Why are you so Stupid?

(12-05-2019 06:18 PM)memphisike Wrote:  And u wonder why the Dude is leaving
Puts a great product on the field and Memphians can't fill the liberty bowl for the championship game
UNBELIEVABLE

5k more fans let game ain’t keeping a coach from leaving for an FSU level job. The whole inferiority complex we have regarding attendance is absurd. Just enjoy the damn ride and invite friends and family to jump on the wagon. The absurd amount of hand wringing over attendance isn’t helpful. We certainly aren’t going to shame folks into being better fans.

Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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Why are they so Stupid?

It's time to make THE CALL.

The call to Fred Smith. And have FedEx make an emergency ticket buy of say 10K. Then have all those FedEx folks get out to the game on Saturday. Do it Fred, the Tigers need you to step up once again.
lol.(sorta)

People aren't going to games like they used to. That's all sports, college and pro. Almost every game is on TV or streaming now and the younger generation is more glued to their phones than to go watch a game. That being said, it sure would be nice if we had a 42-45k seat stadium on campus. Our crowds would look amazing there.

Why are we not doing the $9.01 tickets? $20 tickets assures you will sell 20k less tickets. It’s Memphis. It is what it is.

(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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College football attendance has dropped for the last 8 years. Our attendance is increasing.

Re Florida State, they have had attendance problems this decade, hitting a 32 year low this season:

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports...213208002/

"It also concluded the worst attended football season for the FSU program since 1987.

The Seminoles had an average attendance of 54,019 over seven home games this season . . .

FSU averaged 53,676 fans per game during the 1987 season when Doak Campbell Stadium's capacity was 60,519. The current capacity is 79,560.

This is the first season since 1992 that FSU has had multiple games with an attendance under 65,000 fans when stadium capacity was 70,123.

FSU did not reach that mark once in 2019."

(12-06-2019 08:56 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Why are we not doing the $9.01 tickets? $20 tickets assures you will sell 20k less tickets. It’s Memphis. It is what it is.

The conference sets the prices, we could not do any deals, not totally run by our athletic dept. like a normal home game

(12-06-2019 08:57 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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College football attendance has dropped for the last 8 years. Our attendance is increasing.

Re Florida State, they have had attendance problems this decade, hitting a 32 year low this season:

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports...213208002/

"It also concluded the worst attended football season for the FSU program since 1987.

The Seminoles had an average attendance of 54,019 over seven home games this season . . .

FSU averaged 53,676 fans per game during the 1987 season when Doak Campbell Stadium's capacity was 60,519. The current capacity is 79,560.

This is the first season since 1992 that FSU has had multiple games with an attendance under 65,000 fans when stadium capacity was 70,123.

FSU did not reach that mark once in 2019."

We need those people doing our attendance numbers! Lol

I always believed if Memphis ever got things rolling we would easily get average $45k+ at home games and pack the stadium if we ever had the chance to host a Conference Championship Game.

Well, we have things rolling and barring a huge ticket push today or walk ups on Sat. we are looking 10,000 empty seats. Wish the Liberty Bowl had never expanded capacity in 1987 and it still seated only 52,000.

(12-06-2019 08:57 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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College football attendance has dropped for the last 8 years. Our attendance is increasing.

Re Florida State, they have had attendance problems this decade, hitting a 32 year low this season:

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports...213208002/

"It also concluded the worst attended football season for the FSU program since 1987.

The Seminoles had an average attendance of 54,019 over seven home games this season . . .

FSU averaged 53,676 fans per game during the 1987 season when Doak Campbell Stadium's capacity was 60,519. The current capacity is 79,560.

This is the first season since 1992 that FSU has had multiple games with an attendance under 65,000 fans when stadium capacity was 70,123.

FSU did not reach that mark once in 2019."

Good point. FSU had their worst attendance in 32 years at 54k. Hmmmm...shame on them for not reaching capacity. If only they had a big booster or fire sale tickets to bail them out. Or was it “just Tallahassee”? Or the decline of attendance everywhere? Or the inter webs broadcasting every game?

I would bet dollars to Gibson’s Donuts that as soon as they are enthused again and the product is successfully led by a guy that can do wonders on the field, (not having to shill for tix to be purchased) the attendance is at capacity without even having to beg nicely?


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(12-06-2019 09:48 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-06-2019 08:57 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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College football attendance has dropped for the last 8 years. Our attendance is increasing.

Re Florida State, they have had attendance problems this decade, hitting a 32 year low this season:

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports...213208002/

"It also concluded the worst attended football season for the FSU program since 1987.

The Seminoles had an average attendance of 54,019 over seven home games this season . . .

FSU averaged 53,676 fans per game during the 1987 season when Doak Campbell Stadium's capacity was 60,519. The current capacity is 79,560.

This is the first season since 1992 that FSU has had multiple games with an attendance under 65,000 fans when stadium capacity was 70,123.

FSU did not reach that mark once in 2019."

Good point. FSU had their worst attendance in 32 years at 54k. Hmmmm...shame on them for not reaching capacity. If only they had a big booster or fire sale tickets to bail them out. Or was it “just Tallahassee”? Or the decline of attendance everywhere? Or the inter webs broadcasting every game?

I would bet dollars to Gibson’s Donuts that as soon as they are enthused again and the product is successfully led by a guy that can do wonders on the field, (not having to shill for tix to be purchased) the attendance is at capacity without even having to beg nicely?

Not sure your point. Mine was I don't think our attendance vis-a-vis Florida State's football attendance has anything to do with Norvell's decision. Fact is all the Florida's schools have trouble with attendance. Miami has half empty stadiums. Florida lost 6,000 season tickets holders the first year Mullen was there.

(12-06-2019 08:42 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  People aren't going to games like they used to. That's all sports, college and pro. Almost every game is on TV or streaming now and the younger generation is more glued to their phones than to go watch a game. That being said, it sure would be nice if we had a 42-45k seat stadium on campus. Our crowds would look amazing there.

Agree 1000% on the on campus 45k seat stadium. I love the LB, I think it is terrific, but we need a more intimate setting. I am the first to concede that we are just not going to avg 50k+, we can’t compete at that level. But we should be easily at the top 3 of this crappy conference permanently without batting an eye.


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(12-06-2019 08:38 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  It's time to make THE CALL.

The call to Fred Smith. And have FedEx make an emergency ticket buy of say 10K. Then have all those FedEx folks get out to the game on Saturday. Do it Fred, the Tigers need you to step up once again.
lol.(sorta)

A phone call and then a snap decision to spend $500,000? Why? Because our fans won't buy tickets to what could be the most important game in our history?

It might happen again, but as things stand, this is literally a once in a lifetime event for Memphians.

(12-06-2019 08:57 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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College football attendance has dropped for the last 8 years. Our attendance is increasing.

Re Florida State, they have had attendance problems this decade, hitting a 32 year low this season:

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports...213208002/

"It also concluded the worst attended football season for the FSU program since 1987.

The Seminoles had an average attendance of 54,019 over seven home games this season . . .

FSU averaged 53,676 fans per game during the 1987 season when Doak Campbell Stadium's capacity was 60,519. The current capacity is 79,560.

This is the first season since 1992 that FSU has had multiple games with an attendance under 65,000 fans when stadium capacity was 70,123.

FSU did not reach that mark once in 2019."

Also keeping in mind that Florida State undoubtedly goes by tickets sold and then adds a few thousand to arrive at announced attendance. This is a lucky guess on my part, since every single program in the country does this...except us.

If they are announcing 54k, actual attendance is probably no more than 45k.

For their game against Syracuse, they announced 50,517 with a capacity of 79,560. If you look at the crowd shots at the 2:03 and 10:04 marks, you can see that the stadium is less than half full. It is disgusting that we are announcing an average of 40k this year. Any other program would be calling it at least 45-46k with the attendance we have had.

Syracuse At Florida State

And another crowd shot.

Syracuse At Florida State

(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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Wrong. We are losing our coach because he is going to be offered more $, a Top 10 job, and a chance to win a national championship. Doesn't matter if 10,000 or 100,000 show up Saturday, Memphis cannot offer any of those things.

(12-06-2019 10:17 AM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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Wrong. We are losing our coach because he is going to be offered more $, a Top 10 job, and a chance to win a national championship. Doesn't matter if 10,000 or 100,000 show up Saturday, Memphis cannot offer any of those things.

“In part”


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(12-06-2019 10:17 AM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 11:53 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Last week it was Thanksgiving, shopping, traveling, etc.. what reason is there this week? This struggle for fan support is troubling. Nobody wants to hear it, but why should our Coach and players and administrators have to become carnival hawkers just to get people to come to a game that could be our biggest ever? Beautiful Saturday otherwise, I sincerely hope for a large walk up crowd as well as a surge late. Undoubtedly we will hear now that the talk of our Coach leaving affected this negatively but I would assert that this, in part, is why we may lose our Coach. JMO


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Wrong. We are losing our coach because he is going to be offered more $,

Nope, and I dont know why anyone thinks this after Calipari and Fuente.

Quote: a Top 10 job,

questionable, but I'll allow it.

Quote:and a chance to win a national championship. Doesn't matter if 10,000 or 100,000 show up Saturday, Memphis cannot offer any of those things.

A national championship? Maybe, for FSU. But thats about it.

But Memphis has not been "outbid" when it has come to coaches they wanted to retain. Both Calipari and Fuente left for LESS money, not more.

(12-06-2019 08:42 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  People aren't going to games like they used to. That's all sports, college and pro. Almost every game is on TV or streaming now and the younger generation is more glued to their phones than to go watch a game. That being said, it sure would be nice if we had a 42-45k seat stadium on campus. Our crowds would look amazing there.

If this were the case, yes, the game would be a complete sellout and people would be clamoring for tickets. I'm still amazed at how the city went out and spent major dollars to add 16,000 additional seats to the LB thinking that it would bring an NFL team to Memphis, when in reality it was an NFL pipe dream to begin with. Oh well, is what it is, and I think there'll still be a big crowd for the game come Saturday.