Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of immigrants without legal status from deportation.

(02-14-2019 10:13 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 09:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 09:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think the national emergency opens Pandora's box. I think Trump may be too obsessed with the wall, to the extent that he is giving away too much on other issues in order to get funding for it.

Aside, but funny--Many years ago, Nevada had legalized prostitution and California considered following suit. A bill to do so was introduced, and in the ensuing debate one of the legislators said, "I'm opposed. This bill would open Pandora's box."

therefore, the irony becomes the cali folk cross the border for legal prostitution...

that's akin to the 'sip folk going to LA or FL for lottery tix.....

either way, neither are comparable to continually funding a wall that steers 'this herd'....

for someone with a clear head, your beef with Trump and the wall is insane obsession....

with the base, the wall is tangible and serves a purpose in aid.....

nobody despises catch and release more than myself.....good luck with congress agreeing to revising that bs....

Some of these people saying..we dont need a wall we need to make laws of sending those that cross back.

What in the **** do they think the loony left will do with those laws? Hell we have laws on this bullshitt and the loony toones refuse to obey the federal laws.

Of course a wall will never stop all but it will direct the flow to where you can stop 50, 60, 80%. That maybe 80% you dont have to release. The loony left will never pass a law where you catch and send them right back.

Some of the argument from people that went to what most call "the smart schools" dont have a lick of common sense

spot on guns!

I'll take something I can put my hands on before any horseshite law that comes from that peanut gallery collective....

stupid fks complain about this, that, the other.....

here's a simple example....we don't have enough personnel....

so build the fk'n wall(s) where req'd, and maybe then, one can effectively manage the situation....

this shite blows my dadgum mind....

I hate politics with a passion....

(02-14-2019 10:21 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 08:47 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  In the Constitution, Congress is the only one to put money where they wanted. Trump wants to grab money from other programs which would be against the Constitution. Even the Supreme Court would rule against Trump.

Actually, the SC has already upheld this. You are correct that congress controls the purse strings, until they create a law that allows the president to control some of it. Thats exactly what they did. It is legal, constitutional, and has been upheld by the SC.

Well done. That's pretty much how I thought I remembered things which is why in post 54 I told him I didn't think he was correct about "all of that". The part about Congress controlling the purse strings was where he got partial credit, and even that came with a caveat.

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of illegal immigrants without legal status from deportation.

He was correct then and he will be correct if he calls a NE


I fixed that for you

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of immigrants without legal status from deportation.

so cap'n stabbin' rice paddy melt....define how he despised using that option when he WASN'T in the oval office vs. what he's attempted to negotiate to date....how is any of that contradictory?

oh yeah, you left out ILLEGAL.....how convenient....

what the hell done happened to william swamp-rat marshland....

if you are willing to absorb a pile of dipshites in tejas.........piss on it and go for it....

(02-14-2019 09:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think the national emergency opens Pandora's box. I think Trump may be too obsessed with the wall, to the extent that he is giving away too much on other issues in order to get funding for it.

Aside, but funny--Many years ago, Nevada had legalized prostitution and California considered following suit. A bill to do so was introduced, and in the ensuing debate one of the legislators said, "I'm opposed. This bill would open Pandora's box."

I think your wrong in the largest way possible....

(02-14-2019 06:01 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Climate change will be a national emergency in 2021... maybe even a green new deal... all w/o congressional approval.

Trump is not switching parties, so don’t look for that to happen.


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(02-14-2019 06:13 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Grab ur guns boyz, it’s time to round up some libs! #lockherup

Your nuts, anyone going to collect them would be taking a huge risk. No one is going to go out and collect unless they want to pay a huge price.


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(02-14-2019 10:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of illegal immigrants without legal status from deportation.

He was correct then and he will be correct if he calls a NE


I fixed that for you

It's amazing to me how many people on the Left are bending over backwards to support illegals - anybody that is illegal - at the expense of our own citizens safety, our entire country's economy, and the political preservation of our Constitution itself.

It isn't a stretch at all to envision a day when the Left has enough political power - House, Senate, and President - to pass a law allowing all the 20+ million illegals to vote in the Presidential elections (and state/local elections as well). Those people will then - along with the Radical Loony Left - be telling all of us what we can and can't do here in our own country. The first two things will probably involve them coming for everyone's guns and their money. They'll redistribute the money and lock up or destroy the guns. They don't want armed citizens anymore than the current leader in Venezuela does down there for obvious reasons.

Two things have to stop soon and begin going the opposite way ... (1) Illegals entering the U.S., and (2) The National Debt. Without that happening, the future doesn't look very good.

(02-14-2019 10:58 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 10:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of illegal immigrants without legal status from deportation.

He was correct then and he will be correct if he calls a NE


I fixed that for you

It's amazing to me how many people on the Left are bending over backwards to support illegals - anybody that is illegal - at the expense of our own citizens safety, our entire country's economy, and the political preservation of our Constitution itself.

It isn't a stretch at all to envision a day when the Left has enough political power - House, Senate, and President - to pass a law allowing all the 20+ million illegals to vote in the Presidential elections (and state/local elections as well). Those people will then - along with the Radical Loony Left - be telling all of us what we can and can't do here in our own country. The first two things will probably involve them coming for everyone's guns and their money. They'll redistribute the money and lock up or destroy the guns. They don't want armed citizens anymore than the current leader in Venezuela does down there for obvious reasons.

Two things have to stop soon and begin going the opposite way ... (1) Illegals entering the U.S., and (2) The National Debt. Without that happening, the future doesn't look very good.

you're XACLY! correct with the latter....

to the former, dems now wake up every day with this announcement....

It is a shame Trump has to clean up the mess other presidents made. This illegal thing should have been cleaned up in the 70s when it began to be a problem,

We need a balanced budget amendment to put the skills do on debt.


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(02-14-2019 11:25 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  It is a shame Trump has to clean up the mess other presidents made. This illegal thing should have been cleaned up in the 70s when it began to be a problem,

We need a balanced budget amendment to put the skills do on debt.


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if there's one thing that is certain, there wasn't anyone else that would stick their political neck on the line to do what he's done....

best prez in my lifetime and since Ike....it's not even a question mark....

he's easily exceeded expectations.....and I was lobbying for him out of the gate...

what I really find amusing, are all the 3rd party folk on this board that don't understand he's a 3rd party prez....

people are strange....

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of immigrants without legal status from deportation.

Insert this shite is why Trump won meme

(02-14-2019 11:31 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of immigrants without legal status from deportation.

Insert this shite is why Trump won meme

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(02-14-2019 05:56 PM)q5sys Wrote:  Im not a fan of a president being able to declare a National Emergency to get funding for something they want. Yes Congress should be able to get it done... but this ends up going nowhere good.
What happens when the next Dem gets in and decides they need 10 billion to provide health and hospitality services to illegal immigrants.
What happens when the the next Dem decides that they need 5 billion to overhaul the Dept of Education and add in mandatory 'gender education' in every grade at every school in the nation.

They already do. For instance, one of the worst offenders was the Obama Dreamer program. The Dreamer program was created with powers the president does not have. In other words, it is illegitimate as home made money. Its illegal....and Obama basically admitted it at the time. He didnt even pretend to utilize an actual law to do it. He just did it--and nobody bothered to challenge it for several years. It will die in the courts once this current challenge winds its way through the system because the original Dreamer legislation has no basis in law. Even the current judge that has issued the stay allowing the Dreamer law to remain in effect has said the Dreamer law will likely be found to be illegitimate. His current injunctive relief was simply designed to give Congress a chance to use its legislative powers to give the program a constitutional basis for legitimacy. Thus far, Congress has failed to act and its likely the law will be struck down before the Congress can do anything to save it.

The Trump wall emergency is much different. He is using an actual law that provide him with the power to re-purpose funds. Furthermore---it would be hard to argue that the unintended costs, drug deaths, and terrorist dangers of the porous southern border doesnt represent a bigger "emergency" than many of the 31 "presidential national emergency orders" that are currently still in effect from other prior office holders. In this case--the law for exercise of the power exists. Prior precedent indicates that it is a legal power. The deaths and issues along the southern border---where we have been forced to use military troops numerous times over the last decade---would seem to support the idea that the issue can be reasonably construed as an emergency (especially in light of what previous presidential emergency orders have viewed as "emergencies").

There will be a court battle---but the reality is that Trump will get his way because the law supports his position.

(02-14-2019 10:51 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 06:13 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Grab ur guns boyz, it’s time to round up some libs! #lockherup

Your nuts, anyone going to collect them would be taking a huge risk. No one is going to go out and collect unless they want to pay a huge price.


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They would take them clandestinely one by one because mass confiscation the people would be up in arms...literally. With what the FBI wanted to do to Trumps presidency illegally they scare me. They've become a real KGB and I'm not sure anyone including AG Barr would be different.

(02-14-2019 10:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of illegal immigrants without legal status from deportation.

He was correct then and he will be correct if he calls a NE


I fixed that for you

Not true according to the 14th Amendment.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

This writer makes a very good case why you shouldn't use the term illegal immigrants. He argues undocumented immigrants is the better wording.

https://www.thoughtco.com/illegal-immigr...nts-721479

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of immigrants without legal status from deportation.

Huge world of difference between a Declaration of Emergency and an Executive Order legally.

But continue to make apples to oranges comparisons so we can continue to laugh at you.

(02-15-2019 12:08 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 10:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 10:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

5,822
8:36 AM - Nov 20, 2014

Obama at the time had just announced an executive action to protect millions of illegal immigrants without legal status from deportation.

He was correct then and he will be correct if he calls a NE


I fixed that for you

Not true according to the 14th Amendment.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

This writer makes a very good case why you shouldn't use the term illegal immigrants. He argues undocumented immigrants is the better wording.

https://www.thoughtco.com/illegal-immigr...nts-721479

Actually I grants are ones who come here legally. The correct term for these invaders is illegal aliens.


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(02-15-2019 12:08 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Not true according to the 14th Amendment.
No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
This writer makes a very good case why you shouldn't use the term illegal immigrants. He argues undocumented immigrants is the better wording.
https://www.thoughtco.com/illegal-immigr...nts-721479

Umm, the author tries to make a case. I would not call it a good one. They have immigrated illegally. Therefore they are illegal immigrants, or illegal aliens (an alien is a citizen of another nation). I reject his arguments.