(12-05-2018 11:08 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Trump will never allow the removal of his terrorist buddy.

OK... What do we do IF:

The U.S. insists that the crown prince be removed from power. King of Saudi Arabia refuses. Now what?

I decided to see if there was something I was missing about Khashoggi and his status as a cult hero with the leftists on this board so utilizing the search function I entered his name. Prior to October 10th of this year the only other time Khashoggi appeared in a post in the spin room was in July of 2015 immediately after the Iran deal. I made the post, and not a single leftist posted in the thread.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-743225-post-12...id12215780

One would think that a world hero significant enough to the point that posters here wanted the United States to take steps up to the point of declaring war would have generated far more traffic than a single post on this message board. Not a thread.....a single post. Nobody else even mentioned his name on here before Oct 10th.

Seems peculiar....

(12-05-2018 11:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 11:08 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Trump will never allow the removal of his terrorist buddy.

So you are in favor of pushing a fifth of the world's oil supply into the sphere of influence of Russia over a guy you didn't know existed until your leftist media overlords told you to be offended?

Exactly.

Or perhaps worse, China. China probably has greater need to control Saudi oil than does Russia.

What part of tell the truth don’t we understand. Don’t lie about it.

(12-06-2018 06:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  What part of tell the truth don’t we understand. Don’t lie about it.

What part of not telling the truth happened?

(12-05-2018 06:30 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 10:29 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here's what I don't understand. Why this time?

The Saudis and the Iranians have killed Christians for being Christians, women for being raped, some of them American citizens, not just residents. We did nothing. So why this one?

There is even a lot of information suggesting that Khashoggi is a bad guy--Muslim Brotherhood and so forth.

So why is this the one where we go ballistic?

I agree, Saudi Arabia is a stable nation, taking the Royal family out has head of state would most certainly cause some level of instability. Let the people of Saudi Arabia decide if it's time for regime change, the US should not involve itself in this decision.

It really is that simple. Extremist want the Saudi Royal family gone about as bad as they want to blow up Americans, maybe more. It also amuses me how the ones suggesting regime change for Saudi openly opposed it for say Iraq, etc. What's the common denominator for the out of character regime change push? Orange man bad.

No more regime change...we don't have the stomach to see these things through in most cases.

(12-05-2018 10:29 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here's what I don't understand. Why this time?

The Saudis and the Iranians have killed Christians for being Christians, women for being raped, some of them American citizens, not just residents. We did nothing. So why this one?

There is even a lot of information suggesting that Khashoggi is a bad guy--Muslim Brotherhood and so forth.

So why is this the one where we go ballistic?

#itsALLTrumpsfault

(12-05-2018 01:16 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 01:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 10:29 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here's what I don't understand. Why this time?

The Saudis and the Iranians have killed Christians for being Christians, women for being raped, some of them American citizens, not just residents. We did nothing. So why this one?

There is even a lot of information suggesting that Khashoggi is a bad guy--Muslim Brotherhood and so forth.

So why is this the one where we go ballistic?

Legal US resident, journalist with US citizen children who was critical of this and SA administrations winds up tortured and murdered in an embassy and President openly tries to lie for and cover for SA administration. And gets caught.

Sounds like perfect media storm material.

OK, I'll play. So we get regime change in Saudi Arabia. Then what? I have a feeling what replaces what is there now could be much worse.

Because we haven't created enough power vacuums over there...

(12-05-2018 01:18 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 01:16 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 01:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 10:29 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here's what I don't understand. Why this time?

The Saudis and the Iranians have killed Christians for being Christians, women for being raped, some of them American citizens, not just residents. We did nothing. So why this one?

There is even a lot of information suggesting that Khashoggi is a bad guy--Muslim Brotherhood and so forth.

So why is this the one where we go ballistic?

Legal US resident, journalist with US citizen children who was critical of this and SA administrations winds up tortured and murdered in an embassy and President openly tries to lie for and cover for SA administration. And gets caught.

Sounds like perfect media storm material.

OK, I'll play. So we get regime change in Saudi Arabia. Then what? I have a feeling what replaces what is there now could be much worse.

Shrug. Out of my wheelhouse to advocate for a regime change. I'll leave that to people with expertise/degrees in that field. I will say though that the current slap on the wrist this administration is giving (AT BEST) is not enough.

It doesn't take a PhD in international politics to know this administration royally blundered how they dealt with this.

Another idiot who seems to think that we should insert ourselves into the internal politics/machinations of a sovereign nation. How exactly would you go about accomplishing that?

(12-05-2018 08:10 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Don’t lie...... how hard is that??? Evidently too hard.

Oh wait, you're serious...

(12-05-2018 01:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 10:29 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here's what I don't understand. Why this time?
The Saudis and the Iranians have killed Christians for being Christians, women for being raped, some of them American citizens, not just residents. We did nothing. So why this one?
There is even a lot of information suggesting that Khashoggi is a bad guy--Muslim Brotherhood and so forth.
So why is this the one where we go ballistic?

Legal US resident, journalist with US citizen children who was critical of this and SA administrations winds up tortured and murdered in an embassy and President openly tries to lie for and cover for SA administration. And gets caught.
Sounds like perfect media storm material.

So why do we go ballistic on this one when we haven’t in the past, including multiple situations in which US citizens were involved?

What is so special about this one, except Orange man bad?

Lol. Lindsay is upset with Trump! Prepare the fainting couch...Not really, he will fold up like a worn veranda in a hurricane and do everything Trump wants.

(12-05-2018 12:37 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 10:29 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here's what I don't understand. Why this time?

The Saudis and the Iranians have killed Christians for being Christians, women for being raped, some of them American citizens, not just residents. We did nothing. So why this one?

There is even a lot of information suggesting that Khashoggi is a bad guy--Muslim Brotherhood and so forth.

So why is this the one where we go ballistic?

Because the media tried to suggest that Kushner and the Prince were buddies. Mach even started a thread and suggested Kushner was in on it and tipped off the Saudis or something nutty like that.

ahh, hello? vanity fair