RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
Miami is the one who wants to keep this series going, which is a rivalry that has really cooled off, but incidents like this continue to give the university a black eye. UF plans on scrapping this series, if I'm not mistaken, and I can see why.
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The article makes it sound like the Florida band director effectively started the altercation. The Miami fan was a little rude, cutting through the band, but the Florida director "tried to stop him."
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 06:44 AM)bullet Wrote:
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The article makes it sound like the Florida band director effectively started the altercation. The Miami fan was a little rude, cutting through the band, but the Florida director "tried to stop him."
Notre Dame has the Irish Guard to protect their marching band. They're big dudes who manhandle people out of the band's way. No need for a wimpy band director to confront anyone.
(This post was last modified: 08-26-2019 09:08 AM by Captain Bearcat.)
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 09:08 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:
(08-26-2019 06:44 AM)bullet Wrote:
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The article makes it sound like the Florida band director effectively started the altercation. The Miami fan was a little rude, cutting through the band, but the Florida director "tried to stop him."
Notre Dame has the Irish Guard to protect their marching band. They're big dudes who manhandle people out of the band's way. No need for a wimpy band director to confront anyone.
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 06:44 AM)bullet Wrote:
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The article makes it sound like the Florida band director effectively started the altercation. The Miami fan was a little rude, cutting through the band, but the Florida director "tried to stop him."
Yeah, I didn’t take it as this necessarily being all the fault of Miami fans. In any event, it’s amusing to see the coverage from a Florida State site about a Miami-UF altercation. They’re about as objective on this matter as InfoWars.
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-25-2019 11:21 PM)sierrajip Wrote: I am sure Alabama and Auburn have not had any rivalry issues. Miami is not a rivalry with UF, anyway.
Actually, Miami and Florida have played almost as many times, 56, as FSU and Miami have, 63; and as Florida and FSU have, also 63.
Miami vs Florida predates FSU vs Miami, heck it also predates Florida vs FSU, and when the teams play, it certainly has a rivalry feel to it, as it did Saturday night.
Just because teams don't play every year doesn't mean they aren't rivals.
(This post was last modified: 08-26-2019 11:19 AM by quo vadis.)
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The main reason Florida doesn't play Miami each year is that their schedule is already stacked. They play an SEC schedule*, enough said, plus have perennial power FSU as a permanent OOC game. Adding Miami permanently would just make the schedule too tough.
Nobody wants to admit it, but EVERY team needs a few cupcakes on the schedule as breather games.
* And one that isn't favorable, as the SEC forces them to play LSU every year as their one permanent cross-division game.
(This post was last modified: 08-26-2019 11:21 AM by quo vadis.)
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:
(08-25-2019 11:21 PM)sierrajip Wrote: I am sure Alabama and Auburn have not had any rivalry issues. Miami is not a rivalry with UF, anyway.
Actually, Miami and Florida have played almost as many times, 56, as FSU and Miami have, 63; and as Florida and FSU have, also 63.
Miami vs Florida predates FSU vs Miami, heck it also predates Florida vs FSU, and when the teams play, it certainly has a rivalry feel to it, as it did Saturday night.
Just because teams don't play every year doesn't mean they aren't rivals.
FSU and UF played each other pre-1905 if you count the schools that became both of them.
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 06:44 AM)bullet Wrote:
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The article makes it sound like the Florida band director effectively started the altercation. The Miami fan was a little rude, cutting through the band, but the Florida director "tried to stop him."
Yeah, this is a disturbingly bad take on things. The Band Director was thrown to the ground striking his head on the pavement, and a Florida band member was punched in the face. There was no report of anyone striking the Miami fans. It was a helluva lot more than rude. It crossed the line into an assault. And it was a group of Miami fans, not just one that was involved in the altercation.
The FSU band director is a friend of the UF band director. The germane point in all of this is that Florida should have assigned a couple of state troopers to the detail.
(This post was last modified: 08-26-2019 12:35 PM by JRsec.)
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 06:44 AM)bullet Wrote:
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The article makes it sound like the Florida band director effectively started the altercation. The Miami fan was a little rude, cutting through the band, but the Florida director "tried to stop him."
The Florida band director stopped a female Miami fan from walking through the band. Sounds like maybe he grabbed her, and then her boyfriend or male friend flipped out and took down the band director.
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 11:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The main reason Florida doesn't play Miami each year is that their schedule is already stacked. They play an SEC schedule*, enough said, plus have perennial power FSU as a permanent OOC game. Adding Miami permanently would just make the schedule too tough.
Nobody wants to admit it, but EVERY team needs a few cupcakes on the schedule as breather games.
* And one that isn't favorable, as the SEC forces them to play LSU every year as their one permanent cross-division game.
Not to mention UF plays UGA in Jacksonville every year. They have the FSU at home the years they only have 3 conference home games, so it creates a solidly aligned schedule.
To play another team home/home it means they only get 6 homes games. Obviously they are OK with doing that some years, but it isn't going to be something they sign up for every year.
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 12:36 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: If you want to see fans angry at a college band come to Houston in a few weeks when Baylor visits the Rice MOB. They're still mad about last game.
Just make sure you keep all the rice girls off campus while that Baylor team is there
RE: Florida State finally sees why UF isn't so fond of playing Miami
(08-26-2019 03:13 PM)Gamecock Wrote:
(08-26-2019 11:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:
(08-25-2019 11:07 PM)DawgNBama Wrote: This right here says volumes. And, I hate to say it from a rivalry standpoint, but I wouldn't be playing Miami for awhile because of this incident.
The main reason Florida doesn't play Miami each year is that their schedule is already stacked. They play an SEC schedule*, enough said, plus have perennial power FSU as a permanent OOC game. Adding Miami permanently would just make the schedule too tough.
Nobody wants to admit it, but EVERY team needs a few cupcakes on the schedule as breather games.
* And one that isn't favorable, as the SEC forces them to play LSU every year as their one permanent cross-division game.
Not to mention UF plays UGA in Jacksonville every year. They have the FSU at home the years they only have 3 conference home games, so it creates a solidly aligned schedule.
To play another team home/home it means they only get 6 homes games. Obviously they are OK with doing that some years, but it isn't going to be something they sign up for every year.
Ya, Florida would be playing
Miami
FSU
Georgia
LSU
...at minimum
I think a good idea would be to play every 4 years, so every senior class gets to play the rivalry once
You could apply the 4 year idea to Texas-Texas A&M, OU-Nebraska, Michigan-Notre Dame