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RE: Southern's band
Perhaps none of you had a chance to experience a typical HBCU band . I challenge any of you to attend the SHC at the Liberty Bowl and actually watch the halftime show. To be honest, I have seen more uncouth behavior from fans at both UofM football games and basketball games. Sitting court side at basketball games and hearing some of the language and rhetoric used by some of the fans is very embarrassing and disheartening.Their band was an experience. I enjoyed it. We should hire their band director.
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(09-08-2019 12:44 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  You either get it or you don't, I guess. I'm glad a few people here appreciated it.

Forget what I said earlier about MTSU. You know what's REALLY disrespectful?

When we played at Ole Miss in 2014 and they strictly forbade us to let our band play - they said we could bring the MSOS, but they couldn't have their instruments.

That is disrespect. Music is not.

Ole Miss now plays loud piped-in music every-time an opposing band starts to play its fight song. They also mic their band, so it drowns out opposing bands and they separate the opposing band from the fan section.
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(09-07-2019 05:36 PM)Mimi Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:25 PM)Tigerfan935 Wrote:  I bet half the people on here complaining about Southern's have sent money to a Nigerian prince in the last year.

Lighten up, blue hairs. Their band was one the best parts of the game.

Indeed, their band was really good

What that has to do with the other points being made here I have no idea

Playing during plays I believe is against the rules, and playing loudly during our home game spirit squad celebration was rude, show us some respect too, like we did for them during their halftime show

Them being good, like many other bands, is beside the point in this case


HBCU bands come to battle. That's a part of the HBCU Gameday experience. There was no disrespect meant by The Juke.
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RE: Southern's band
I get all of that

The TAG advertisement caused fall starts last week

And football teams come to compete and follow the rules or get flagged

When their band played quick notes during play calls and played loudly during plays it was wrong, whether that is HBCU tradition or not

As was specifically when they played over the quarter break Memphis spirit squad

Would we be defending their competitive band if they played loudly during the national anthem or the military promotion?

It seems like everyone thought they were very talented and have their own traditions, and still think the above were out of line, and are expressing that pretty tamely in a message board thread, after universally shunning our band at halftime to watch their performance. Again, we get it.
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Somebody's got to splain to me how a marching band can be obnoxious and rude
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RE: Southern's band
(09-08-2019 08:12 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:36 PM)Mimi Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:25 PM)Tigerfan935 Wrote:  I bet half the people on here complaining about Southern's have sent money to a Nigerian prince in the last year.

Lighten up, blue hairs. Their band was one the best parts of the game.

Indeed, their band was really good

What that has to do with the other points being made here I have no idea

Playing during plays I believe is against the rules, and playing loudly during our home game spirit squad celebration was rude, show us some respect too, like we did for them during their halftime show

Them being good, like many other bands, is beside the point in this case


HBCU bands come to battle. That's a part of the HBCU Gameday experience. There was no disrespect meant by The Juke.

The band shouldn’t play after the offense breaks the huddle and lines up.
I couldn’t care less if they try and drowned out a band but if they’re trying to create false start penalties or delay of game penalties then its over the line.
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Wow it's some truly ignorant and racist things said in this thread, uncouth? go back where you came from? But hey in this day and age i would not expect anything less.

The game was heavily scripted.. right down to which band was supposed to be playing during time outs. So if anyone was uncouth is was the Tigers band. because they played even when is was not their turn to play. I have a copy of the house marking script and so did each schools band directors. So why would you pay for a band to come all the way up here and then not even let them PLAY! Not only that, they gave them only 4 mins for halftime when there was plenty of time left to give them at least another 1min and a half.

Every time Southerns band tried to play the House staff jumped on the headsets and told them not too. So of course they were frustrated..

Even when is was Southern's turn to play the tigers band still jumped on the loudspeakers and played...

Old Miss band played damn near the whole game and no one ran in here saying they were uncouth or go back to where they came from.

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RE: Southern's band
(09-08-2019 09:48 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-08-2019 08:12 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:36 PM)Mimi Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:25 PM)Tigerfan935 Wrote:  I bet half the people on here complaining about Southern's have sent money to a Nigerian prince in the last year.

Lighten up, blue hairs. Their band was one the best parts of the game.

Indeed, their band was really good

What that has to do with the other points being made here I have no idea

Playing during plays I believe is against the rules, and playing loudly during our home game spirit squad celebration was rude, show us some respect too, like we did for them during their halftime show

Them being good, like many other bands, is beside the point in this case


HBCU bands come to battle. That's a part of the HBCU Gameday experience. There was no disrespect meant by The Juke.

The band shouldn’t play after the offense breaks the huddle and lines up.
I couldn’t care less if they try and drowned out a band but if they’re trying to create false start penalties or delay of game penalties then its over the line.

Nothing says #TwoAmericas quite like this statement. That rule is followed loosely to say the least at HBCU games. The bands are a part of the HBCU experience. Because it may be different from what you're accustomed to doesn't make it rude.

If there were times that the band shouldn't play then schools will usually send the band director an itinerary during the week just like Memphis did to notify Southern that they'd only have 4 minutes and 15 seconds for half time.
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(09-08-2019 10:29 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(09-08-2019 09:48 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-08-2019 08:12 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:36 PM)Mimi Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:25 PM)Tigerfan935 Wrote:  I bet half the people on here complaining about Southern's have sent money to a Nigerian prince in the last year.

Lighten up, blue hairs. Their band was one the best parts of the game.

Indeed, their band was really good

What that has to do with the other points being made here I have no idea

Playing during plays I believe is against the rules, and playing loudly during our home game spirit squad celebration was rude, show us some respect too, like we did for them during their halftime show

Them being good, like many other bands, is beside the point in this case


HBCU bands come to battle. That's a part of the HBCU Gameday experience. There was no disrespect meant by The Juke.

The band shouldn’t play after the offense breaks the huddle and lines up.
I couldn’t care less if they try and drowned out a band but if they’re trying to create false start penalties or delay of game penalties then its over the line.

Nothing says #TwoAmericas quite like this statement. That rule is followed loosely to say the least at HBCU games. The bands are a part of the HBCU experience. Because it may be different from what you're accustomed to doesn't make it rude.

If there were times that the band shouldn't play then schools will usually send the band director an itinerary during the week just like Memphis did to notify Southern that they'd only have 4 minutes and 15 seconds for half time.

I don’t care about band decorum and who plays when but I don’t think a band should intentionally inject themselves into a game... just like I do not want to see schools pipe in noise while teams are in the set position to try and cause penalties. Perhaps that’s a black/white issue, but I think its more of a good sportsmanship issue.
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(09-08-2019 12:39 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I don't know.

When they played "It Ain't Over Til It's Over," an absolutely WONDERFUL song that's based on my favorite EWF song ("That's the Way of the World), and they played it all drive, and we scored, that was just beautiful.

No ref is going to flag that. Ever watched a Southern Cal game?

One of my favorite Tiger memories of recent times.

RE: " It Ain't Over" That was clever at the time given they had just run the fumble back to get back to 10. Couldn't find yesterday's video of it but here is the performance in the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgjx54QayBM

Just think of all the handwringing here if they have dropped some Lil Wayne yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNsWdU5c...re=related

Great band.
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in the past

i have seen grambling and miss valley state

and southern's performance saturday was tame compared to those bands
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(09-08-2019 10:28 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  Wow it's some truly ignorant and racist things said in this thread, uncouth? go back where you came from? But hey in this day and age i would not expect anything less.

The game was heavily scripted.. right down to which band was supposed to be playing during time outs. So if anyone was uncouth is was the Tigers band. because they played even when is was not their turn to play. I have a copy of the house marking script and so did each schools band directors. So why would you pay for a band to come all the way up here and then not even let them PLAY! Not only that, they gave them only 4 mins for halftime when there was plenty of time left to give them at least another 1min and a half.

Every time Southerns band tried to play the House staff jumped on the headsets and told them not too. So of course they were frustrated..

Even when is was Southern's turn to play the tigers band still jumped on the loudspeakers and played...

Old Miss band played damn near the whole game and no one ran in here saying they were uncouth or go back to where they came from.

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(09-08-2019 11:20 AM)jpark Wrote:  
(09-08-2019 12:39 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I don't know.

When they played "It Ain't Over Til It's Over," an absolutely WONDERFUL song that's based on my favorite EWF song ("That's the Way of the World), and they played it all drive, and we scored, that was just beautiful.

No ref is going to flag that. Ever watched a Southern Cal game?

One of my favorite Tiger memories of recent times.

RE: " It Ain't Over" That was clever at the time given they had just run the fumble back to get back to 10. Couldn't find yesterday's video of it but here is the performance in the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgjx54QayBM

Just think of all the handwringing here if they have dropped some Lil Wayne yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNsWdU5c...re=related

Great band.

Now that's a band!
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(09-08-2019 10:29 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(09-08-2019 09:48 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-08-2019 08:12 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:36 PM)Mimi Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 05:25 PM)Tigerfan935 Wrote:  I bet half the people on here complaining about Southern's have sent money to a Nigerian prince in the last year.

Lighten up, blue hairs. Their band was one the best parts of the game.

Indeed, their band was really good

What that has to do with the other points being made here I have no idea

Playing during plays I believe is against the rules, and playing loudly during our home game spirit squad celebration was rude, show us some respect too, like we did for them during their halftime show

Them being good, like many other bands, is beside the point in this case


HBCU bands come to battle. That's a part of the HBCU Gameday experience. There was no disrespect meant by The Juke.

The band shouldn’t play after the offense breaks the huddle and lines up.
I couldn’t care less if they try and drowned out a band but if they’re trying to create false start penalties or delay of game penalties then its over the line.

Nothing says #TwoAmericas quite like this statement. That rule is followed loosely to say the least at HBCU games. The bands are a part of the HBCU experience. Because it may be different from what you're accustomed to doesn't make it rude.

If there were times that the band shouldn't play then schools will usually send the band director an itinerary during the week just like Memphis did to notify Southern that they'd only have 4 minutes and 15 seconds for half time.

You are barking up trees where YOU don’t understand who you are barking at or even considering that they understand the bigger picture but even with that bigger picture found some things untoward

There are a LOT of traditions that are nonetheless rude.

Rebel flag waving. You like that?
Calling people boy or N word. You okay with that?
Just good old times and just southern tradition will scream the defenders

Bottom line, EVEN IF it is a tradition among HBCU bands to play during plays and to play over the home team band while their spirit squads are doing their signature show and even if that same home team band and home team fans showed tremendous respect for the road team band

It is not right

I am a pretty dam progressive person, but such intractability like you are showing hurts legitimate causes

Don’t defend doing something rude based on tradition unless you are prepared to defend it all

In THIS case, it was wrong

Bands are part of a lot of college traditions, not just HBCUs.

Your idea that anyone is interpreting different as rude is way off base and condescending in a manner that perhaps you don’t understand based on your different experience

I am done with band gate. An overwhelming shout out hedged with a mild comment is met with this unwavering asinine nonsense

We DO understand. YOU don’t.

Done
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Mrs. Obama, I've done it. I've stopped racism.
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(09-08-2019 10:28 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  Wow it's some truly ignorant and racist things said in this thread, uncouth? go back where you came from? But hey in this day and age i would not expect anything less.

The game was heavily scripted.. right down to which band was supposed to be playing during time outs. So if anyone was uncouth is was the Tigers band. because they played even when is was not their turn to play. I have a copy of the house marking script and so did each schools band directors. So why would you pay for a band to come all the way up here and then not even let them PLAY! Not only that, they gave them only 4 mins for halftime when there was plenty of time left to give them at least another 1min and a half.

Every time Southerns band tried to play the House staff jumped on the headsets and told them not too. So of course they were frustrated..

Even when is was Southern's turn to play the tigers band still jumped on the loudspeakers and played...

Old Miss band played damn near the whole game and no one ran in here saying they were uncouth or go back to where they came from.

[Image: JHVHT85V]


https://i.postimg.cc/NFL8jfyM/70724098-1...1264-n.jpg

Their band was great. And they were rude as hell. Heard damn near everybody sitting around my seats saying the same thing.. Got worse in the 4th quarter. It was atrocious and pretty obvious to everyone.
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All I know is some of you will find anything to be offended about.
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(09-08-2019 12:52 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  All I know is some of you will find anything to be offended about.

Offended? Hell no. Making an observation? Yes.
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Dude there were fewer than 7K, and I am being generous there, in the Liberty Bowl in the 4Q.

Let's address that.
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(09-08-2019 01:01 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Dude there were fewer than 7K, and I am being generous there, in the Liberty Bowl in the 4Q.

Let's address that.

What does that have to do with anything? I don't think your numbers are accurate but that's fine.
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(09-08-2019 12:46 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(09-08-2019 10:28 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  Wow it's some truly ignorant and racist things said in this thread, uncouth? go back where you came from? But hey in this day and age i would not expect anything less.

The game was heavily scripted.. right down to which band was supposed to be playing during time outs. So if anyone was uncouth is was the Tigers band. because they played even when is was not their turn to play. I have a copy of the house marking script and so did each schools band directors. So why would you pay for a band to come all the way up here and then not even let them PLAY! Not only that, they gave them only 4 mins for halftime when there was plenty of time left to give them at least another 1min and a half.

Every time Southerns band tried to play the House staff jumped on the headsets and told them not too. So of course they were frustrated..

Even when is was Southern's turn to play the tigers band still jumped on the loudspeakers and played...

Old Miss band played damn near the whole game and no one ran in here saying they were uncouth or go back to where they came from.

[Image: JHVHT85V]


https://i.postimg.cc/NFL8jfyM/70724098-1...1264-n.jpg

Their band was great. And they were rude as hell. Heard damn near everybody sitting around my seats saying the same thing.. Got worse in the 4th quarter. It was atrocious and pretty obvious to everyone.

I'm sure just showing up was atrocious and rude to you.
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