If Mike leaves, then go after Billy Napier at ULL.

(12-03-2019 09:23 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:23 PM)danny1 Wrote:  Love Coach Silverfield. Great guy, great coach, great recruiter. My only question - has he been a full fledged coordinator? I don’t know what an assistant head coach or deputy head coach do in terms of responsibilities.

If he has enough experience that translates, my choice would be Silverfield or Chip Long. That said, I trust our president, AD, and others to make another great hire. Hope Mike stays!

He is the current offensive coordinator. We don't think of him that way, because Norvell is the play caller. But Norvell says to make no mistake - Silverfield is the coordinator.

But I get what you're saying. At the same time, I believe Fuente came to us with a similar background. He was co-OC at TCU, but Patterson called the plays.

Kevin Johns is the OC
Silverfield is the "Run Game Coordinator"
Not quite the same thing.

(12-04-2019 09:54 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 09:23 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:23 PM)danny1 Wrote:  Love Coach Silverfield. Great guy, great coach, great recruiter. My only question - has he been a full fledged coordinator? I don’t know what an assistant head coach or deputy head coach do in terms of responsibilities.

If he has enough experience that translates, my choice would be Silverfield or Chip Long. That said, I trust our president, AD, and others to make another great hire. Hope Mike stays!

He is the current offensive coordinator. We don't think of him that way, because Norvell is the play caller. But Norvell says to make no mistake - Silverfield is the coordinator.

But I get what you're saying. At the same time, I believe Fuente came to us with a similar background. He was co-OC at TCU, but Patterson called the plays.

Kevin Johns is the OC
Silverfield is the "Run Game Coordinator"
Not quite the same thing.

Weird that it was changed from Co-Offensive Coordinator to Run Coordinator. It said Co-Offensive Coordinator yesterday and still says it on Silverfield's twitter account.

University of Memphis — Offensive Line Coach / Co-Offensive Coordinator / Deputy Head Coach / NFL coach for 7 years

(12-02-2019 10:16 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:29 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  It just rarely seems to work out well when team hires from within...

The current head coaches at Ohio State, LSU, Oklahoma and Utah seem to be working out okay. All were internal hires I believe.

Clemson, too, I believe.

(12-03-2019 09:37 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 02:00 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:12 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:28 PM)MvETigers Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:23 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  His name keeps coming up but I hope we do the full search with the same firm that helped with Fuente and Norvell. He may still be the leading candidate, but let's do the search anyway.

Search firm didn't pick Norvell. It didn't pick Fuente either, he was just on the list.

Search firms don't pick people, they just expose those who are looking for new positions (under the radar) and can make recommendations. The final decision is always with the employer who conducts the job interview.

Yep, you would think that would be apparent, but I guess it needs to be pointed out.

Agree. Not sure why some are so insistent there was no firm. It's well documented. And they do the identification and contact. Decisions are made locally. Bowen had Norvell's name on his list. Both he and Norvell have said so. But he was also on the firm's list.

When we say "stick to the same process that got us Fuente and Norvell", it's not a total outsource to a firm. It's a combo of the firm and the local players.

Search firms can serve the purpose of middle men if you want to minimize the leaking and perceived credibility of specific identifications, which increases when administrations, and boards, start getting active. Plausible deniability and such.

I am not a fan of hiring a person to keep players on the team, but I would imagine Ryan has a good rapport with Brady and perhaps keeping Ryan means we get another year of Brady with Kenny, Coxie, and a seven or so other starters.

(12-02-2019 10:16 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:29 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  It just rarely seems to work out well when team hires from within...

The current head coaches at Ohio State, LSU, Oklahoma and Utah seem to be working out okay. All were internal hires I believe.

Dabo at Clemson. Hell, the 3 top ranked teams in the country right now (and 5 of the top 6) hired from within.

(12-03-2019 01:48 PM)lifelongtiger Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 11:09 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 09:48 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 09:39 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 09:37 AM)mairving Wrote:  Florida State wanted to have a new coach in place by December. They appear to be waiting for someone to finish out the season before they make their hire.

I heard they were announcing this week. If so, I don’t think it will be CMN.

We'll see. The consensus on Norvell with the majority of FSU fans is that he's not any better than Taggart.

According to calkins fsu already has the stage setup for the announcement. I think they will announce norvell on Sunday and he most likely wouldn't coach the cotton bowl especially if its against Florida.
What do yall think about app states coach?

There's always the possibility that the Cotton Bowl doesn't even happen. My battered fan syndrome makes me think that tanking the conf championship is a possibility, then coaching the bowl game really isn't that important to the fan base. We've seen coaches tank before leaving in the past, football and bball. Now that can never be proven but if preparation time takes a hit due to negotiations with FSU then in my book that is tanking.

I don't buy anybody tanking, but Cincy might just flat out beat us if we don't play a really good game.

(12-04-2019 10:33 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  I am not a fan of hiring a person to keep players on the team, but I would imagine Ryan has a good rapport with Brady and perhaps keeping Ryan means we get another year of Brady with Kenny, Coxie, and a seven or so other starters.

Norvell has built a winning culture. I'm fine with hiring from within with someone who understands and has been a part of that culture unless there is an outside candidate who is obviously the better choice.

After Porter you HAD to hire from outside. This situation is different.

(12-04-2019 11:05 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 10:16 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:29 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  It just rarely seems to work out well when team hires from within...

The current head coaches at Ohio State, LSU, Oklahoma and Utah seem to be working out okay. All were internal hires I believe.

Dabo at Clemson. Hell, the 3 top ranked teams in the country right now (and 5 of the top 6) hired from within.

dont bore these maroons with facts

I just hope that whoever they hire keeps the same offensive that we've been running under CMN. There are plenty of great options for Memphis to hire that can keep this train rolling. We are not a rebuild program.
I'm all for hiring from the current staff if there's a talented person there who is ready to take the program to the next level. I'm sure the players would be appreciative of a familiar face. I wonder how many coaches will go with CMN and who would stay with the new staff? I guess we'll see how all that plays out in the next few weeks.

PS- FSU has like 18 commitments already, lots of 4 stars including a quarterback. If Mike is going there, he will do great.

Ryan Silverfield I think is the best recruiter on staff.

(12-04-2019 11:45 AM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  Ryan Silverfield I think is the best recruiter on staff.

And has been preordained to follow MN by MN and Rudd and some of the top boosters that picked MN

(12-04-2019 11:49 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 11:45 AM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  Ryan Silverfield I think is the best recruiter on staff.

And has been preordained to follow MN by MN and Rudd and some of the top boosters that picked MN

well there you go.

(12-04-2019 11:49 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 11:45 AM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  Ryan Silverfield I think is the best recruiter on staff.

And has been preordained to follow MN by MN and Rudd and some of the top boosters that picked MN

I hope that's the case. Keep the ball rolling.

1) We will need a Interim HC if a new HC is not named immediately
2) Hopefully we will move forward with a immediate HC from the existing set of coaches
3) RS is the obvious choice, he has been with MN since Arizona State, spent 7 years in the NFL w Detroit and Vikings.
4) Last year RS sat across from the table with Nick Saban and Alabama offered him the OL job, he turned it down he also was approached by the Titans HC about their opening
5) RS has a lot of people behind him, a few of the top guys
6) RS hopes he gets it, but RS does not know as of last week if he is getting it
7) RS is not aware it has been pre ordained

(12-04-2019 10:15 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 09:54 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 09:23 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:23 PM)danny1 Wrote:  Love Coach Silverfield. Great guy, great coach, great recruiter. My only question - has he been a full fledged coordinator? I don’t know what an assistant head coach or deputy head coach do in terms of responsibilities.

If he has enough experience that translates, my choice would be Silverfield or Chip Long. That said, I trust our president, AD, and others to make another great hire. Hope Mike stays!

He is the current offensive coordinator. We don't think of him that way, because Norvell is the play caller. But Norvell says to make no mistake - Silverfield is the coordinator.

But I get what you're saying. At the same time, I believe Fuente came to us with a similar background. He was co-OC at TCU, but Patterson called the plays.

Kevin Johns is the OC
Silverfield is the "Run Game Coordinator"
Not quite the same thing.

Weird that it was changed from Co-Offensive Coordinator to Run Coordinator. It said Co-Offensive Coordinator yesterday and still says it on Silverfield's twitter account.

University of Memphis — Offensive Line Coach / Co-Offensive Coordinator / Deputy Head Coach / NFL coach for 7 years

Just FYI: Titles like these are used to get more money for the coach to keep them - nothing more -to get more money you need more titles

(12-03-2019 09:37 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 02:00 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:12 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:28 PM)MvETigers Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:23 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  His name keeps coming up but I hope we do the full search with the same firm that helped with Fuente and Norvell. He may still be the leading candidate, but let's do the search anyway.

Search firm didn't pick Norvell. It didn't pick Fuente either, he was just on the list.

Search firms don't pick people, they just expose those who are looking for new positions (under the radar) and can make recommendations. The final decision is always with the employer who conducts the job interview.

Yep, you would think that would be apparent, but I guess it needs to be pointed out.

Agree. Not sure why some are so insistent there was no firm. It's well documented. And they do the identification and contact. Decisions are made locally. Bowen had Norvell's name on his list. Both he and Norvell have said so. But he was also on the firm's list.

When we say "stick to the same process that got us Fuente and Norvell", it's not a total outsource to a firm. It's a combo of the firm and the local players.

Tom Bowen to me:

1) Search firms are always used to hide all information they do not want the public in general to know and more importantly the back ground checks. They can also play a key role in the candidates if the university doesn't already have a potential hire in place.
2) TB knew he wanted Norvell even before talking to Missouri HC - DC at the time
3) Fuente had taken his entire offensive staff out to spend time with Norvell to learn more about the offensive side of the ball. Hence Tom making MN is main target
4) An offer had to be made to Missouri DC - knowing he would turn it down because it was the first offer and Missouri would counter in some way
5) Memphis then was already in contact and working with MN, MN had not idea he was the main target all along. MN and I spoke about this and laughed about this afterwards.
6) Memphis low balled the follow up offer to Missouri guy on purpose knowing he would turn it down
7) Memphis hired Norvell

Rest is history, firm was only used in this case to do background work and potential candidates if top guys didn't take the job

That is the real story. Confirmed by TB and MN to me.

(12-02-2019 08:29 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  It just rarely seems to work out well when team hires from within...

Tommy West did ok.

(12-04-2019 01:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:29 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  It just rarely seems to work out well when team hires from within...

Tommy West did ok.

Cannot tell if you are being facetious or not but he was 49-61 at Memphis...