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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
Trumps own words about trying to sleep with the married woman. He was all over her like a *****. How he can’t help himself around beautiful women. I just grab them by the *****.
We HAVE THE TAPE! Anybody that could vote for that guy after that. Then these 13 year old girls recollections. Where’s there’s smoke there’s fire. The feds have the blackmail sex tapes from Epstein’s safe. A lot of people will go down. You guys will believe what you want to believe. Trump’s own words aren’t enough for you even.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 09:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (07-11-2019 08:33 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 07:43 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (07-11-2019 05:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote: Anyone involved in sex or human trafficking deserves whatever punishment we can throw at them. Bill Clinton included. I suspect we'll hear of evil acts from both sides of the aisle and I hope all involved are prosecuted.
The fact that Clinton and Trump both had such close relationships with this scum is a smudge on their characters.
Typical misrepresentation from you leftist loons. Trump had no close relationship with the man. It's typical in that you cannot bring yourself to properly condemn the man without dragging Trump into it.
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Are you an idiot? That is total Trump slap in the face very public as well. It is Trump saying the dude likes minors. Who else on Planet Earth alerted people to Epstein before Trump? How many? 2002 Dude. The first person who publicly alerted Earth about Epstein was Trump.
Lolol so Trump knew he was a pedophile and it took 17 years for him to go down? K. You're as unhinged as mach is. Total nutjob.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 10:50 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (07-11-2019 08:33 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 07:43 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (07-11-2019 05:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote: Anyone involved in sex or human trafficking deserves whatever punishment we can throw at them. Bill Clinton included. I suspect we'll hear of evil acts from both sides of the aisle and I hope all involved are prosecuted.
The fact that Clinton and Trump both had such close relationships with this scum is a smudge on their characters.
Typical misrepresentation from you leftist loons. Trump had no close relationship with the man. It's typical in that you cannot bring yourself to properly condemn the man without dragging Trump into it.
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Are you an idiot? That is total Trump slap in the face very public as well. It is Trump saying the dude likes minors. Who else on Planet Earth alerted people to Epstein before Trump? How many? 2002 Dude. The first person who publicly alerted Earth about Epstein was Trump.
Lolol so Trump knew he was a pedophile and it took 17 years for him to go down? K. You're as unhinged as mach is. Total nutjob.
The really sad thing here JD is that this is too big to fail in microcosm, like the Hollywood producers couch, the wealthy mogul who was murdering homosexual men in L.A., and I promise you there are other super wealthy perverts out there besides this one, but they buy influence, intentionally expose those who give them power to the culpability of their crimes, and truly feel they are above the law.
I can't help but think of Dr. Hodel, the Kennedy's, some of the Robber Barons of the late 19th and early 20th century, and others. Wealth is too often its own defense. When you have a home large and sequestered enough and gated and guarded its hard for anyone to access evidence. But if Americans felt surprised by this then why is human trafficking of underaged boys and girls such a big business for the Mexican Cartels and not just one way traffic?
So my point is many may suspect, but few dare make accusations, because without tangible evidence not even a warrant will be issued and the business ramifications and political fallout from those who have been bought, and the lawsuits are too formidable of a defense for the guilty for anyone to even attempt a case without compelling evidence, or even mention it seriously.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 11:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-11-2019 10:50 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (07-11-2019 08:33 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 07:43 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: Typical misrepresentation from you leftist loons. Trump had no close relationship with the man. It's typical in that you cannot bring yourself to properly condemn the man without dragging Trump into it.
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Are you an idiot? That is total Trump slap in the face very public as well. It is Trump saying the dude likes minors. Who else on Planet Earth alerted people to Epstein before Trump? How many? 2002 Dude. The first person who publicly alerted Earth about Epstein was Trump.
Lolol so Trump knew he was a pedophile and it took 17 years for him to go down? K. You're as unhinged as mach is. Total nutjob.
The really sad thing here JD is that this is too big to fail in microcosm, like the Hollywood producers couch, the wealthy mogul who was murdering homosexual men in L.A., and I promise you there are other super wealthy perverts out there besides this one, but they buy influence, intentionally expose those who give them power to the culpability of their crimes, and truly feel they are above the law.
I can't help but think of Dr. Hodel, the Kennedy's, some of the Robber Barons of the late 19th and early 20th century, and others. Wealth is too often its own defense. When you have a home large and sequestered enough and gated and guarded its hard for anyone to access evidence. But if Americans felt surprised by this then why is human trafficking of underaged boys and girls such a big business for the Mexican Cartels and not just one way traffic?
So my point is many may suspect, but few dare make accusations, because without tangible evidence not even a warrant will be issued and the business ramifications and political fallout from those who have been bought, and the lawsuits are too formidable of a defense for the guilty for anyone to even attempt a case without compelling evidence, or even mention it seriously.
But according to captain nutjob, Trump WAS calling him out. So which is it? Trump actually liked the dude and had a good time with him (what I think) or he was trying to out the guy as a pedophile with masked words behind a false protestation of fondness and then never pursued justice further (nutjobs opinion).
Even worse, if Trump DID know he was so wretched and it took this long for him to come to justice.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
I feel gross from this thread... Bill and Donald can both rot.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 11:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote: I feel gross from this thread... Bill and Donald can both rot.
Everyone should feel gross from this thread J.D. But my point is when there are those in government who will protect the super wealthy some of which happen to be supreme sickos, nobody, not even those who know, will move until they feel confident that they have enough to make a difference. It's really not like calling out the guy in the raincoat near the school. It's more like trying to call out the school superintendent who is in league with the police commissioner and the wealthiest guy in town, and who buys publicity at the local church, or synagogue, and donates to the children's hospital, and has breakfast with Oprah. Who is going to believe just your accusation?
BTW, if Clinton was there, where was his small but still viable Secret Service Detail?
As for Trump he was a businessman in New York. I'm sure all of us who ever conducted business probably had some lunches, dinners, or outings with people we later wished we didn't know.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 11:20 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote: I feel gross from this thread... Bill and Donald can both rot.
Everyone should feel gross from this thread J.D. But my point is when there are those in government who will protect the super wealthy some of which happen to be supreme sickos, nobody, not even those who know, will move until they feel confident that they have enough to make a difference. It's really not like calling out the guy in the raincoat near the school. It's more like trying to call out the school superintendent who is in league with the police commissioner and the wealthiest guy in town, and who buys publicity at the local church, or synagogue, and donates to the children's hospital, and has breakfast with Oprah. Who is going to believe just your accusation?
All well and good and I dont disagree with your post. But do you really, REALLLLLLLLLY, deep down inside think trumps quote was a dig at Jeff Epstein or giving the guy a friendly shoutout. Because that's what I'm talking about.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 11:23 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:20 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote: I feel gross from this thread... Bill and Donald can both rot.
Everyone should feel gross from this thread J.D. But my point is when there are those in government who will protect the super wealthy some of which happen to be supreme sickos, nobody, not even those who know, will move until they feel confident that they have enough to make a difference. It's really not like calling out the guy in the raincoat near the school. It's more like trying to call out the school superintendent who is in league with the police commissioner and the wealthiest guy in town, and who buys publicity at the local church, or synagogue, and donates to the children's hospital, and has breakfast with Oprah. Who is going to believe just your accusation?
All well and good and I dont disagree with your post. But do you really, REALLLLLLLLLY, deep down inside think trumps quote was a dig at Jeff Epstein or giving the guy a friendly shoutout. Because that's what I'm talking about.
I honestly have no way of knowing and neither does anyone else. It's a big wait and see for me. If they do really start unwrapping this we will find out. If it gets sidetracked and half heartedly pursued we find out that way too.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 11:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-11-2019 10:50 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (07-11-2019 08:33 PM)JDTulane Wrote: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Are you an idiot? That is total Trump slap in the face very public as well. It is Trump saying the dude likes minors. Who else on Planet Earth alerted people to Epstein before Trump? How many? 2002 Dude. The first person who publicly alerted Earth about Epstein was Trump.
Lolol so Trump knew he was a pedophile and it took 17 years for him to go down? K. You're as unhinged as mach is. Total nutjob.
The really sad thing here JD is that this is too big to fail in microcosm, like the Hollywood producers couch, the wealthy mogul who was murdering homosexual men in L.A., and I promise you there are other super wealthy perverts out there besides this one, but they buy influence, intentionally expose those who give them power to the culpability of their crimes, and truly feel they are above the law.
I can't help but think of Dr. Hodel, the Kennedy's, some of the Robber Barons of the late 19th and early 20th century, and others. Wealth is too often its own defense. When you have a home large and sequestered enough and gated and guarded its hard for anyone to access evidence. But if Americans felt surprised by this then why is human trafficking of underaged boys and girls such a big business for the Mexican Cartels and not just one way traffic?
So my point is many may suspect, but few dare make accusations, because without tangible evidence not even a warrant will be issued and the business ramifications and political fallout from those who have been bought, and the lawsuits are too formidable of a defense for the guilty for anyone to even attempt a case without compelling evidence, or even mention it seriously.
But according to captain nutjob, Trump WAS calling him out. So which is it? Trump actually liked the dude and had a good time with him (what I think) or he was trying to out the guy as a pedophile with masked words behind a false protestation of fondness and then never pursued justice further (nutjobs opinion).
Even worse, if Trump DID know he was so wretched and it took this long for him to come to justice.
There are several missing pieces in your version. You need to educate yourself before bloviating over a topic about which you appear to know very little.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 11:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-11-2019 10:50 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (07-11-2019 08:33 PM)JDTulane Wrote: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Are you an idiot? That is total Trump slap in the face very public as well. It is Trump saying the dude likes minors. Who else on Planet Earth alerted people to Epstein before Trump? How many? 2002 Dude. The first person who publicly alerted Earth about Epstein was Trump.
Lolol so Trump knew he was a pedophile and it took 17 years for him to go down? K. You're as unhinged as mach is. Total nutjob.
The really sad thing here JD is that this is too big to fail in microcosm, like the Hollywood producers couch, the wealthy mogul who was murdering homosexual men in L.A., and I promise you there are other super wealthy perverts out there besides this one, but they buy influence, intentionally expose those who give them power to the culpability of their crimes, and truly feel they are above the law.
I can't help but think of Dr. Hodel, the Kennedy's, some of the Robber Barons of the late 19th and early 20th century, and others. Wealth is too often its own defense. When you have a home large and sequestered enough and gated and guarded its hard for anyone to access evidence. But if Americans felt surprised by this then why is human trafficking of underaged boys and girls such a big business for the Mexican Cartels and not just one way traffic?
So my point is many may suspect, but few dare make accusations, because without tangible evidence not even a warrant will be issued and the business ramifications and political fallout from those who have been bought, and the lawsuits are too formidable of a defense for the guilty for anyone to even attempt a case without compelling evidence, or even mention it seriously.
But according to captain nutjob, Trump WAS calling him out. So which is it? Trump actually liked the dude and had a good time with him (what I think) or he was trying to out the guy as a pedophile with masked words behind a false protestation of fondness and then never pursued justice further (nutjobs opinion).
Even worse, if Trump DID know he was so wretched and it took this long for him to come to justice.
According to Captain TDS I hate Trump, Trump could have made a Citizen's arrest in 2002.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-11-2019 11:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-11-2019 10:50 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (07-11-2019 08:33 PM)JDTulane Wrote: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Are you an idiot? That is total Trump slap in the face very public as well. It is Trump saying the dude likes minors. Who else on Planet Earth alerted people to Epstein before Trump? How many? 2002 Dude. The first person who publicly alerted Earth about Epstein was Trump.
Lolol so Trump knew he was a pedophile and it took 17 years for him to go down? K. You're as unhinged as mach is. Total nutjob.
The really sad thing here JD is that this is too big to fail in microcosm, like the Hollywood producers couch, the wealthy mogul who was murdering homosexual men in L.A., and I promise you there are other super wealthy perverts out there besides this one, but they buy influence, intentionally expose those who give them power to the culpability of their crimes, and truly feel they are above the law.
I can't help but think of Dr. Hodel, the Kennedys, some of the Robber Barons of the late 19th and early 20th century, and others. Wealth is too often its own defense. When you have a home large and sequestered enough and gated and guarded its hard for anyone to access evidence. But if Americans felt surprised by this then why is human trafficking of underaged boys and girls such a big business for the Mexican Cartels and not just one way traffic?
So my point is many may suspect, but few dare make accusations, because without tangible evidence not even a warrant will be issued and the business ramifications and political fallout from those who have been bought, and the lawsuits are too formidable of a defense for the guilty for anyone to even attempt a case without compelling evidence, or even mention it seriously.
But according to captain nutjob, Trump WAS calling him out. So which is it? Trump actually liked the dude and had a good time with him (what I think) or he was trying to out the guy as a pedophile with masked words behind a false protestation of fondness and then never pursued justice further (nutjobs opinion).
Even worse, if Trump DID know he was so wretched and it took this long for him to come to justice.
How about Trump liked the dude as a person but had some severe suspicions and reservations about the number of younger women around him, although he didn't have any smoking gun? That's what the facts--and not your thoughts--would seem to support.
In that situation, it would have been extremely risky to call it to the attention of law enforcement--slander, libel, invasion of privacy suits could and likely would follow.
I'm guessing that if you're like most people, you've had situations where you wondered if something might be going on, but had no facts to support your wondering. Trump was a private citizen when he made the comments, and I'm guessing something like that was the context.
At the end of the day, Bill Clinton's name appears on flight manifests, Donald Trump's has not so far. That being said, if he were eligible I would register democrat to vote for Bill Clinton in the primary against any democrat in the field.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-12-2019 06:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-11-2019 10:50 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Are you an idiot? That is total Trump slap in the face very public as well. It is Trump saying the dude likes minors. Who else on Planet Earth alerted people to Epstein before Trump? How many? 2002 Dude. The first person who publicly alerted Earth about Epstein was Trump.
Lolol so Trump knew he was a pedophile and it took 17 years for him to go down? K. You're as unhinged as mach is. Total nutjob.
The really sad thing here JD is that this is too big to fail in microcosm, like the Hollywood producers couch, the wealthy mogul who was murdering homosexual men in L.A., and I promise you there are other super wealthy perverts out there besides this one, but they buy influence, intentionally expose those who give them power to the culpability of their crimes, and truly feel they are above the law.
I can't help but think of Dr. Hodel, the Kennedys, some of the Robber Barons of the late 19th and early 20th century, and others. Wealth is too often its own defense. When you have a home large and sequestered enough and gated and guarded its hard for anyone to access evidence. But if Americans felt surprised by this then why is human trafficking of underaged boys and girls such a big business for the Mexican Cartels and not just one way traffic?
So my point is many may suspect, but few dare make accusations, because without tangible evidence not even a warrant will be issued and the business ramifications and political fallout from those who have been bought, and the lawsuits are too formidable of a defense for the guilty for anyone to even attempt a case without compelling evidence, or even mention it seriously.
But according to captain nutjob, Trump WAS calling him out. So which is it? Trump actually liked the dude and had a good time with him (what I think) or he was trying to out the guy as a pedophile with masked words behind a false protestation of fondness and then never pursued justice further (nutjobs opinion).
Even worse, if Trump DID know he was so wretched and it took this long for him to come to justice.
How about Trump liked the dude as a person but had some severe suspicions and reservations about the number of younger women around him, although he didn't have any smoking gun? That's what the facts--and not your thoughts--would seem to support.
In that situation, it would have been extremely risky to call it to the attention of law enforcement--slander, libel, invasion of privacy suits could and likely would follow.
I'm guessing that if you're like most people, you've had situations where you wondered if something might be going on, but had no facts to support your wondering. Trump was a private citizen when he made the comments, and I'm guessing something like that was the context.
At the end of the day, Bill Clinton's name appears on flight manifests, Donald Trump's has not so far. That being said, if he were eligible I would register democrat to vote for Bill Clinton in the primary against any democrat in the field.
Would you let a daughter work for him?
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-12-2019 08:05 AM)bullet Wrote: (07-12-2019 06:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-11-2019 10:50 PM)JDTulane Wrote: Lolol so Trump knew he was a pedophile and it took 17 years for him to go down? K. You're as unhinged as mach is. Total nutjob.
The really sad thing here JD is that this is too big to fail in microcosm, like the Hollywood producers couch, the wealthy mogul who was murdering homosexual men in L.A., and I promise you there are other super wealthy perverts out there besides this one, but they buy influence, intentionally expose those who give them power to the culpability of their crimes, and truly feel they are above the law.
I can't help but think of Dr. Hodel, the Kennedys, some of the Robber Barons of the late 19th and early 20th century, and others. Wealth is too often its own defense. When you have a home large and sequestered enough and gated and guarded its hard for anyone to access evidence. But if Americans felt surprised by this then why is human trafficking of underaged boys and girls such a big business for the Mexican Cartels and not just one way traffic?
So my point is many may suspect, but few dare make accusations, because without tangible evidence not even a warrant will be issued and the business ramifications and political fallout from those who have been bought, and the lawsuits are too formidable of a defense for the guilty for anyone to even attempt a case without compelling evidence, or even mention it seriously.
But according to captain nutjob, Trump WAS calling him out. So which is it? Trump actually liked the dude and had a good time with him (what I think) or he was trying to out the guy as a pedophile with masked words behind a false protestation of fondness and then never pursued justice further (nutjobs opinion).
Even worse, if Trump DID know he was so wretched and it took this long for him to come to justice.
How about Trump liked the dude as a person but had some severe suspicions and reservations about the number of younger women around him, although he didn't have any smoking gun? That's what the facts--and not your thoughts--would seem to support.
In that situation, it would have been extremely risky to call it to the attention of law enforcement--slander, libel, invasion of privacy suits could and likely would follow.
I'm guessing that if you're like most people, you've had situations where you wondered if something might be going on, but had no facts to support your wondering. Trump was a private citizen when he made the comments, and I'm guessing something like that was the context.
At the end of the day, Bill Clinton's name appears on flight manifests, Donald Trump's has not so far. That being said, if he were eligible I would register democrat to vote for Bill Clinton in the primary against any democrat in the field.
Would you let a daughter work for him?
Epstein? No. Trump? Yes. Clinton? No. Any other democrat? No.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
Acosta resigns as Labor Secretary.
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Acosta resigns. Good riddance.
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(07-12-2019 08:49 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: Acosta resigns. Good riddance.
I think we knew it was coming.... He's still got a ton to answer for though.
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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking of minors charges
(07-12-2019 08:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-12-2019 08:05 AM)bullet Wrote: (07-12-2019 06:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:04 PM)JRsec Wrote: The really sad thing here JD is that this is too big to fail in microcosm, like the Hollywood producers couch, the wealthy mogul who was murdering homosexual men in L.A., and I promise you there are other super wealthy perverts out there besides this one, but they buy influence, intentionally expose those who give them power to the culpability of their crimes, and truly feel they are above the law.
I can't help but think of Dr. Hodel, the Kennedys, some of the Robber Barons of the late 19th and early 20th century, and others. Wealth is too often its own defense. When you have a home large and sequestered enough and gated and guarded its hard for anyone to access evidence. But if Americans felt surprised by this then why is human trafficking of underaged boys and girls such a big business for the Mexican Cartels and not just one way traffic?
So my point is many may suspect, but few dare make accusations, because without tangible evidence not even a warrant will be issued and the business ramifications and political fallout from those who have been bought, and the lawsuits are too formidable of a defense for the guilty for anyone to even attempt a case without compelling evidence, or even mention it seriously.
But according to captain nutjob, Trump WAS calling him out. So which is it? Trump actually liked the dude and had a good time with him (what I think) or he was trying to out the guy as a pedophile with masked words behind a false protestation of fondness and then never pursued justice further (nutjobs opinion).
Even worse, if Trump DID know he was so wretched and it took this long for him to come to justice.
How about Trump liked the dude as a person but had some severe suspicions and reservations about the number of younger women around him, although he didn't have any smoking gun? That's what the facts--and not your thoughts--would seem to support.
In that situation, it would have been extremely risky to call it to the attention of law enforcement--slander, libel, invasion of privacy suits could and likely would follow.
I'm guessing that if you're like most people, you've had situations where you wondered if something might be going on, but had no facts to support your wondering. Trump was a private citizen when he made the comments, and I'm guessing something like that was the context.
At the end of the day, Bill Clinton's name appears on flight manifests, Donald Trump's has not so far. That being said, if he were eligible I would register democrat to vote for Bill Clinton in the primary against any democrat in the field.
Would you let a daughter work for him?
Epstein? No. Trump? Yes. Clinton? No. Any other democrat? No.
Why are we in the business of "letting" our daughters work anywhere? Seems to me in 2019 it should be THEIR choice and not YOURS.
That said. I find it laughable that you have no reservations "letting" your daughter work for President Grab em by the ***** but reject any and ALL democrats.
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