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RE: As I watch MNF and Matthew Stafford, I can't help but think about Brady White
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 09:58 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's very simple. ....in comparison to WINNING THE BIG GAME. And HOW did "he" (nevermind the NFL talent he was dumping the ball off to) "win the West"? A freaking weak-ass 3 way tie. I'll tell you the whole point of this, wrapped up in one game. The Championship game last year. That was the "Big Game" for last year that he should have won. Had a damn good lead to start the second half. That's an example of "can't win the big game." I don't care WHAT Lynch and Wimprine and Ferguson did as it relates to the future success of this team and Brady White's performance. Just like I didn't care about how crappy we were in the 80s and 90s when Wimprine came along. Referring back to past QBs is a total waste of time. I want to win. Period. End of sentence. If you don't, maybe you're not a Tigers fan.

That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

To add, Ferguson had the same porous defense the year before against an even better UCF squad.
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RE: As I watch MNF and Matthew Stafford, I can't help but think about Brady White
(10-16-2019 12:21 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 09:58 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's very simple. ....in comparison to WINNING THE BIG GAME. And HOW did "he" (nevermind the NFL talent he was dumping the ball off to) "win the West"? A freaking weak-ass 3 way tie. I'll tell you the whole point of this, wrapped up in one game. The Championship game last year. That was the "Big Game" for last year that he should have won. Had a damn good lead to start the second half. That's an example of "can't win the big game." I don't care WHAT Lynch and Wimprine and Ferguson did as it relates to the future success of this team and Brady White's performance. Just like I didn't care about how crappy we were in the 80s and 90s when Wimprine came along. Referring back to past QBs is a total waste of time. I want to win. Period. End of sentence. If you don't, maybe you're not a Tigers fan.

That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

Dramatic much?

So basically Memphis needed to score 60 to win.

That's the benchmark?

They scored 41 points. In most worlds (and spotting the defense leads of 24-7, 31-14, and 38-21) that is enough.

UCF punted one time the whole game-their FIRST drive.

Dramatic - not at all. It's interesting the lengths folks like you go to blame the rest of the team. The defense wasn't great last year. We had to score a ton of points on average to win and thanks to two NFL caliber QBs, we could. In the UCF game, we couldn't sustain drives from midway through the 2nd Q. 3 and outs puts a tired weak defense right back on the field. A single sustained drive (at most 2) would have been enough and we couldn't do it.

We have a relatively weak schedule this year. We have a much better defense. We have an experienced team. Everything was set up for a possible undefeated season especially with every good team in the AAC sans Temple playing us at home. My concern was Brady and unfortunately it has come to fruition. Let's hope we can win out the rest of the games but my gut says we'll drop at least one more.
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RE: As I watch MNF and Matthew Stafford, I can't help but think about Brady White
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 09:58 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's very simple. ....in comparison to WINNING THE BIG GAME. And HOW did "he" (nevermind the NFL talent he was dumping the ball off to) "win the West"? A freaking weak-ass 3 way tie. I'll tell you the whole point of this, wrapped up in one game. The Championship game last year. That was the "Big Game" for last year that he should have won. Had a damn good lead to start the second half. That's an example of "can't win the big game." I don't care WHAT Lynch and Wimprine and Ferguson did as it relates to the future success of this team and Brady White's performance. Just like I didn't care about how crappy we were in the 80s and 90s when Wimprine came along. Referring back to past QBs is a total waste of time. I want to win. Period. End of sentence. If you don't, maybe you're not a Tigers fan.

That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

Of course, too, I guess you just want to ignore Memphis' 2nd and 3rd drives of the second half:

23 combined plays for 127 total yards and 9:44 of clock time.

In those two drives:

White 4-8 for 70 yards.
White: 2 rushes for 15 yards.
Henderson: 5 rushes for 1 yard.
Taylor: 4 rushes for 22 yards.
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RE: As I watch MNF and Matthew Stafford, I can't help but think about Brady White
(10-16-2019 12:23 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 09:58 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's very simple. ....in comparison to WINNING THE BIG GAME. And HOW did "he" (nevermind the NFL talent he was dumping the ball off to) "win the West"? A freaking weak-ass 3 way tie. I'll tell you the whole point of this, wrapped up in one game. The Championship game last year. That was the "Big Game" for last year that he should have won. Had a damn good lead to start the second half. That's an example of "can't win the big game." I don't care WHAT Lynch and Wimprine and Ferguson did as it relates to the future success of this team and Brady White's performance. Just like I didn't care about how crappy we were in the 80s and 90s when Wimprine came along. Referring back to past QBs is a total waste of time. I want to win. Period. End of sentence. If you don't, maybe you're not a Tigers fan.

That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

To add, Ferguson had the same porous defense the year before against an even better UCF squad.

Agreed.
But Brady isn't Ferguson and that's ok. The game started off perfectly and should have been set up for Brady not to do too much. What Brady (and the offense) couldn't do is muster up a single drive for more than a half and that is still the Defense's fault lol
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RE: As I watch MNF and Matthew Stafford, I can't help but think about Brady White
(10-14-2019 10:11 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I watch entirely too much football.

I lived in Georgia for 15 years, and saw Matt Stafford's first games as a QB for the bulldogs and was entirely unimpressed. My first game in person in Athens, he turned the ball over 3-4 times against Miss. State, but had a lot of great stats.
Stafford went on to get a lot better, and filled up the passing statistical records at Georgia.
But Stafford is also known as a Stat compiler in the NFL, the best quarterback to never win a playoff game.

That brings me to Brady White. If all goes well, BW will become the greatest statistical QB in Memphis history. He'll lead us in yards and TD passes by the end of 2020. I hope this happens bc that means he'll have stayed healthy and we know Norvell is his ride or die brother.

But then I wonder why we can't get behind BW as a fan base. Last year, Stammers and I led the charge about how he consistently failed against good defenses and piled up huge numbers against cupcakes. We were trying to convince a certain population on this board that Brady was just an average QB, regardless of Wins/losses.

But like the movie 12 Angry Men, even though I led the charge against him in the past, I'd like to switch my vote and rally behind our Memphis QB regardless of what happens now.

I went to the South Alabama game in person, took my girlfriend and 4 neighbors that live in LA. Brady had a great statistical game, but he overthrew several receivers and killed some drives. We won. I decided not to post any analysis bc I felt like it would be piling on....

My gf is an Auburn season ticket holder. I watched Bo Nix throw 3 interceptions against Florida. This week I watched Jake Fromm turn it over 4 times against SC. Nix & Fromm still have the support of their fan bases.
I wondered, what's the difference here?


It's because when it matters, against the best teams in conference, has BW played a mistake free game? Does he have to? He just needs one game against a good defense where he doesn't turn it over or get rattled.

It reminds me of Peyton Manning. Most forget he carried a monkey on his back for years because he couldn't win the big game.(college and pro-I tore the goalpost down with half of ya'll)
He's an icon now with tons of accolades, but for the longest time, he got a lot of criticism.

Maybe it's the modern era, where every mistake is amplified....

It's also unfair to compare BW to Stafford, or Nix, or Fromm. He's not that caliber. Like other's have said, he's an average to above average G5 QB.
But with what he went through after the 1st Quarter, to throw for 375 yards, I really think he's turned the corner. I think this team, his coaches, and this fan base will rally behind him. I'm not saying we'll go undefeated or that the backup shouldn't get a single series in future games. And all of you know that this team will go only as far as Brady goes....

Here's to hoping he leads us in all-time career passing statistics.
But there's a chance he could also lead us in career wins.
(I'll leave it up to the stats guys to validate this)

I went to every home game when Winprine & Matthews were setting records. And like most fans I have a tendency to look backwards through rose tinted glasses.

BW is about halfway through his career at Memphis. His legacy is yet to be written. Maybe I'm a fool for having too high expectations. But there's a chance that he could be remembered for his wins more than his stats....

(If Navy keeps winning, that may become a bigger win than most expected at the time)

(Also, I can't think of specific names, but what are some high stat QBs from Hawaii or Texas Tech or other similar teams that never really won any big games?)

20 iq points. 03-lmfao
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RE: As I watch MNF and Matthew Stafford, I can't help but think about Brady White
(10-16-2019 12:31 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:23 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 09:58 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's very simple. ....in comparison to WINNING THE BIG GAME. And HOW did "he" (nevermind the NFL talent he was dumping the ball off to) "win the West"? A freaking weak-ass 3 way tie. I'll tell you the whole point of this, wrapped up in one game. The Championship game last year. That was the "Big Game" for last year that he should have won. Had a damn good lead to start the second half. That's an example of "can't win the big game." I don't care WHAT Lynch and Wimprine and Ferguson did as it relates to the future success of this team and Brady White's performance. Just like I didn't care about how crappy we were in the 80s and 90s when Wimprine came along. Referring back to past QBs is a total waste of time. I want to win. Period. End of sentence. If you don't, maybe you're not a Tigers fan.

That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

To add, Ferguson had the same porous defense the year before against an even better UCF squad.

Agreed.
But Brady isn't Ferguson and that's ok. The game started off perfectly and should have been set up for Brady not to do too much. What Brady (and the offense) couldn't do is muster up a single drive for more than a half and that is still the Defense's fault lol

Just a blatant lie.

Like I noted, Memphis had two sustained drives in the 3rd quarter accounting for essentially 10 minutes of the 15 minute 3rd quarter.
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RE: As I watch MNF and Matthew Stafford, I can't help but think about Brady White
(10-16-2019 12:30 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 09:58 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's very simple. ....in comparison to WINNING THE BIG GAME. And HOW did "he" (nevermind the NFL talent he was dumping the ball off to) "win the West"? A freaking weak-ass 3 way tie. I'll tell you the whole point of this, wrapped up in one game. The Championship game last year. That was the "Big Game" for last year that he should have won. Had a damn good lead to start the second half. That's an example of "can't win the big game." I don't care WHAT Lynch and Wimprine and Ferguson did as it relates to the future success of this team and Brady White's performance. Just like I didn't care about how crappy we were in the 80s and 90s when Wimprine came along. Referring back to past QBs is a total waste of time. I want to win. Period. End of sentence. If you don't, maybe you're not a Tigers fan.

That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

Of course, too, I guess you just want to ignore Memphis' 2nd and 3rd drives of the second half:

23 combined plays for 127 total yards and 9:44 of clock time.

In those two drives:

White 4-8 for 70 yards.
White: 2 rushes for 15 yards.
Henderson: 5 rushes for 1 yard.
Taylor: 4 rushes for 22 yards.

Fair enough. Unfortunately we only scored 3 pts off those drives and UCF still had the ball for more than double our possession time in the 2nd half with the longest UCF drive taking only 3:24 of clock time.

Regardless, let's hope the Tigers do enough ROS and Brady either keeps improving or doesn't F up so we can still have a shot at a New Year's bowl game.
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(10-16-2019 12:41 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:30 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 09:58 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's very simple. ....in comparison to WINNING THE BIG GAME. And HOW did "he" (nevermind the NFL talent he was dumping the ball off to) "win the West"? A freaking weak-ass 3 way tie. I'll tell you the whole point of this, wrapped up in one game. The Championship game last year. That was the "Big Game" for last year that he should have won. Had a damn good lead to start the second half. That's an example of "can't win the big game." I don't care WHAT Lynch and Wimprine and Ferguson did as it relates to the future success of this team and Brady White's performance. Just like I didn't care about how crappy we were in the 80s and 90s when Wimprine came along. Referring back to past QBs is a total waste of time. I want to win. Period. End of sentence. If you don't, maybe you're not a Tigers fan.

That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

Of course, too, I guess you just want to ignore Memphis' 2nd and 3rd drives of the second half:

23 combined plays for 127 total yards and 9:44 of clock time.

In those two drives:

White 4-8 for 70 yards.
White: 2 rushes for 15 yards.
Henderson: 5 rushes for 1 yard.
Taylor: 4 rushes for 22 yards.

Fair enough. Unfortunately we only scored 3 pts off those drives and UCF still had the ball for more than double our possession time in the 2nd half with the longest UCF drive taking only 3:24 of clock time.

Regardless, let's hope the Tigers do enough ROS and Brady either keeps improving or doesn't F up so we can still have a shot at a New Year's bowl game.

Dude.

2nd half time of possession:

Memphis: 15:13
UCF: 14:47
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(10-16-2019 12:37 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:31 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:23 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

To add, Ferguson had the same porous defense the year before against an even better UCF squad.

Agreed.
But Brady isn't Ferguson and that's ok. The game started off perfectly and should have been set up for Brady not to do too much. What Brady (and the offense) couldn't do is muster up a single drive for more than a half and that is still the Defense's fault lol

Just a blatant lie.

Like I noted, Memphis had two sustained drives in the 3rd quarter accounting for essentially 10 minutes of the 15 minute 3rd quarter.

Dramatic much?

Two sustained drives that resulted in 3 points. The 2nd "sustained drive" was in the 4th Q FYI and not the 3rd Q.
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(10-16-2019 12:45 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:41 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:30 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:07 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 12:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  That's a weird, angry rant.

Memphis scored 41 points in the title game and spotted the defense 17 point leads on three separate occasions.

UCF's final six drives starting in the 2nd quarter (minus the end of half) went like this:

TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN
TOUCHDOWN

But yeah, blame Brady.

..and the offense couldn't muster up a decent drive; move the chains, run the clock, etc. Everyone knows why. Keep throwing the rest of the team under the bus; White is obviously infallible.

Of course, too, I guess you just want to ignore Memphis' 2nd and 3rd drives of the second half:

23 combined plays for 127 total yards and 9:44 of clock time.

In those two drives:

White 4-8 for 70 yards.
White: 2 rushes for 15 yards.
Henderson: 5 rushes for 1 yard.
Taylor: 4 rushes for 22 yards.

Fair enough. Unfortunately we only scored 3 pts off those drives and UCF still had the ball for more than double our possession time in the 2nd half with the longest UCF drive taking only 3:24 of clock time.

Regardless, let's hope the Tigers do enough ROS and Brady either keeps improving or doesn't F up so we can still have a shot at a New Year's bowl game.

Dude.

2nd half time of possession:

Memphis: 15:13
UCF: 14:47

I stand corrected
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For the record, MEMPHIS IKE likes Brady White and all of his sources and the Dudes on the street all
Think Brady is a good Q.B.
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I guess that ends the debate then.
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(10-14-2019 11:01 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 10:11 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I watch entirely too much football.

I lived in Georgia for 15 years, and saw Matt Stafford's first games as a QB for the bulldogs and was entirely unimpressed. My first game in person in Athens, he turned the ball over 3-4 times against Miss. State, but had a lot of great stats.
Stafford went on to get a lot better, and filled up the passing statistical records at Georgia.
But Stafford is also known as a Stat compiler in the NFL, the best quarterback to never win a playoff game.

That brings me to Brady White. If all goes well, BW will become the greatest statistical QB in Memphis history. He'll lead us in yards and TD passes by the end of 2020. I hope this happens bc that means he'll have stayed healthy and we know Norvell is his ride or die brother.

But then I wonder why we can't get behind BW as a fan base. Last year, Stammers and I led the charge about how he consistently failed against good defenses and piled up huge numbers against cupcakes. We were trying to convince a certain population on this board that Brady was just an average QB, regardless of Wins/losses.

But like the movie 12 Angry Men, even though I led the charge against him in the past, I'd like to switch my vote and rally behind our Memphis QB regardless of what happens now.

I went to the South Alabama game in person, took my girlfriend and 4 neighbors that live in LA. Brady had a great statistical game, but he overthrew several receivers and killed some drives. We won. I decided not to post any analysis bc I felt like it would be piling on....

My gf is an Auburn season ticket holder. I watched Bo Nix throw 3 interceptions against Florida. This week I watched Jake Fromm turn it over 4 times against SC. Nix & Fromm still have the support of their fan bases.
I wondered, what's the difference here?

It's because when it matters, against the best teams in conference, has BW played a mistake free game? Does he have to? He just needs one game against a good defense where he doesn't turn it over or get rattled.

It reminds me of Peyton Manning. Most forget he carried a monkey on his back for years because he couldn't win the big game.(college and pro-I tore the goalpost down with half of ya'll)
He's an icon now with tons of accolades, but for the longest time, he got a lot of criticism.

Maybe it's the modern era, where every mistake is amplified....

It's also unfair to compare BW to Stafford, or Nix, or Fromm. He's not that caliber. Like other's have said, he's an average to above average G5 QB.
But with what he went through after the 1st Quarter, to throw for 375 yards, I really think he's turned the corner. I think this team, his coaches, and this fan base will rally behind him. I'm not saying we'll go undefeated or that the backup shouldn't get a single series in future games. And all of you know that this team will go only as far as Brady goes....

Here's to hoping he leads us in all-time career passing statistics.
But there's a chance he could also lead us in career wins.
(I'll leave it up to the stats guys to validate this)

I went to every home game when Winprine & Matthews were setting records. And like most fans I have a tendency to look backwards through rose tinted glasses.

BW is about halfway through his career at Memphis. His legacy is yet to be written. Maybe I'm a fool for having too high expectations. But there's a chance that he could be remembered for his wins more than his stats....

(If Navy keeps winning, that may become a bigger win than most expected at the time)

(Also, I can't think of specific names, but what are some high stat QBs from Hawaii or Texas Tech or other similar teams that never really won any big games?)

Bo Nix is trash.

I watched the PSU/Iowa game and saw two top 25 P5 teams that I wouldn't trade Brady for.

And I watched UTk and MSU. Again, QB's that I wouldn't want.

From P5 schools.

Brady literally gets judged on EVERY pass he makes or misses. I get that int vs. Temple was HORRIBLE. But few QB's right now get judged so harshly as Brady does (by of all fan bases) Memphis.

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(10-14-2019 10:11 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I watch entirely too much football.

I lived in Georgia for 15 years, and saw Matt Stafford's first games as a QB for the bulldogs and was entirely unimpressed. My first game in person in Athens, he turned the ball over 3-4 times against Miss. State, but had a lot of great stats.
Stafford went on to get a lot better, and filled up the passing statistical records at Georgia.
But Stafford is also known as a Stat compiler in the NFL, the best quarterback to never win a playoff game.

That brings me to Brady White. If all goes well, BW will become the greatest statistical QB in Memphis history. He'll lead us in yards and TD passes by the end of 2020. I hope this happens bc that means he'll have stayed healthy and we know Norvell is his ride or die brother.

But then I wonder why we can't get behind BW as a fan base. Last year, Stammers and I led the charge about how he consistently failed against good defenses and piled up huge numbers against cupcakes. We were trying to convince a certain population on this board that Brady was just an average QB, regardless of Wins/losses.

But like the movie 12 Angry Men, even though I led the charge against him in the past, I'd like to switch my vote and rally behind our Memphis QB regardless of what happens now.

I went to the South Alabama game in person, took my girlfriend and 4 neighbors that live in LA. Brady had a great statistical game, but he overthrew several receivers and killed some drives. We won. I decided not to post any analysis bc I felt like it would be piling on....

My gf is an Auburn season ticket holder. I watched Bo Nix throw 3 interceptions against Florida. This week I watched Jake Fromm turn it over 4 times against SC. Nix & Fromm still have the support of their fan bases.
I wondered, what's the difference here?

It's because when it matters, against the best teams in conference, has BW played a mistake free game? Does he have to? He just needs one game against a good defense where he doesn't turn it over or get rattled.

It reminds me of Peyton Manning. Most forget he carried a monkey on his back for years because he couldn't win the big game.(college and pro-I tore the goalpost down with half of ya'll)
He's an icon now with tons of accolades, but for the longest time, he got a lot of criticism.

Maybe it's the modern era, where every mistake is amplified....

It's also unfair to compare BW to Stafford, or Nix, or Fromm. He's not that caliber. Like other's have said, he's an average to above average G5 QB.
But with what he went through after the 1st Quarter, to throw for 375 yards, I really think he's turned the corner. I think this team, his coaches, and this fan base will rally behind him. I'm not saying we'll go undefeated or that the backup shouldn't get a single series in future games. And all of you know that this team will go only as far as Brady goes....

Here's to hoping he leads us in all-time career passing statistics.
But there's a chance he could also lead us in career wins.
(I'll leave it up to the stats guys to validate this)

I went to every home game when Winprine & Matthews were setting records. And like most fans I have a tendency to look backwards through rose tinted glasses.

BW is about halfway through his career at Memphis. His legacy is yet to be written. Maybe I'm a fool for having too high expectations. But there's a chance that he could be remembered for his wins more than his stats....

(If Navy keeps winning, that may become a bigger win than most expected at the time)

(Also, I can't think of specific names, but what are some high stat QBs from Hawaii or Texas Tech or other similar teams that never really won any big games?)

+1 for working in 12 Angry Men reference. +3 if you meant the original movie.
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Look. The Auburn fan dug up a month and a half old post to protect his QB.

Cute.
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Damn you Brady White, how dare you lead our team to a Western Division championship and to the AAC championship game with a Cotton Bowl berth on the horizon. i was just as hard on BW early on because he looked exactly like the BW we had last season but about 4 games in I did a 180 and haven't looked back. Thank our lucky stars for BW and Coach Norvell. They at least know truth from fiction.
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(11-30-2019 07:56 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Look. The Auburn fan dug up a month and a half old post to protect his QB.

Cute.

Cute or not Nix is a good one. Seemed pretty harsh to deem him trash as a freshman after 2-3 games (one of which was a win over a top 10 Oregon). And now, just watching Auburn whip Bama, no, he's not trash. And BTW, BW is pretty good too.
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(11-30-2019 07:56 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Look. The Auburn fan dug up a month and a half old post to protect his QB.

Cute.

Look, the moron chimes in.
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(11-30-2019 08:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(11-30-2019 07:56 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Look. The Auburn fan dug up a month and a half old post to protect his QB.

Cute.

Cute or not Nix is a good one. Seemed pretty harsh to deem him trash as a freshman after 2-3 games (one of which was a win over a top 10 Oregon). And now, just watching Auburn whip Bama, no, he's not trash. And BTW, BW is pretty good too.

Brain trust here, isn't it. 03-lmfao
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I'm wishing Brady White all the success there is because, as it's been said, we go no further than he takes us.

Each and every time I sit my butt down at the Liberty Bowl, I look at my son and say, "OK, do we get Good Brady or Bad Brady?"

And I cannot help but hold my breath when a defender gets within 3 feet of the guy .. It's a flaw in my character I guess.

GTG!

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