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Seriously, what is wrong with you?

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Your opinion means nothing to me. Shameful post. My opinion is that you should STFU.

As an athlete, and the parent of two athletes, those walks out onto the field/diamond/court with the families were some of the best moments of my life. I'll never forget those, and neither should anyone else. We are blessed to be able to watch freshmen come in every year and seniors walk out with their parents/families. This is what being a fan of a collegiate sports is all about.

It was the first game, in a long while, where we did not look like we belonged on the same field with our (FCS level) opponent.
I have said that both coaches get a "pass" on this year's performances (Dane looks like he might not need his...), but I hope to never see us look that totally beaten again, on both sides of the ball, anytime soon.

Side Note: bubbadog57, apparently you need to go back and read my Rules to Follow before Posting. Several of those rules would have stopped you from making that ridiculous post, had you followed them.

I have to think that bubbadog57 could not have meant his comment to sound as callous as it came across. I assume he means that this senior class did not leave a significant mark on the history of Tribe football, which we all can debate.

But I'd love for him to come on here and clarify the record in that regard. I think we all can agree that we miss any student athlete who wore the Green and Gold.

Well bubbadog, can’t really add to what others have said regarding your post, except to ask, would you have the courage to voice this opinion in person. In my time I have read posts that make me scratch my head and wonder what that poster might be thinking. It’s usually regarding comments made on strategy or philosophy of play. But this post, reflects a complete lack of class, I bet you felt really relevant when you clicked post reply. You are a keyboard hero, congrats.

I like what Tribe4SF said STFU. Your opinion is yours and you are entitled to it, but it reflects how ignorant you are regarding the program, the sport and most importantly this group of guys.

Honestly, I'm still pissed today after that game. I only stuck around in the second half because it was senior day. I know some people may not agree but I liked that our players we're still showing a lot of fight right up until the very end. Can't let Towson bully us off the field in our last home game.

As for the actual game, I still don't understand the purpose of our soft zone coverage. It seems like all it does is allow one back breaking 3rd down conversion after another. When our defense isn't forcing turnovers this season, it's been a long day. Which is a shame because our personnel is better than that. On offense we need to make teams respect the pass. Towson was playing a cover zero most of the game yesterday and just stacking the box. I like Mathis a lot and think he'll be great but there needs to be an emphasis on going through his read progression. He missed throwing to quite a few open receivers yesterday simply because he never even looked to them.

Finally I hope it is also that officiating crew's last game. That was a total mess and it's fortunate it didn't end in a serious fight or injury.

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I'm taking the high road, Big Bubba Dog. Just know that this is your only warning - if you attack a student-athlete again, I won't hit the ban button fast enough.

Somewhat related if I may: Our student-athletes owe us nothing. Most of them are 18-21 and, remarkably, find a way to balance schoolwork, D1 athletics, and maybe some semblance of a personal life. 99% of them are exceedingly good at this and deserve our praise, not attacks. I'm beyond thankful for all of them and immensely proud to call them my Tribe family.



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(11-17-2019 10:38 AM)zablenoise Wrote:  As for the actual game, I still don't understand the purpose of our soft zone coverage. It seems like all it does is allow one back breaking 3rd down conversion after another. When our defense isn't forcing turnovers this season, it's been a long day.

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It is essentially a strategy to not get beat over the top. The approach works well if we get pressure and/or the QB doesn't have an accurate arm. Look at Rhode Island for example. Problem is that Flacco just carved us up with short and intermediate passes. No adjustment is the problem in my opinion, and teams still beat us on the long ball.

I don't like to edit posts. Just want to scrub this thread for obvious reasons.

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Of course I did not intend to dismiss the actual players in my earlier poorly worded comment on this year's graduating class of players. What I intended to say was we won't miss the results on the field of the past four years. Certainly the players, like all our W&M football grads, have earned the respect of all by both graduating a difficult academic university,
giving their all on the gridiron, and are, like all of us and all other previous graduates, proud W&M allumni.

In reading back what I wrote early this morning I can readily see how poorly it was written, and apologize to any who
took it negatively. It shall not occur again.

The defense has gone from one we could generally count on keeping us in games in spite of our offense last year to one that can’t stop anyone this year without a change in personnel. That screams scheme is the problem. There is zero excuse for that. Way too much talent on the field for that to happen. I don’t know what Bubba said but we aren’t likely to field a more talented defense than we had available to us this year. We need a coaching adjustment. Offensively, a healthy Mathis or someone else who brings a threat of the pass will make the offense so much better.

Some thoughts.

1. Congratulations to all the seniors moving on, everyone on this board wishes you guys the best.

2. Defensive coaching changes need to happen. We gave up 400+ yards to URI, and Towson just ran all over us, matter of fact, they passed all over us too. FWIW, we’ve given up 857 yards in the last 2 games.

2a. This scheme has been absolutely horrible. Giving the receivers 8 yards of space before the ball even gets snapped is absolutely ridiculous. In my opinion, Corey Parker is undoubtedly the best secondary player on the team, and restricting him to an ~8 yard space leads to struggles for him, and about everyone else on the secondary.

2b. Speaking of the secondary, Latrelle Smith is going to be a great player. He had his struggles this year, but that was expected. Him and Poole will be a force in the secondary for years to come.

3. You stop the run, you stop our offense. I am going to cut these guys some slack, our offensive playmakers consisted of a true freshman QB, RB, WR, and a walk on JR, who barely played under Laycock, and who just received his scholarship this year (well deserved to be honest) Next year, this offense is going to be a force.

4. This of course is not the main reason we lost yesterday, but my word the refs were absolutely abysmal. Multiple missed holding calls, and that fumble call with around 2 minutes to go was hilariously bad. This is D1 football, we have to do better.


5. Like I said, congrats to all moving on, graduating, etc. You all will be missed dearly. Lets send them off with a win. Onto Richmond

My memory may be shot, but I don't recall Mathis being inaccurate in the games leading up to his injury. Am I wrong?

(11-17-2019 02:08 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  My memory may be shot, but I don't recall Mathis being inaccurate in the games leading up to his injury. Am I wrong?

His best game was against Colgate. 11-19 189 yards. A lot of these issues can be pinpointed on him being a true freshman, but we’ve all seen his potential.

(11-17-2019 02:08 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  My memory may be shot, but I don't recall Mathis being inaccurate in the games leading up to his injury. Am I wrong?

He has been very inaccurate all season. He has poor mechanics and throws on the run and from weird angles. All of that is teachable. What you can't teach is arm strength and he has that in spades. I expect for him to be much more accurate as his career progresses. If he cleans stuff up, he will be a nightmare for the opposition.

(11-17-2019 12:15 PM)Tribe3455 Wrote:  The defense has gone from one we could generally count on keeping us in games in spite of our offense last year to one that can’t stop anyone this year without a change in personnel. That screams scheme is the problem. There is zero excuse for that. Way too much talent on the field for that to happen. I don’t know what Bubba said but we aren’t likely to field a more talented defense than we had available to us this year. We need a coaching adjustment. Offensively, a healthy Mathis or someone else who brings a threat of the pass will make the offense so much better.

Ditto about this Defensive scheme/conservative calls that ML seems loyal to over the years. On tract for giving up 29 ppg this year . Looks like 6 seasons At UVA This scheme with mostly his players gave up an avg 28 ppg in a usual lackluster ACC league.
Followed up by 2 years at Howard 40 ppg playing lower tier FCS. Just an obvious observation.
The Capital Cup is usually a slug feast and after 129 games the series is actually tied so hoping that our defense can play aggressive make some turnovers and end this season with big win.

(11-17-2019 05:10 PM)Nick99 Wrote:  

(11-17-2019 12:15 PM)Tribe3455 Wrote:  The defense has gone from one we could generally count on keeping us in games in spite of our offense last year to one that can’t stop anyone this year without a change in personnel. That screams scheme is the problem. There is zero excuse for that. Way too much talent on the field for that to happen. I don’t know what Bubba said but we aren’t likely to field a more talented defense than we had available to us this year. We need a coaching adjustment. Offensively, a healthy Mathis or someone else who brings a threat of the pass will make the offense so much better.

Ditto about this Defensive scheme/conservative calls that ML seems loyal to over the years. On tract for giving up 29 ppg this year . Looks like 6 seasons At UVA This scheme with mostly his players gave up an avg 28 ppg in a usual lackluster ACC league.
Followed up by 2 years at Howard 40 ppg playing lower tier FCS. Just an obvious observation.
The Capital Cup is usually a slug feast and after 129 games the series is actually tied so hoping that our defense can play aggressive make some turnovers and end this season with big win.

Howard gave up 28 per game in 2017 and 34 last year, so not 40, but not good either.

(11-17-2019 05:17 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2019 05:10 PM)Nick99 Wrote:  

(11-17-2019 12:15 PM)Tribe3455 Wrote:  The defense has gone from one we could generally count on keeping us in games in spite of our offense last year to one that can’t stop anyone this year without a change in personnel. That screams scheme is the problem. There is zero excuse for that. Way too much talent on the field for that to happen. I don’t know what Bubba said but we aren’t likely to field a more talented defense than we had available to us this year. We need a coaching adjustment. Offensively, a healthy Mathis or someone else who brings a threat of the pass will make the offense so much better.

Ditto about this Defensive scheme/conservative calls that ML seems loyal to over the years. On tract for giving up 29 ppg this year . Looks like 6 seasons At UVA This scheme with mostly his players gave up an avg 28 ppg in a usual lackluster ACC league.
Followed up by 2 years at Howard 40 ppg playing lower tier FCS. Just an obvious observation.
The Capital Cup is usually a slug feast and after 129 games the series is actually tied so hoping that our defense can play aggressive make some turnovers and end this season with big win.

Howard gave up 28 per game in 2017 and 34 last year, so not 40, but not good either.

Good catch thx... the UVA ppg were on the website but had to calculate Howard Myself good thing I’m not an accountant

Howard's stats are on their site. Just go change the year from this year to 2017 and 2018. It tells an interesting story on both sides of the ball.