(08-27-2019 09:50 AM)TexanMark Wrote: I'm curious how JR has whitewashed the issues. As with any large fan base you have to take the downside of the idiot T-shirt fans along with the ******* alumni.
First we are talking about violence at events. There hasn't been any at an Auburn and Alabama game that amounted to any consequence since a killing at a game in the 20's.
That's not a whitewash just a fact. In non conference games we had a man and his pregnant wife struck by a gang of angry WVU fans when L.S.U. played in Morgantown, and this incident now in Orlando. Most SEC home venues have a State Trooper presence with the teams and bands, and sheriffs deputies working the inside of the venue. Drunks are escorted out if they get too rowdy.
The only violence I can remember occurred at Legion Field back in the early 80's and was a sober Alabama fan taking down a drunk one who had shoved an Auburn woman and her elderly husband and was screaming profanities. The sober Bama fan took him down with one punch and apologized to the Auburn people.
Among alumni there isn't much violence, and it's not a whitewash to say so, just fact.
Every venue has drunks. The question is how do authorities handle them and how far to they let them go before stepping in.
The other issue in Orlando was probably the loading facilities or lack thereof. At Auburn for instance the visiting bands can get off of their bus at a field level vehicle entrance and go into and out of the stadium without mingling with the crowd. I wish this were true at all SEC venues but the only one where bands can be intimidated is at L.S.U. where drunken fans rock the buses and frequently swear at the band. I know this first hand because my youngest daughter was in the Auburn Band.
Unsavory conduct at Jordan-Hare does not come from students, and almost always arises from non alumni fans. We own that because it is in our venue. What we don't own is when a Bama fan or Auburn fan shoots the the other outside of a bar in Birmingham or at some backyard game watching party in a rural town.
So Texan Mark the issue at hand is venue violence, not the drunken and deranged at locales outside of Auburn and Tuscaloosa. Updyke clearly is worse than the latter, but his violent act was not perpetrated at a venue, or even during a game. And for the record in over 40 years of attending events I've never even witnessed a drunken brawl at a baseball or basketball game. Those seem solely limited to football. At the baseball games our season tickets were with the visiting parents. It with very very few exceptions was always cordial, informative, and created social connections we and they looked forward to at future events.
Finebaum doesn't talk to alums very often. I would think the reason is he can't get them to say or do something he can lampoon and ridicule.
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Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
