I think with the AAC and MWC are a step up closer to the P5, the other schools would want to move up. ODU is locked as protection, but they are spending at the AAC level. It would be hard for that school saying yes to big time conference.

clt says cusa is open to trade offers

If Big 10 trades Sun Belt etc for their spot, they should be limited by the pool of teams the Sun Belt would have been limited to.

Rice invites North Texas, Louisiana Tech, UTEP, Southern Mississippi and UTSA to a secret meeting at Hobby Airport.

Well done Fighting Muskie!

Big 10 traded for the Patriot's pick. The Patriot's pick was limited to FCS schools. Notre Dame isn't an FCS school. The Patriot should be allowed to pick a P5 program with their Big10 slot.

(05-15-2019 07:29 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Big 10 traded for the Patriot's pick. The Patriot's pick was limited to FCS schools. Notre Dame isn't an FCS school. The Patriot should be allowed to pick a P5 program with their Big10 slot.

You're not taking teams from that level of school, you're just repositioning yourself to take your level of school. For example, if I am running Conference USA and take the first pic I can't take Notre Dame I just reposition myself to potentially take a Houston or Temple.

(05-15-2019 07:45 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 07:29 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Big 10 traded for the Patriot's pick. The Patriot's pick was limited to FCS schools. Notre Dame isn't an FCS school. The Patriot should be allowed to pick a P5 program with their Big10 slot.

You're not taking teams from that level of school, you're just repositioning yourself to take your level of school. For example, if I am running Conference USA and take the first pic I can't take Notre Dame I just reposition myself to potentially take a Houston or Temple.

I think that is what clt has done. Position for Houston or Temple as first pick. If it is Temple, Sunbelt grabs Houston.

By the way, I don't know if this was made clear. It seems as if the real value for teams like a patriot league to take a g5, or for a g5 to take a p5 team would be end the draft free agents.

When are those designated, and is there an order for selecting those teams?

For example, if CUSA has seven picks now and we trade away four of them, are we able to take four available free agents at the end of the draft? And then if so, what order are those able to be claimed?

(05-13-2019 07:35 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Im home sick so I decided to do my own conference realignment draft.

I would run it more like a supplemental draft to keep Bama out of CUSA and Ohio St out of the Sun Belt. Lets say the conferences can hold onto 4 of their current members if they choose to before the selecting starts. So for arguments sake the G5 wont want to keep anyone but the P5 can protect their big boys.

SEC - Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida
ACC - Clemson, FSU, UNC, Duke
XII - Texas, OU, KU, Texas Tech
PAC 12 - USC, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA
B1G - OSU, UM, UW, PSU

Round 1:
CUSA - Virginia
Sun Belt - Auburn
MAC - Notre Dame
MWC - Washington
AAC - Virginia tech
PAC 12 - Arizona
ACC - Louisville
XII - A&M
B1G - Iowa
SEC - Tennessee

Round 2:
SEC - Kentucky
B1G - Nebraska
XII - Arkansas
ACC - Vanderbilt
PAC - Cal
AAC - Maryland
MWC - Utah
MAC - Illinois
Sun Belt - Miami
CUSA - South Carolina

Round 3:
CUSA - NC State
Sun Belt - Ole Miss
MAC - Indiana
MWC - ASU
AAC - WVU
PAC - Colorado
ACC - BC
XII - Missouri
B1G - Michigan State
SEC - Miss State
*All SEC schools are off the board

Round 4:
SEC - TCU
B1G - Northwestern
XII - OK State
ACC - Syracuse
PAC - WSU
AAC - Pitt
MWC - Oregon State
MAC - Minnesota
Sun Belt - Georgia Tech
CUSA - UCF (First G5 school chosen)
*All PAC schools are off the board

Round 5:
CUSA - USF
Sun Belt - Wake Forest
MAC - Iowa State
MWC - Boise State
AAC - Rutgers
PAC - Nevada
ACC - Cincy
XII - CSU
B1G - Purdue
SEC - Houston
*All ACC/B1G schools are off the board

Round 6:

SEC - Memphis
B1G - KSU
XII - Baylor
ACC - UConn
PAC - SD State
AAC - Temple
MWC - BYU
MAC - Miami (OH)
Sun Belt - ECU
CUSA - UAB
*All XII schools are off the board

Round 7:

CUSA - Tulane
Sun Belt - Navy
MAC - WKU
MWC - Fresno State
AAC - Buffalo
PAC - Hawaii
ACC - Marshall
XII - New Mexico
B1G - No. Illinois
SEC - Tulsa
*All AAC schools off the board

Round 8:

SEC - Charlotte
B1G - Ohio
XII - Utah State
ACC - Midd Tennessee
PAC - UNLV
AAC - UMass
MWC - Wyoming
MAC - Western Michigan
Sun Belt - Old Dominion
CUSA - Southern Miss

Round 9:

CUSA - Ark State
Sun Belt - LA Tech
MAC - Toledo
MWC - Air Force
AAC - Army
PAC - Idaho
ACC - App State
XII - UTEP
B1G - Bowling Green
SEC - Liberty

Round 10:

SEC - Coastal Carolina
B1G - Ball State
XII - Texas State
ACC - Troy
PAC - Montana (First FCS school taken)
AAC - Deleware
MWC - San Jose State
MAC - Central Michigan
Sun Belt - Rice
CUSA - Georgia Southern
*All MWC schools are off the board
* The P5 are done choosing schools

Round 11:

CUSA - S Alabama
Sun Belt - Georgia State
MAC - Northern Iowa
MWC - New Mexico State
AAC - Akron

Round 12:

AAC - Jame Madison
MWC - North Dakota State
MAC - South Dakota State
Sun Belt - Louisiana Lafayette
CUSA - FIU

Round 13:

CUSA - UL Monroe
Sun Belt - FAU
MAC - Missouri State
MWC - N Texas
AAC - E. Michigan

Round 14:

AAC - Maine
MWC - UTSA
MAC - Illinois State
Sun Belt - Wofford
CUSA - Kennesaw State

SEC
Bama
Florida
LSU
Georgia
Tenn
UK
Miss St
TCU
Houston
Memphis
Tulsa
Charolette
Liberty
Coastal Carolina

B1G
OSU
UM
Wisc
PSU
Iowa
Nebraska
MSU
NW
Purdue
KSU
No Illinois
Ohio
Bowling Green
Ball State

XII
Texas
OU
Kansas
Texas Tech
A&M
Arkansas
Mizz
Ok St
CSU
Baylor
New Mexico
Utah State
UTEP
Texas State

ACC
Clemson
FSU
UNC
Duke
Louisville
Vanderbilt
BC
Cuse
Cincy
Uconn
Marshall
Middle Tennessee
App State
Troy

Pac
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Stanford
Arizona
Cal
Colorado
WSU
Nevada
SD State
Hawaii
UNLV
Idaho
Montana

AAC
VT
Maryland
WVU
Pitt
Rutgers
Temple
Buffalo
Umass
Army
Delaware
Akron
James Madison
E. Michigan
Maine

MWC
Wash
Utah
ASU
Ore St
Boise
BYU
Fresno
Wyoming
Air Force
San Jose State
N Mexico State
No. Dakota State
N. Texas
UTSA

MAC
ND
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa St
Minnesota
Miami (OH)
WKU
W. Michigan
Toledo
C. Michigan
Kent State
So. Dakota State
Mizz State
Illinois State

Sun Belt
Auburn
Miami
Ole Miss
G Tech
Wake
ECU
Navy
ODU
La Tech
Rice
Georgia State
Louis Lafayette
FAU
Wofford

CUSA
UVA
S Carolina
NC State
UCF
USF
UAB
Tulane
S. Miss
Ark State
Georgia Southern
S. Alabama
FIU
UL Monroe
Kennesaw State

I like this one.

(05-15-2019 07:45 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 07:29 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Big 10 traded for the Patriot's pick. The Patriot's pick was limited to FCS schools. Notre Dame isn't an FCS school. The Patriot should be allowed to pick a P5 program with their Big10 slot.

You're not taking teams from that level of school, you're just repositioning yourself to take your level of school. For example, if I am running Conference USA and take the first pic I can't take Notre Dame I just reposition myself to potentially take a Houston or Temple.

You've basically created a round before the first. There were only 5 P5 picks available per round. The FCS conferences have no competition so you used their pick to create more P5 slots beforehand?

Here is a scenario...What if colleges drafted players along with the NFL? So you reverse order rank the schools then same with the NFL. NFL picks from college students and colleges pick high schoolers. Do you think it would be fair for the Patriots to swap places with EMU to take the best college player in the country when EMU could have only taken the best high school player?

The Big-10 and patriot swap/ trade should definitely not go through. Its an even swap of picks where the Big-10 goes from almost last to first in 3 different rounds and they don't give up any extra picks.

If the Big10 really wants JMU, then swapping with the Patriot would be cool. If Pac12 wanted Boise or Houston then I think swapping with G5 is cool. You shouldn't be able to pick a team that wasn't available for the original owners of the slot.

(05-15-2019 08:24 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  If the Big10 really wants JMU, then swapping with the Patriot would be cool. If Pac12 wanted Boise or Houston then I think swapping with G5 is cool. You shouldn't be able to pick a team that wasn't available for the original owners of the slot.

Have your GM Hokie Mark discuss with other GM's in the pinned thread to come up with a conclusion. I can see both sides of the argument so I think that's the best solution.

Nothing was made explicit that if you made a trade that the recipient was limited to the same pool as the original owner of the bid. If we are going to play like that then the trades should be rescinded.

Don't be mad that the Big Ten was aggressive in its pursuit of solid programs.

WWJDD--what would Jim Delaney Do?

(05-15-2019 08:18 AM)benny_t Wrote:  The Big-10 and patriot swap/ trade should definitely not go through. Its an even swap of picks where the Big-10 goes from almost last to first in 3 different rounds and they don't give up any extra picks.

Patriot will get the first pick in the second round, if I'm seeing that correctly. So that they would get the last pick in the first round and the first pick in the second round.

I don't know, you may be right. It seems a Big Ten commissioner is getting the better end of that trade.

(05-15-2019 08:46 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Nothing was made explicit that if you made a trade that the recipient was limited to the same pool as the original owner of the bid. If we are going to play like that then the trades should be rescinded.

Don't be mad that the Big Ten was aggressive in its pursuit of solid programs.

WWJDD--what would Jim Delaney Do?

Love it!

WWJDD - Strike first, strike hard, and let everyone else play catch up.

(05-15-2019 08:18 AM)benny_t Wrote:  The Big-10 and patriot swap/ trade should definitely not go through. Its an even swap of picks where the Big-10 goes from almost last to first in 3 different rounds and they don't give up any extra picks.

I'd label that as wonderful negotiating!

(05-15-2019 08:46 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Nothing was made explicit that if you made a trade that the recipient was limited to the same pool as the original owner of the bid. If we are going to play like that then the trades should be rescinded.

Don't be mad that the Big Ten was aggressive in its pursuit of solid programs.

WWJDD--what would Jim Delaney Do?

Agreed. Play on.

(05-15-2019 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-15-2019 08:46 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Nothing was made explicit that if you made a trade that the recipient was limited to the same pool as the original owner of the bid. If we are going to play like that then the trades should be rescinded.

Don't be mad that the Big Ten was aggressive in its pursuit of solid programs.

WWJDD--what would Jim Delaney Do?

Agreed. Play on.

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