, new tools and for workers, an appreciation. Even controlling managers will be forced to be more flexible, not the least due to the lack of company loyalty of Xers and Millenials and the phone permanently glued to hand Generation Z. Companies will focus on less real estate and utility costs. Offices are already gone for all but top execs. Now a lot of offices will go to bullpens with first come, first served cubes. 2 to 4 day weeks in the office will be common with the rest from home. The 9/80 and Fridays off from the 90s have virtually disappeared, but telework will come back with a force.

Education will be much more gradual. Education is a massive bureaucracy. K-12 won't change much. However in higher education, online schools will continue to grow and eventually start to crush small privates and regional publics. The elite privates will be fine. The elite publics won't change much except that those 300 person freshman seminars will probably be online. But the smaller schools will suffer. Legislatures will wonder why they need colleges all over when they can do online classes. So the smaller regional publics will get squeezed and eventually consolidated.

Thoughts?

(05-06-2020 12:45 AM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  Not much. Tired of this idea that is something humans have never faced before.

(05-05-2020 07:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  What will be the changes this pandemic brings? Long term, I believe there will be changes in retail, office and education.

Retail will be immediate. A number of retailers will collapse, malls will close and shopping will be much more limited in person. The pandemic has gotten people used to ordering online who weren't doing it much before. It will become the norm starting immediately. Job losses in the retail sector will be massive.

Office will have a lot of changes. Some studies have shown people working at home to be less productive, so many companies have been discouraging tele-working. The pandemic has given managers more experience with it, new tools and for workers, an appreciation. Even controlling managers will be forced to be more flexible, not the least due to the lack of company loyalty of Xers and Millenials and the phone permanently glued to hand Generation Z. Companies will focus on less real estate and utility costs. Offices are already gone for all but top execs. Now a lot of offices will go to bullpens with first come, first served cubes. 2 to 4 day weeks in the office will be common with the rest from home. The 9/80 and Fridays off from the 90s have virtually disappeared, but telework will come back with a force.

Education will be much more gradual. Education is a massive bureaucracy. K-12 won't change much. However in higher education, online schools will continue to grow and eventually start to crush small privates and regional publics. The elite privates will be fine. The elite publics won't change much except that those 300 person freshman seminars will probably be online. But the smaller schools will suffer. Legislatures will wonder why they need colleges all over when they can do online classes. So the smaller regional publics will get squeezed and eventually consolidated.

Thoughts?

(05-06-2020 05:36 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  People will wear face masks at work and learn to bow like they do in Asia instead of shaking hands.

(05-06-2020 06:23 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  My employer already sent the email on Monday that they will be bringing in The Bob’s to “optimize” our organization going forward. I wanted to send the CEO an email to tell him “ Good luck with your layoffs, all right? I hope your firings go really well.”