(04-03-2019 09:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 09:06 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Pathological liar. Don't know why people pretend otherwise. Liar's got you lying to yourselves.

So, basically he's learning to be a normal politician.

Their lies are believable. His are absurd.

(04-03-2019 08:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 07:32 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Maybe this is what gets him impeached.

Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

And what about things like this, that happen more than once:

You're honestly going to tell me that if Obama or Hillary or Biden started speaking like this that you wouldn't begin to question their mental competency? Puhleeze!

Eh, I put no more credence on this than when Obama said that stuff about 57 states, etc. They both misspoke. Difference is you don't like Trump so he's now mentally deranged whereas you liked Obama so that was nothing. In reality, they both misspoke and partisans on each side make a mountain out of a molehill. So, in short, this is nothing but partisan politics.

That 57 states told a lot about Obama. Not that he was an unbelievable moron, but that he was politician through and through. The Democratic convention has 57 delegations-50 states, DC, 5 territories and Democrats abroad.

I remember the first time McCain slurred his words. Maybe it's brain cancer. If he didn't pay his doctors extra to give him fake reports (bone spurs), we'd probably know what it really is.

(04-03-2019 09:36 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  I remember the first time McCain slurred his words. Maybe it's brain cancer. If he didn't pay his doctors extra to give him fake reports (bone spurs), we'd probably know what it really is.

Very good brain.

Liberalism is a sickness

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

I don't know, maybe the same thing that caused Obama to say "57 states," whatever that was.

More to the point, he's been a businessman, not a politician. His forte has been doing deals, not making speeches. I know plenty of very smart people who misspeak when speaking in public. Some are just bad speakers, because it's not what they are accustomed to doing. Dr. Denton Cooley, the famed heart surgeon, was a godawful public speaker, and I don't think anyone ever debated his mental acuity.

But Cooley did have one good off-the-cuff comment. At a trial, he was asked on the stand if he was the best heart surgeon in the world and he said yes. The attorney followed with, "Don't you think that may be a bit immodest?" Cooley replied, "Yes, but I am under oat." I could see Trump saying something like that if asked if he were the best anything.

He tends to be impulsive when speaking, saying whatever pops into his mouth. People who do that often misspeak without realizing it. That's something that tends to be pretty typical of populists.

I'd take a million of these over one, "If you like your doctor ..." or, "The police acted stupidly." And God knows I'd take a billion of them over Obama's disgusting speech at the memorial for the slain Dallas police officers.

(04-03-2019 09:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

I don't know, maybe the same thing that caused Obama to say "57 states," whatever that was.

More to the point, he's been a businessman, not a politician. His forte has been doing deals, not making speeches. I know plenty of very smart people who misspeak when speaking in public. Some are just bad speakers, because it's not what they are accustomed to doing. Dr. Denton Cooley, the famed heart surgeon, was a godawful public speaker, and I don't think anyone ever debated his mental acuity.

But Cooley did have one good off-the-cuff comment. At a trial, he was asked on the stand if he was the best heart surgeon in the world and he said yes. The attorney followed with, "Don't you think that may be a bit immodest?" Cooley replied, "Yes, but I am under oat." I could see Trump saying something like that if asked if he were the best anything.

He tends to be impulsive when speaking, saying whatever pops into his mouth. People who do that often misspeak without realizing it. That's something that tends to be pretty typical of populists.

I'd take a million of these over one, "If you like your doctor ..." or, "The police acted stupidly." And God knows I'd take a billion of them over Obama's disgusting speech at the memorial for the slain Dallas police officers.

Obama meant 57 states and territories.

(04-03-2019 09:28 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 09:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 09:06 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Pathological liar. Don't know why people pretend otherwise. Liar's got you lying to yourselves.

So, basically he's learning to be a normal politician.

Their lies are believable. His are absurd.

So, are you saying one is preferable to the other?

And to think, we have nearly 6 more years of this.

#RentFreeAndButthurt

(04-03-2019 09:55 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 09:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

I don't know, maybe the same thing that caused Obama to say "57 states," whatever that was.

More to the point, he's been a businessman, not a politician. His forte has been doing deals, not making speeches. I know plenty of very smart people who misspeak when speaking in public. Some are just bad speakers, because it's not what they are accustomed to doing. Dr. Denton Cooley, the famed heart surgeon, was a godawful public speaker, and I don't think anyone ever debated his mental acuity.

But Cooley did have one good off-the-cuff comment. At a trial, he was asked on the stand if he was the best heart surgeon in the world and he said yes. The attorney followed with, "Don't you think that may be a bit immodest?" Cooley replied, "Yes, but I am under oat." I could see Trump saying something like that if asked if he were the best anything.

He tends to be impulsive when speaking, saying whatever pops into his mouth. People who do that often misspeak without realizing it. That's something that tends to be pretty typical of populists.

I'd take a million of these over one, "If you like your doctor ..." or, "The police acted stupidly." And God knows I'd take a billion of them over Obama's disgusting speech at the memorial for the slain Dallas police officers.

Obama meant 57 states and territories.

Did he know that or did he have to ask one of those Navy Corpsemen?

(04-03-2019 09:28 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 09:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 09:06 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Pathological liar. Don't know why people pretend otherwise. Liar's got you lying to yourselves.

So, basically he's learning to be a normal politician.

Their lies are believable. His are absurd.

Like "I did not have sex with that woman......"

(04-03-2019 09:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

I don't know, maybe the same thing that caused Obama to say "57 states," whatever that was.

More to the point, he's been a businessman, not a politician. His forte has been doing deals, not making speeches. I know plenty of very smart people who misspeak when speaking in public. Some are just bad speakers, because it's not what they are accustomed to doing. Dr. Denton Cooley, the famed heart surgeon, was a godawful public speaker, and I don't think anyone ever debated his mental acuity.

But Cooley did have one good off-the-cuff comment. At a trial, he was asked on the stand if he was the best heart surgeon in the world and he said yes. The attorney followed with, "Don't you think that may be a bit immodest?" Cooley replied, "Yes, but I am under oat." I could see Trump saying something like that if asked if he were the best anything.

He tends to be impulsive when speaking, saying whatever pops into his mouth. People who do that often misspeak without realizing it. That's something that tends to be pretty typical of populists.

I'd take a million of these over one, "If you like your doctor ..." or, "The police acted stupidly." And God knows I'd take a billion of them over Obama's disgusting speech at the memorial for the slain Dallas police officers.

Obama was tired is the most likely reason for his statement. That being said, we've covered this to no end and as I've pointed out numerous times, he didn't say 57 states. He said, 50...then paused and said 7. He realized that no, he had not visited all 50 states, but rather 47. Hence the 7. He just left out the 40 part. As you'll see, he says that he will not visit 2 of the 3 remaining states that he hasn't visited yet.






Perhaps trump would be less tired if he didn't get up to tweet at 3:47 in the morning!

At least Trump knows there are not 57 states.


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(04-03-2019 10:36 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 09:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

I don't know, maybe the same thing that caused Obama to say "57 states," whatever that was.

Obama was tired is the most likely reason for his statement. That being said, we've covered this to no end and as I've pointed out numerous times, he didn't say 57 states. He said, 50...then paused and said 7. He realized that no, he had not visited all 50 states, but rather 47. Hence the 7. He just left out the 40 part. As you'll see, he says that he will not visit 2 of the 3 remaining states that he hasn't visited yet.

Where did I not say, "maybe the same thing that caused Obama to say '57 states'"? I'd put about as much stock in one as the other.

I'm laughing at the people making excuses/having explanations for what Obama said... and stating it as a fact, as if that is what the 'official' story was...

but in complete disagreement with each other.

One saying he meant 47, the other saying he meant 50, plus the territories. Of course the 50, plus the territories DOES jibe with him being more in tune with the party than the country, but whatever...

Meaning that even his staunchest supporters (or to use the apparently politically correct term, apologists) don't know with certainty why he said it.... but we all know there aren't 57 STATES, as does he.

For the record, my father only recently discovered where HE was actually born. The family story had been wrong for more than 3/4 of a century. His birth certificate is wrong.

(04-03-2019 09:55 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 09:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

I don't know, maybe the same thing that caused Obama to say "57 states," whatever that was.

More to the point, he's been a businessman, not a politician. His forte has been doing deals, not making speeches. I know plenty of very smart people who misspeak when speaking in public. Some are just bad speakers, because it's not what they are accustomed to doing. Dr. Denton Cooley, the famed heart surgeon, was a godawful public speaker, and I don't think anyone ever debated his mental acuity.

But Cooley did have one good off-the-cuff comment. At a trial, he was asked on the stand if he was the best heart surgeon in the world and he said yes. The attorney followed with, "Don't you think that may be a bit immodest?" Cooley replied, "Yes, but I am under oat." I could see Trump saying something like that if asked if he were the best anything.

He tends to be impulsive when speaking, saying whatever pops into his mouth. People who do that often misspeak without realizing it. That's something that tends to be pretty typical of populists.

I'd take a million of these over one, "If you like your doctor ..." or, "The police acted stupidly." And God knows I'd take a billion of them over Obama's disgusting speech at the memorial for the slain Dallas police officers.

Obama meant 57 states and territories.

There are NOT 57 states and territories. "Democrats abroad" is not a state and territory. He was confusing states with democratic delegations because all he thought about was politics.

(04-03-2019 09:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

I don't know, maybe the same thing that caused Obama to say "57 states," whatever that was.
More to the point, he's been a businessman, not a politician. His forte has been doing deals, not making speeches. I know plenty of very smart people who misspeak when speaking in public. Some are just bad speakers, because it's not what they are accustomed to doing. Dr. Denton Cooley, the famed heart surgeon, was a godawful public speaker, and I don't think anyone ever debated his mental acuity.
But Cooley did have one good off-the-cuff comment. At a trial, he was asked on the stand if he was the best heart surgeon in the world and he said yes. The attorney followed with, "Don't you think that may be a bit immodest?" Cooley replied, "Yes, but I am under oat." I could see Trump saying something like that if asked if he were the best anything.
He tends to be impulsive when speaking, saying whatever pops into his mouth. People who do that often misspeak without realizing it. That's something that tends to be pretty typical of populists.
I'd take a million of these over one, "If you like your doctor ..." or, "The police acted stupidly." And God knows I'd take a billion of them over Obama's disgusting speech at the memorial for the slain Dallas police officers.

Here's what I was looking for:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/7411/7-di...en-shapiro

Say what you want about the source. Shooting the messenger doesn't change two things: 1) he said those things, and 2) they are truly despicable.

Had I been present, I would have walked out.

There is no need to defend Obama's one or two mistakes when you literally have hundreds of Trump goofs to respond with. And a few more years of goofs to come.

(04-03-2019 08:12 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-03-2019 08:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, what do you attribute these repeated misstatements too? Not being a polished politician? Mental problems, Playing 4D chess, What?

I absolutely think that being 72/73 is a big part of it. Call it “mental competency” if you like. I’d call them “senior moments”. Yeah there comes a point at which it could hurt him politically but as of now we are a long way from that.

My honest reaction was that Trump said “father” when he meant to say “grandfather”.

This^