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Um, looking at that Red Sox-Yanks box score from London, something seems wrong. MLB might need to figure things out differently logistics-wise next time they try this in London.

(06-29-2019 05:01 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Um, looking at that Red Sox-Yanks box score from London, something seems wrong. MLB might need to figure things out differently logistics-wise next time they try this in London.

Or East Coast teams are figuring out what West Coast teams deal with all the time

(06-29-2019 05:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 05:01 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Um, looking at that Red Sox-Yanks box score from London, something seems wrong. MLB might need to figure things out differently logistics-wise next time they try this in London.

Or East Coast teams are figuring out what West Coast teams deal with all the time

Dodgers don't seem to be having too much of a problem.
I'm talking more about the Coors Field-like box score, and that both starters didn't even get out of the first inning. As good as those two teams are, that can't be right. Schilling and Johnson didn't have a problem either. When the talent is there the East Coast/West Coast thing is negated. What seems to be going on in London appears much different than what you allude to.

Oh heck yeah! Thank you Seth Lugo. Markakis and Riley with two 8th-inning dingers. Braves win 5-4! God bless the New York Mess! (Wasme and PhilMe also lost today. Added bonus!)

(06-29-2019 06:23 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 05:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 05:01 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Um, looking at that Red Sox-Yanks box score from London, something seems wrong. MLB might need to figure things out differently logistics-wise next time they try this in London.

Or East Coast teams are figuring out what West Coast teams deal with all the time

Dodgers don't seem to be having too much of a problem.
I'm talking more about the Coors Field-like box score, and that both starters didn't even get out of the first inning. As good as those two teams are, that can't be right. Schilling and Johnson didn't have a problem either. When the talent is there the East Coast/West Coast thing is negated. What seems to be going on in London appears much different than what you allude to.

Word is the atmosphere at the stadium might have played a role in stifling the break on breaking pitches. Don't know if it's true, but it's what some of the players are saying

going to be a long plane trip back for the Red Sox. Right now the division is almost gone, if they wind up losing today down 11 games with 80ish to go. Could be 3 back in the wild card race as well....

(06-30-2019 09:09 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 06:23 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Dodgers don't seem to be having too much of a problem.
I'm talking more about the Coors Field-like box score, and that both starters didn't even get out of the first inning. As good as those two teams are, that can't be right. Schilling and Johnson didn't have a problem either. When the talent is there the East Coast/West Coast thing is negated. What seems to be going on in London appears much different than what you allude to.

Word is the atmosphere at the stadium might have played a role in stifling the break on breaking pitches. Don't know if it's true, but it's what some of the players are saying

Today's game too, to a lesser extent. Was wondering if they'll do some more testing on this kind of thing.

Meanwhile, Braves BP meltdown in 8th. And Swarzak's on 10-day DL.. Shoulder problems resurfaced. Not good.

edit: Yup. 5-8. W and P won today so we gave that game we picked up last night right back. frustrating, just a bit.

(05-25-2019 05:55 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well that's one way to not let the bullpen screw you.... have your starter throw a CG shutout. Corbin with it today.... What's great about it for the Nats and made it so easy to decide to do it is that he's got an extra day before his next start on Friday.

These next few weeks huge for the Nats. Schedule outside the Braves is pretty easy. Only 17 of 39 vs winning teams from now thru the all star break- with of those 17- 4 vs Arizona(1 game over) and 4 with the Padres. Really only the 5 vs Braves and 4 with Phillies really tough games before the all star break.

Well, I think the Nats really have taken advantage of this stretch of 39 games- 23-10 so far(best winning pct. in MLB in the time). Done what you absolutely need to do. Got 6 more to really make noise with. Go 5-1 or 6-0 and wow. Only 1.5 back now of the 2nd wild card and really only 7 back of the division right now. And Atlanta/Philly have 3 games h2h here so if Nats win, they're going to gain ground on one of them at least.

It's that fun day again...

Man, if this was Jesse Orosco or John Franco collecting this money, I'd require them to actualy pitch now in the Mets bullpen to get the money. Those guys couldn't be any worse than the fire can toting guys that is the Mets bullpen.

(07-01-2019 12:09 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-25-2019 05:55 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well that's one way to not let the bullpen screw you.... have your starter throw a CG shutout. Corbin with it today.... What's great about it for the Nats and made it so easy to decide to do it is that he's got an extra day before his next start on Friday.

These next few weeks huge for the Nats. Schedule outside the Braves is pretty easy. Only 17 of 39 vs winning teams from now thru the all star break- with of those 17- 4 vs Arizona(1 game over) and 4 with the Padres. Really only the 5 vs Braves and 4 with Phillies really tough games before the all star break.

Well, I think the Nats really have taken advantage of this stretch of 39 games- 23-10 so far(best winning pct. in MLB in the time). Done what you absolutely need to do. Got 6 more to really make noise with. Go 5-1 or 6-0 and wow. Only 1.5 back now of the 2nd wild card and really only 7 back of the division right now. And Atlanta/Philly have 3 games h2h here so if Nats win, they're going to gain ground on one of them at least.

So here's a question: let's assume the Nats make the playoffs. In order to make noise, they have to add to the pen, right? I mean, by ERA- their pen is dead last in MLB.

(07-01-2019 08:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:09 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-25-2019 05:55 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well that's one way to not let the bullpen screw you.... have your starter throw a CG shutout. Corbin with it today.... What's great about it for the Nats and made it so easy to decide to do it is that he's got an extra day before his next start on Friday.

These next few weeks huge for the Nats. Schedule outside the Braves is pretty easy. Only 17 of 39 vs winning teams from now thru the all star break- with of those 17- 4 vs Arizona(1 game over) and 4 with the Padres. Really only the 5 vs Braves and 4 with Phillies really tough games before the all star break.

Well, I think the Nats really have taken advantage of this stretch of 39 games- 23-10 so far(best winning pct. in MLB in the time). Done what you absolutely need to do. Got 6 more to really make noise with. Go 5-1 or 6-0 and wow. Only 1.5 back now of the 2nd wild card and really only 7 back of the division right now. And Atlanta/Philly have 3 games h2h here so if Nats win, they're going to gain ground on one of them at least.

So here's a question: let's assume the Nats make the playoffs. In order to make noise, they have to add to the pen, right? I mean, by ERA- their pen is dead last in MLB.

Yeah you would have to think so. However, if they can just perform like they did in June- they'll be ok. In June a 4.54 ERA which is #15. But a 3.80 FIP, which was #5 in all of MLB. The only guy who had a bad June and is still around is Rainey, and he had a 6.00 ERA for the month. If you look at just who is active right now, so no Rosenthal(released), Barraclaugh(DL), Ross(minors)- the current pen had a 3.32 ERA for June. In 2019, that'll play, especially when you can do like the Nats did yesterday- 8 from Scherzer and then Doolittle for the save.

For me- I'd like to see the Nats get maybe like 1 more relief piece and then a 4th outfielder type. The lineup is very solid now. Rotation is really good.

The one thing IMO to watch is Zimmerman. He's back now, but with Kendrick and Adams doing both so well- I don't know how much of a leash he'll be on.

(07-01-2019 08:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:09 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-25-2019 05:55 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well that's one way to not let the bullpen screw you.... have your starter throw a CG shutout. Corbin with it today.... What's great about it for the Nats and made it so easy to decide to do it is that he's got an extra day before his next start on Friday.

These next few weeks huge for the Nats. Schedule outside the Braves is pretty easy. Only 17 of 39 vs winning teams from now thru the all star break- with of those 17- 4 vs Arizona(1 game over) and 4 with the Padres. Really only the 5 vs Braves and 4 with Phillies really tough games before the all star break.

Well, I think the Nats really have taken advantage of this stretch of 39 games- 23-10 so far(best winning pct. in MLB in the time). Done what you absolutely need to do. Got 6 more to really make noise with. Go 5-1 or 6-0 and wow. Only 1.5 back now of the 2nd wild card and really only 7 back of the division right now. And Atlanta/Philly have 3 games h2h here so if Nats win, they're going to gain ground on one of them at least.

So here's a question: let's assume the Nats make the playoffs. In order to make noise, they have to add to the pen, right? I mean, by ERA- their pen is dead last in MLB.

Yeah you would have to think so. However, if they can just perform like they did in June- they'll be ok. In June a 4.54 ERA which is #15. But a 3.80 FIP, which was #5 in all of MLB. The only guy who had a bad June and is still around is Rainey, and he had a 6.00 ERA for the month. If you look at just who is active right now, so no Rosenthal(released), Barraclaugh(DL), Ross(minors)- the current pen had a 3.32 ERA for June. In 2019, that'll play, especially when you can do like the Nats did yesterday- 8 from Scherzer and then Doolittle for the save.

For me- I'd like to see the Nats get maybe like 1 more relief piece and then a 4th outfielder type. The lineup is very solid now. Rotation is really good.

The one thing IMO to watch is Zimmerman. He's back now, but with Kendrick and Adams doing both so well- I don't know how much of a leash he'll be on.

Had a feeling this was coming. All of a sudden Nats have a top pen! So there are no flaws.

(07-01-2019 08:46 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:09 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-25-2019 05:55 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well that's one way to not let the bullpen screw you.... have your starter throw a CG shutout. Corbin with it today.... What's great about it for the Nats and made it so easy to decide to do it is that he's got an extra day before his next start on Friday.

These next few weeks huge for the Nats. Schedule outside the Braves is pretty easy. Only 17 of 39 vs winning teams from now thru the all star break- with of those 17- 4 vs Arizona(1 game over) and 4 with the Padres. Really only the 5 vs Braves and 4 with Phillies really tough games before the all star break.

Well, I think the Nats really have taken advantage of this stretch of 39 games- 23-10 so far(best winning pct. in MLB in the time). Done what you absolutely need to do. Got 6 more to really make noise with. Go 5-1 or 6-0 and wow. Only 1.5 back now of the 2nd wild card and really only 7 back of the division right now. And Atlanta/Philly have 3 games h2h here so if Nats win, they're going to gain ground on one of them at least.

So here's a question: let's assume the Nats make the playoffs. In order to make noise, they have to add to the pen, right? I mean, by ERA- their pen is dead last in MLB.

Yeah you would have to think so. However, if they can just perform like they did in June- they'll be ok. In June a 4.54 ERA which is #15. But a 3.80 FIP, which was #5 in all of MLB. The only guy who had a bad June and is still around is Rainey, and he had a 6.00 ERA for the month. If you look at just who is active right now, so no Rosenthal(released), Barraclaugh(DL), Ross(minors)- the current pen had a 3.32 ERA for June. In 2019, that'll play, especially when you can do like the Nats did yesterday- 8 from Scherzer and then Doolittle for the save.

For me- I'd like to see the Nats get maybe like 1 more relief piece and then a 4th outfielder type. The lineup is very solid now. Rotation is really good.

The one thing IMO to watch is Zimmerman. He's back now, but with Kendrick and Adams doing both so well- I don't know how much of a leash he'll be on.

Had a feeling this was coming. All of a sudden Nats have a top pen! So there are no flaws.

They don't have a top pen, but they have a pretty decent one right now. With a really good closer in Doolittle(only NL closer with more June fWAR- Hader). Guerra and Suero in the top 20 in NL relief fWAR for June. Still think they need 1 more good piece to make it even better.

(07-01-2019 08:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  So here's a question: let's assume the Nats make the playoffs. In order to make noise, they have to add to the pen, right? I mean, by ERA- their pen is dead last in MLB.

Yeah you would have to think so. However, if they can just perform like they did in June- they'll be ok. In June a 4.54 ERA which is #15. But a 3.80 FIP, which was #5 in all of MLB.

Just wanna make I've got this straight: The Dodgers, with a relief pitching ERA of 3.26 and FIP of 3.91 in the last 30 days are hot garbage on the verge of collapse with basically no chance of advancing in the post season, but the Nats, with a relief pitching ERA of 4.54 and FIP of 3.80 over the same time period, are poised for greatness?

(06-23-2019 09:04 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 04:14 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  One thing's for sure, Giants are gonna be able to make hay with their surplus pitching available to a bunch of teams that need help. Hope Braves don't mortgage the whole farm.

I think the Giants could do okay at the deadline, but it won't be because of Bumgarner. He's still a solid innings eater, but at this point is nothing more than a #3 on a contending team. Important, but not someone for whom you're trading a top 100 prospect. Where I think they'll do well is with Will Smith, Dyson and maybe even Moronta. We all know how dominant (and consistent) Smith has been, but Dyson (a former closer) has also been very good, as he's stopped walking too any batters and is sporting a nice 2.75 ERA. Moronta is an interesting case. He sports a high 90's fastball and a nasty slider, as evidenced by his 11.76 Ks per 9. However, he also walks far too many, 5.08 per 9. The thing about him is that he can be dominant and has a few more years of control.

None of those guys is going to bring back a huge prospect, but if they trade all 4 they'll get a nice little infusion of talent.

It's from a blog, so you gotta take it with a grain of salt, but these guys are usually pretty well informed...

Dustin Nosler of Dodgers Digest Wrote:Word from someone with inside info is that the Dodgers might be the frontrunner for Smith’s services. And word from a different insider said the cost may not be too prohibitive...

He thinks it'll take one Top 5-10 organization guy, one established prospect, and one flier. Lower than you'd otherwise expect considering Smith's pending free agency. And of course Zaidi knows the Dodgers farm better than anyone outside the organization (and probably better than some INSIDE it). Dodgers and Giants don't often trade with each other but if it was going to happen this would be one of those times.

(07-01-2019 12:07 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  So here's a question: let's assume the Nats make the playoffs. In order to make noise, they have to add to the pen, right? I mean, by ERA- their pen is dead last in MLB.

Yeah you would have to think so. However, if they can just perform like they did in June- they'll be ok. In June a 4.54 ERA which is #15. But a 3.80 FIP, which was #5 in all of MLB.

Just wanna make I've got this straight: The Dodgers, with a relief pitching ERA of 3.26 and FIP of 3.91 in the last 30 days are hot garbage on the verge of collapse with basically no chance of advancing in the post season, but the Nats, with a relief pitching ERA of 4.54 and FIP of 3.80 over the same time period, are poised for greatness?

Biggest thing quite frankly is the late innings. For the Dodgers, Jansen is a question. And are we counting on Baez to get the 8th? For the Nats, Doolittle has the 9th locked down, and Guerra/Suero are 2 of the top 20 pitchers in June.

Or to put another way. Dodgers 2nd best relief pitcher in June was Joe Kelly. Are you really counting on him?

(07-01-2019 12:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 12:07 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 08:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  So here's a question: let's assume the Nats make the playoffs. In order to make noise, they have to add to the pen, right? I mean, by ERA- their pen is dead last in MLB.

Yeah you would have to think so. However, if they can just perform like they did in June- they'll be ok. In June a 4.54 ERA which is #15. But a 3.80 FIP, which was #5 in all of MLB.

Just wanna make I've got this straight: The Dodgers, with a relief pitching ERA of 3.26 and FIP of 3.91 in the last 30 days are hot garbage on the verge of collapse with basically no chance of advancing in the post season, but the Nats, with a relief pitching ERA of 4.54 and FIP of 3.80 over the same time period, are poised for greatness?

Biggest thing quite frankly is the late innings. For the Dodgers, Jansen is a question. And are we counting on Baez to get the 8th? For the Nats, Doolittle has the 9th locked down, and Guerra/Suero are 2 of the top 20 pitchers in June.

Or to put another way. Dodgers 2nd best relief pitcher in June was Joe Kelly. Are you really counting on him?

Good lord this is delusional.

so are you really counting on Jansen?