1. Amazon, online shopping, Kroger click list

2. my boss wont require anyone to wear a mask. We've been operating the same way thru this entire thing as we did before other than a few people use hand sanitizer more

3. already graduated, so no need for school


Looks like I am good. I can still hang out w/ family and close friends at each other's homes. Cook out and enjoy cold beer on the patio, hit the pool all summer and not worrying about any of it much. No masks required any of those places.

(05-06-2020 07:58 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  1. Amazon, online shopping, Kroger click list

2. my boss wont require anyone to wear a mask. We've been operating the same way thru this entire thing as we did before other than a few people use hand sanitizer more

3. already graduated, so no need for school


Looks like I am good. I can still hang out w/ family and close friends at each other's homes. Cook out and enjoy cold beer on the patio, hit the pool all summer and not worrying about any of it much. No masks required any of those places.

I do pine for you guys.....this is the purest form of 'dick tricklin' economics'....

Right now I see people at Kroger filling customers pick up orders. The success of that process will lead to robots that do the picking. It may take a while.

I work from home for a company that leads the industry in creating technology to allow massive companies to move their contact center employees home, if need be. It's happening already.

My son actually is enjoying it. He said he is more productive as the office queep is nil and the "Time Vampires" don't come around to chit chat for 20 mins when they are bored.

Our offices in the bigger cities were already only 50% utilized before this happened. We were moving towards encouraging telecommuting already.

(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

I’m 57 same here. I can remember when a neighbor got an above ground pool and everyone in the neighborhood thought he was rich. I had school clothes and play clothes. When I got home from school I changed and headed out to do chores than play ball or ride bikes.

One thing I hope we see change is something I always noticed while traveling in Asia. When the Japanese or Koreans are ill, they wear a mask. Airport, restaurant, train, cab or plane. When they are in public with a cold they wear a mask.

(05-06-2020 08:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

I’m 57 same here. I can remember when a neighbor got an above ground pool and everyone in the neighborhood thought he was rich. I had school clothes and play clothes. When I got home from school I changed and headed out to do chores than play ball or ride bikes.

Play clothes lol ...thanks for the memories

Every boy out there had either iron on or sewed knee patches on your blue jeans ...cuz we would play outside everyday until dinner. Don't be late for dinner! Summer was the best as you would run back outside until dark.

(05-06-2020 08:57 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 08:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

I’m 57 same here. I can remember when a neighbor got an above ground pool and everyone in the neighborhood thought he was rich. I had school clothes and play clothes. When I got home from school I changed and headed out to do chores than play ball or ride bikes.

Play clothes lol ...thanks for the memories

Every boy out there had either iron on or sewed knee patches on your blue jeans ...cuz we would play outside everyday until dinner. Don't be late for dinner! Summer was the best as you would run back outside until dark.

I live in a big subdivision with lots of kids. One thing the shelter in place has done has returned (for the time being) the number of kids I see in the neighborhood riding their bikes, going for a walk, shooting hoops in the driveway and/or playing games in the yard. It is actually nice to see.

(05-05-2020 10:20 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 10:05 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 09:30 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 08:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 08:22 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Airlines and to a lesser extent hotels. Businesses will start to realize the face-time with a client isn’t always necessary. When it is, cars will get you where you need to go. A large chunk of the dollars made by legacy carriers comes from their international routes. As the push to tighten supply chains ramps up those that do travel for business will not being going to Asia. The airlines that invested in wide bodies are going to have some super expensive paperweights.

I think you're right there. Businesses will cut travel as well as office space.

Regarding office space no. This was predicted with the dot.com era. Employers have no control over employees at home.

Maybe the real opportunity here is in generic office space.

Someone walks in to their little office. The systems in the office clock them in and out. Their internet access is secure and logged. Desk, chair, break room, bathroom, big screen for meetings, maybe an electronic white board, etc is all there.

They put all their crap in their computer bag and go home at the end of the day. If they don't need to go to an office the next day they don't. If they need one everyday they lease it. If they need a storage locker or closet, they lease that too.

Commute times shrink. The employee is now in a monitored environment away from distractions. If they go to work remote, they rent the same facility from Claw's Office Franchises in their new work locale.

Investors?

Already done. That was the dot.com. hotel tele commute thing. People need human interaction with goal oriented teams. The entire interaction human collaboration model doesn't work and will never work if you don't interact with humans daily. Why exist then? The entire purpose of life is human interaction on a daily basis.

Have you seen a college student in the last 5 years?

Standing/Walking side by side staring at their phone paying no attention to each other. Sometimes its a computer instead of a phone.

(05-06-2020 08:57 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 08:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

I’m 57 same here. I can remember when a neighbor got an above ground pool and everyone in the neighborhood thought he was rich. I had school clothes and play clothes. When I got home from school I changed and headed out to do chores than play ball or ride bikes.

Play clothes lol ...thanks for the memories

Every boy out there had either iron on or sewed knee patches on your blue jeans ...cuz we would play outside everyday until dinner. Don't be late for dinner! Summer was the best as you would run back outside until dark.

Iron on patches.. that’s right.
I was expected home at 4 for supper with Mom and Dad. I would go back outside And play until the street lights came on. Then I was expected home. Summer was glorious and it seemed to last for 6 months.

(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 12:45 AM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  Not much. Tired of this idea that is something humans have never faced before.

Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

There's a reason all those houses built in the 60s/early 70s and before have what we now consider tiny closets.

(05-06-2020 09:03 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 08:57 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 08:50 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-06-2020 01:19 AM)banker Wrote:  Bravo to this. It's something about people today that they long to be part of some great struggle. My thought is that life is so easy now that they have to exaggerate issues in order to feel like they've accomplished something. When you call people heroes for staying home and laying on their couch you know you have jumped the shark on the definition of a hero.

I'm only 55, which I don't consider all that old. Like almost everyone my age, I remember having one car in the family, no air conditioning, one black and white TV in the house, only getting new clothes at the start of the school year, never eating out. People nowadays call that living in poverty, but we were very middle class. The whole view of what real hardship is has pretty much disappeared for most Americans.

I’m 57 same here. I can remember when a neighbor got an above ground pool and everyone in the neighborhood thought he was rich. I had school clothes and play clothes. When I got home from school I changed and headed out to do chores than play ball or ride bikes.

Play clothes lol ...thanks for the memories

Every boy out there had either iron on or sewed knee patches on your blue jeans ...cuz we would play outside everyday until dinner. Don't be late for dinner! Summer was the best as you would run back outside until dark.

I live in a big subdivision with lots of kids. One thing the shelter in place has done has returned (for the time being) the number of kids I see in the neighborhood riding their bikes, going for a walk, shooting hoops in the driveway and/or playing games in the yard. It is actually nice to see.

I was talking to my fiancé about this same thing. To actually see kids outside playing in the neighborhood is a good thing. We can hear them since we have the windows up enjoying the breeze.

I can't name the companies for obvious reasons... but in the past several weeks, I personally have drawn up contracts for about a dozen MAJOR (some Fortune 100, some not) companies to get set up with the capability to move THOUSANDS of their employees to home offices.

(05-06-2020 09:37 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I can't name the companies for obvious reasons... but in the past several weeks, I personally have drawn up contracts for about a dozen MAJOR (some Fortune 100, some not) companies to get set up with the capability to move THOUSANDS of their employees to home offices.

once that standard is developed as best method, the book will be written relative to who/what is or not essential...

what's the next move...

I designed and developed ENG/datA standards for 20+... and that was for a custom hvac company that went 'private>>>YRK>>>JCI... 5 yrs. b4 I got bored as they fired the non....

the latter became the UNCLE cooled finga...boredom and dipshites is nothing I could withstand mentally...

start thinking about the next move...it only took me, two programmers, and a PE to change a service center to profit center w/0 labor burdening....

#goodLuck

Toughskins jeans and the Winner tennis shoes - the finest that Sears (grandma's discount) had to offer back in the 70s and early 80s

(05-06-2020 09:03 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  One thing the shelter in place has done has returned (for the time being) the number of kids I see in the neighborhood riding their bikes, going for a walk, shooting hoops in the driveway and/or playing games in the yard. It is actually nice to see.

I mentioned to a friend that I've turned into more of an "80's mom" during all this. I've sent my 10 year old son out on a bike ride & basically said "go, have fun, stay off ______ (the street with more crazy traffic in our area), watch for cars." I love that this is affording him a little more independence that we wouldn't have had time for with other commitments before.

I work for what I think is a Fortune 300 and I can tell you the open concept office may be going away after this.

(05-06-2020 08:25 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son actually is enjoying it. He said he is more productive as the office queep is nil and the "Time Vampires" don't come around to chit chat for 20 mins when they are bored.

I'm thoroughly enjoying working from home. My job will require some in-person meetings/presence in the office when other industries get back to normal, but I'm hoping this will allow more flexibility in the future for us if we have nothing scheduled on site for the day, etc.