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(10-31-2018 05:48 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Durkin Out says Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...a7d6a01ffb

Well, that was fast!
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(10-31-2018 05:48 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Durkin Out says Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...a7d6a01ffb

Promote Canada and reap the benefits. He's going to be one hell of a HC IMO.
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Quite a soap opera.

https://theathletic.com/626500/2018/10/3...-backlash/
Quote:A booster who spoke to The Athletic on the condition of anonymity said he believes “Loh went rogue” and that Loh acted without consulting the regents.

“Hogan gave him some political cover when he spoke out today,” the booster said. “I think Loh seized on it to really try to buttress his own personal standing. … I think he unilaterally took the action.”
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I'm not sure what Maryland trying to build a bridge back to the ACC looks like ... but it dang sure doesn't start with having Damon Evans as the AD. That guy brings criminal records wherever he goes. Befitting a UGAg athletic official.
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(10-31-2018 09:37 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I'm not sure what Maryland trying to build a bridge back to the ACC looks like ... but it dang sure doesn't start with having Damon Evans as the AD. That guy brings criminal records wherever he goes. Befitting a UGAg athletic official.

Just stop. Maryland isn't trying to build a bridge to the Godforsaken ACC. They have moved one to a far better situation for them long term. They are in a conference that takes the money-making sport serious now.
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Maybe they could smooth things over with Duke (their former archrival in basketball), UNC (another former big basketball rival), and NC State (a former football rival). Maybe that's what they're looking at. Not rejoining the ACC at all really.
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So 12 hours later... Oh crap Maryland is a complete dumpster fire. No one is happy. Durkin is now gone, Loh will be gone but Evans still has a job (for now). Maryland has been blasted more than Tennessee and their coaching search (rightfully so IMO). Twitter is completely insane. Not that I expected it to be full of measured responses and rational thought but HOLY S**T. I don't know if the anger has been their simmering or what but I've seen a bunch of "the move the B1G was a bad idea/we should go back to the ACC". I don't think it will happen but there are way more takes like that than I expected. So, everybody just kill Maryland. I'm not to the point of giving up yet but I'm getting there.
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Maryland should call Matt Rhule.
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(11-01-2018 06:57 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  So 12 hours later... Oh crap Maryland is a complete dumpster fire. No one is happy. Durkin is now gone, Loh will be gone but Evans still has a job (for now). Maryland has been blasted more than Tennessee and their coaching search (rightfully so IMO). Twitter is completely insane. Not that I expected it to be full of measured responses and rational thought but HOLY S**T. I don't know if the anger has been their simmering or what but I've seen a bunch of "the move the B1G was a bad idea/we should go back to the ACC". I don't think it will happen but there are way more takes like that than I expected. So, everybody just kill Maryland. I'm not to the point of giving up yet but I'm getting there.


Poll finds 40 percent of Maryland fans wish Terps were still in ACC


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/big-te...-still-acc

Yes, one of the questions asked by pollsters was, "Would you rather Maryland was in the ACC or the Big Ten?"

Forty percent of respondents preferred the ACC, 35 percent preferred the Big Ten and 25 percent were "not sure."
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(11-01-2018 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 06:57 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  So 12 hours later... Oh crap Maryland is a complete dumpster fire. No one is happy. Durkin is now gone, Loh will be gone but Evans still has a job (for now). Maryland has been blasted more than Tennessee and their coaching search (rightfully so IMO). Twitter is completely insane. Not that I expected it to be full of measured responses and rational thought but HOLY S**T. I don't know if the anger has been their simmering or what but I've seen a bunch of "the move the B1G was a bad idea/we should go back to the ACC". I don't think it will happen but there are way more takes like that than I expected. So, everybody just kill Maryland. I'm not to the point of giving up yet but I'm getting there.


Poll finds 40 percent of Maryland fans wish Terps were still in ACC


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/big-te...-still-acc

Yes, one of the questions asked by pollsters was, "Would you rather Maryland was in the ACC or the Big Ten?"

Forty percent of respondents preferred the ACC, 35 percent preferred the Big Ten and 25 percent were "not sure."
Yeah, I think that was back in 2016. I'd like to see one as of today. Results would be...interesting. The Washington Post is landing uppercut after uppercut on Maryland right now. Story earlier about the move to the B1G, Maryland's culture and the death of Jordan McNair. Now a new story about an altercation between 2 players. "The attorney for the McNair family, Billy Murphy, alleged that the altercation involved one player who supported Durkin and another rumored to be “a whistleblower.” Murphy said the “pro-Durkin” player was the instigator."

COMPLETE DUMPSTER FIRE
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(11-01-2018 07:58 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 06:57 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  So 12 hours later... Oh crap Maryland is a complete dumpster fire. No one is happy. Durkin is now gone, Loh will be gone but Evans still has a job (for now). Maryland has been blasted more than Tennessee and their coaching search (rightfully so IMO). Twitter is completely insane. Not that I expected it to be full of measured responses and rational thought but HOLY S**T. I don't know if the anger has been their simmering or what but I've seen a bunch of "the move the B1G was a bad idea/we should go back to the ACC". I don't think it will happen but there are way more takes like that than I expected. So, everybody just kill Maryland. I'm not to the point of giving up yet but I'm getting there.


Poll finds 40 percent of Maryland fans wish Terps were still in ACC


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/big-te...-still-acc

Yes, one of the questions asked by pollsters was, "Would you rather Maryland was in the ACC or the Big Ten?"

Forty percent of respondents preferred the ACC, 35 percent preferred the Big Ten and 25 percent were "not sure."
Yeah, I think that was back in 2016. I'd like to see one as of today. Results would be...interesting. The Washington Post is landing uppercut after uppercut on Maryland right now. Story earlier about the move to the B1G, Maryland's culture and the death of Jordan McNair. Now a new story about an altercation between 2 players. "The attorney for the McNair family, Billy Murphy, alleged that the altercation involved one player who supported Durkin and another rumored to be “a whistleblower.” Murphy said the “pro-Durkin” player was the instigator."

COMPLETE DUMPSTER FIRE

Lamenting the loss of the ACC from the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/co...a6005cbb25

You can’t draw a line directly from Jordan McNair’s death to Maryland’s decision to leave the ACC for the Big Ten. But they’re not wholly unrelated either. Both are relevant in discussing Maryland’s identity, athletically and otherwise. They matter in considering the conditions at the May workout during which McNair collapsed. And they matter in considering how to move beyond it all.

Work with me here. Considering Maryland is about to open its 100th season of men’s basketball, it’s not terribly long ago that the Terrapins were clearly defined, at least in sports. That identity: Gary Williams walking onto the court in a spotlight, thrusting his fist to the crowd, a hitch in his step and a scowl on his face. God love him, he was Maryland at its underdog and renegade best. That identity: Ralph Friedgen, gathered with his team in a corner of Byrd Stadium, belting out the Maryland “Victory Song” in concert with the student section — a student section that, back then, actually showed up and actually cared.

Loh, along with former athletic director Kevin Anderson, pushed Maryland away from that solid, steady base by yanking the school from the ACC to the Big Ten. This was a money grab, nothing short of it, a move that shoved to the side generations of tradition and history because Jim Delany, the Big Ten commissioner/con-artist, promised more cash. Never mind that the idea of driving through Beltway traffic to see Purdue on a Tuesday night in January was, nebulously, not as attractive as enduring the same commute to see, say, N.C. State. The money mattered, and Loh went for it.


That move put Durkin competing not against Wake Forest and Duke and Virginia and Pittsburgh but instead against Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State. That matters. The environment and the identity shifted. And because of the negligence of Damon Evans — then an administrator overseeing football while apparently shutting his eyes, now incomprehensibly the athletic director — Durkin was allowed to build his big-time program in his big-time division of the Terrapins’ big-time conference however he saw fit. If that meant fostering an environment that routinely humiliated and embarrassed players, well, then, fine. No one was there to tell him to stop.



Bold text is to re-enforce GTS's comments.
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(11-01-2018 07:58 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 06:57 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  So 12 hours later... Oh crap Maryland is a complete dumpster fire. No one is happy. Durkin is now gone, Loh will be gone but Evans still has a job (for now). Maryland has been blasted more than Tennessee and their coaching search (rightfully so IMO). Twitter is completely insane. Not that I expected it to be full of measured responses and rational thought but HOLY S**T. I don't know if the anger has been their simmering or what but I've seen a bunch of "the move the B1G was a bad idea/we should go back to the ACC". I don't think it will happen but there are way more takes like that than I expected. So, everybody just kill Maryland. I'm not to the point of giving up yet but I'm getting there.


Poll finds 40 percent of Maryland fans wish Terps were still in ACC


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/big-te...-still-acc

Yes, one of the questions asked by pollsters was, "Would you rather Maryland was in the ACC or the Big Ten?"

Forty percent of respondents preferred the ACC, 35 percent preferred the Big Ten and 25 percent were "not sure."
Yeah, I think that was back in 2016. I'd like to see one as of today. Results would be...interesting. The Washington Post is landing uppercut after uppercut on Maryland right now. Story earlier about the move to the B1G, Maryland's culture and the death of Jordan McNair. Now a new story about an altercation between 2 players. "The attorney for the McNair family, Billy Murphy, alleged that the altercation involved one player who supported Durkin and another rumored to be “a whistleblower.” Murphy said the “pro-Durkin” player was the instigator."

COMPLETE DUMPSTER FIRE

Poll was four years after the announcement and only 40% lament the move. We are now six years out and I would suspect many of those miss the ACC because Maryland had a smoother existence.
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(11-01-2018 08:55 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:58 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 06:57 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  So 12 hours later... Oh crap Maryland is a complete dumpster fire. No one is happy. Durkin is now gone, Loh will be gone but Evans still has a job (for now). Maryland has been blasted more than Tennessee and their coaching search (rightfully so IMO). Twitter is completely insane. Not that I expected it to be full of measured responses and rational thought but HOLY S**T. I don't know if the anger has been their simmering or what but I've seen a bunch of "the move the B1G was a bad idea/we should go back to the ACC". I don't think it will happen but there are way more takes like that than I expected. So, everybody just kill Maryland. I'm not to the point of giving up yet but I'm getting there.


Poll finds 40 percent of Maryland fans wish Terps were still in ACC


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/big-te...-still-acc

Yes, one of the questions asked by pollsters was, "Would you rather Maryland was in the ACC or the Big Ten?"

Forty percent of respondents preferred the ACC, 35 percent preferred the Big Ten and 25 percent were "not sure."
Yeah, I think that was back in 2016. I'd like to see one as of today. Results would be...interesting. The Washington Post is landing uppercut after uppercut on Maryland right now. Story earlier about the move to the B1G, Maryland's culture and the death of Jordan McNair. Now a new story about an altercation between 2 players. "The attorney for the McNair family, Billy Murphy, alleged that the altercation involved one player who supported Durkin and another rumored to be “a whistleblower.” Murphy said the “pro-Durkin” player was the instigator."

COMPLETE DUMPSTER FIRE

Poll was four years after the announcement and only 40% lament the move. We are now six years out and I would suspect many of those miss the ACC because Maryland had a smoother existence.

In light of recent events, I think it's reasonable to assume someone will update that poll soon. The results will be interesting. But they will have no more effect than a poll of UConn fans asking if they would prefer the ACC to the AAC. Neither school is going anywhere.
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(11-01-2018 08:46 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:58 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 06:57 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  So 12 hours later... Oh crap Maryland is a complete dumpster fire. No one is happy. Durkin is now gone, Loh will be gone but Evans still has a job (for now). Maryland has been blasted more than Tennessee and their coaching search (rightfully so IMO). Twitter is completely insane. Not that I expected it to be full of measured responses and rational thought but HOLY S**T. I don't know if the anger has been their simmering or what but I've seen a bunch of "the move the B1G was a bad idea/we should go back to the ACC". I don't think it will happen but there are way more takes like that than I expected. So, everybody just kill Maryland. I'm not to the point of giving up yet but I'm getting there.


Poll finds 40 percent of Maryland fans wish Terps were still in ACC


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/big-te...-still-acc

Yes, one of the questions asked by pollsters was, "Would you rather Maryland was in the ACC or the Big Ten?"

Forty percent of respondents preferred the ACC, 35 percent preferred the Big Ten and 25 percent were "not sure."
Yeah, I think that was back in 2016. I'd like to see one as of today. Results would be...interesting. The Washington Post is landing uppercut after uppercut on Maryland right now. Story earlier about the move to the B1G, Maryland's culture and the death of Jordan McNair. Now a new story about an altercation between 2 players. "The attorney for the McNair family, Billy Murphy, alleged that the altercation involved one player who supported Durkin and another rumored to be “a whistleblower.” Murphy said the “pro-Durkin” player was the instigator."

COMPLETE DUMPSTER FIRE

Lamenting the loss of the ACC from the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/co...a6005cbb25

You can’t draw a line directly from Jordan McNair’s death to Maryland’s decision to leave the ACC for the Big Ten. But they’re not wholly unrelated either. Both are relevant in discussing Maryland’s identity, athletically and otherwise. They matter in considering the conditions at the May workout during which McNair collapsed. And they matter in considering how to move beyond it all.

Work with me here. Considering Maryland is about to open its 100th season of men’s basketball, it’s not terribly long ago that the Terrapins were clearly defined, at least in sports. That identity: Gary Williams walking onto the court in a spotlight, thrusting his fist to the crowd, a hitch in his step and a scowl on his face. God love him, he was Maryland at its underdog and renegade best. That identity: Ralph Friedgen, gathered with his team in a corner of Byrd Stadium, belting out the Maryland “Victory Song” in concert with the student section — a student section that, back then, actually showed up and actually cared.

Loh, along with former athletic director Kevin Anderson, pushed Maryland away from that solid, steady base by yanking the school from the ACC to the Big Ten. This was a money grab, nothing short of it, a move that shoved to the side generations of tradition and history because Jim Delany, the Big Ten commissioner/con-artist, promised more cash. Never mind that the idea of driving through Beltway traffic to see Purdue on a Tuesday night in January was, nebulously, not as attractive as enduring the same commute to see, say, N.C. State. The money mattered, and Loh went for it.


That move put Durkin competing not against Wake Forest and Duke and Virginia and Pittsburgh but instead against Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State. That matters. The environment and the identity shifted. And because of the negligence of Damon Evans — then an administrator overseeing football while apparently shutting his eyes, now incomprehensibly the athletic director — Durkin was allowed to build his big-time program in his big-time division of the Terrapins’ big-time conference however he saw fit. If that meant fostering an environment that routinely humiliated and embarrassed players, well, then, fine. No one was there to tell him to stop.



Bold text is to re-enforce GTS's comments.

MD's situation is older than Wallace Loh. This is part of a struggle that has been ongoing since Jim Tatum was at MD and public debate about what was bigger, football or the university, wracked MD. As long as James was the ACC Commission (he of MD), everything was fine. In fact his replacement at MD, was the father of UNC's AD, Bill Cobey. One nice happy family. But the burning issue at MD from 1970 onward was the loss of graduate programs that were sent to Baltimore and what that meant for the future alumni base. By the time Len Bias died, Brit Kirwan was in place to take over MD, he did and the in the wake of Bias' death, Lefty was fired, the AD was fired, and MD refused to support Bobby Ross.


The new academic administrators produced Bob Wade. He of the massive NCAA probation.

Time goes by, Kirwan becomes Chancellor at Ohio State and professes his love of Ohio State and all things Big 10. When Kirwan came back to the State of MD as system President, one of his goals was to move MD into the Big 10 - a full decade before the issue blew up. When Loh was hired at UMCP, Kirwan was System President.

Loh is an Iowa and Michigan man. In fact he undegraded at Grinell the same place as Mary Sue Coleman, former Chancellor at Michigan. Kirwan had wanted to move MD for years, Loh was the man to do it and money was the covering reason.

Money in the athletic department had been an issues in the wake of Bias' death. Byrd Stadium was neglected, then UMCP had to compete with the Washington Nationals and Baltimore Ravens for entertainment dollars. All the time, the Title IX compliance at MD had to be exemplary, not because a woman was AD, but because MD was a stones throw from DC. Now, MD the athletic program had some legitimate issues with UNC and Duke. Not the least of which was how basketball players stayed eligible at UNC and how Duke can avoid nearly all scrutiny. Getting along with NC State had always been important, but that ended in 2010 when Sweaty Gary interfered in out basketball coach search.

The fiscal blunder of the Big 10 will only get worse as MD attempts to compete against the wealth created by 100K seat football stadiums in Columbus, State College, Ann Arbor. MD left a situation where it's long term and current football history was second only to FSU in the ACC and they were then on a rough par with Clemson. Now they are 5th in their own DIVISON. That will always lead to sub optimal coaching hires even with the best AD in place. With a sub optimal AD in place they can sink to the 9th level of Hell.


MD has to fix it's political and administrative problems before they can fix any athletic problems and keep athletic problems fixed.


Moreover, even if MD's boosters and ptb wanted to come back to the ACC, to do that means the System President and UMCP Chancellor have to be people that the other ACC Presidents and Chancellors trust. Put another way, they have to have a blessing from the Baptists in Winston-Salem. In addition to that VT and UVa have to be specifically okay with it.
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(11-01-2018 08:55 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:58 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 06:57 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  So 12 hours later... Oh crap Maryland is a complete dumpster fire. No one is happy. Durkin is now gone, Loh will be gone but Evans still has a job (for now). Maryland has been blasted more than Tennessee and their coaching search (rightfully so IMO). Twitter is completely insane. Not that I expected it to be full of measured responses and rational thought but HOLY S**T. I don't know if the anger has been their simmering or what but I've seen a bunch of "the move the B1G was a bad idea/we should go back to the ACC". I don't think it will happen but there are way more takes like that than I expected. So, everybody just kill Maryland. I'm not to the point of giving up yet but I'm getting there.


Poll finds 40 percent of Maryland fans wish Terps were still in ACC


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/big-te...-still-acc

Yes, one of the questions asked by pollsters was, "Would you rather Maryland was in the ACC or the Big Ten?"

Forty percent of respondents preferred the ACC, 35 percent preferred the Big Ten and 25 percent were "not sure."
Yeah, I think that was back in 2016. I'd like to see one as of today. Results would be...interesting. The Washington Post is landing uppercut after uppercut on Maryland right now. Story earlier about the move to the B1G, Maryland's culture and the death of Jordan McNair. Now a new story about an altercation between 2 players. "The attorney for the McNair family, Billy Murphy, alleged that the altercation involved one player who supported Durkin and another rumored to be “a whistleblower.” Murphy said the “pro-Durkin” player was the instigator."

COMPLETE DUMPSTER FIRE

Poll was four years after the announcement and only 40% lament the move. We are now six years out and I would suspect many of those miss the ACC because Maryland had a smoother existence.

Exactly.

People tend to live in the moment. When there's a tragedy, they tend to exaggerate about "the good old days" and are overly pessimistic about the future.

Grant it, this was handled about as BAD as it could possibly have been handled, but I'd be willing to bet in a couple of years, people will be back to normal with their thoughts on the subject.

Folks just need to take a deep breath.
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The regents in that university are outright insane.

Regents had also recommended keeping trainers who let McNair die.
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Baltimore Sun says pro-Durkin players beat up a snitch at practice.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terp...story.html

Quote:Matthew Barber, a 21-year-old backup punter, who has spoken out against the culture of the program, says he was assaulted at the end of practice Tuesday by a fellow player who supported Durkin.

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Barber, of Mechanicsburg, Pa., said word had gotten around on the team that he is a “whistle-blower” who talked to investigators about problems on the team. When Durkin returned to practice Tuesday to watch the team practice, his supporters on the team felt emboldened and began taunting Barber, he said. Some mocked and insulted him, while others threw footballs at him, Barber said.

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Toward the end of the practice, another player attacked Barber, attempting to punch him in the face, Barber said. While the two teammates were fighting, others tried to intervene and grabbed Barber’s arms behind his back, he said. That allowed the other player to punch Barber repeatedly in the face, leaving him with a black eye, needing multiple stitches on his forehead and a dislocated shoulder, Barber said.
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RE: Durkin fired, Evans reinstated, Loh will retire (2nd update)
(11-01-2018 04:14 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Baltimore Sun says pro-Durkin players beat up a snitch at practice.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terp...story.html

Quote:Matthew Barber, a 21-year-old backup punter, who has spoken out against the culture of the program, says he was assaulted at the end of practice Tuesday by a fellow player who supported Durkin.

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Barber, of Mechanicsburg, Pa., said word had gotten around on the team that he is a “whistle-blower” who talked to investigators about problems on the team. When Durkin returned to practice Tuesday to watch the team practice, his supporters on the team felt emboldened and began taunting Barber, he said. Some mocked and insulted him, while others threw footballs at him, Barber said.

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Toward the end of the practice, another player attacked Barber, attempting to punch him in the face, Barber said. While the two teammates were fighting, others tried to intervene and grabbed Barber’s arms behind his back, he said. That allowed the other player to punch Barber repeatedly in the face, leaving him with a black eye, needing multiple stitches on his forehead and a dislocated shoulder, Barber said.

Canada was a part of Durkin's culture. There is no way he should be given the job on a permanent basis.
Maryland should clean house of everybody associated with the program.
11-01-2018 04:21 PM
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RE: Durkin fired, Evans reinstated, Loh will retire (2nd update)
(11-01-2018 04:14 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Baltimore Sun says pro-Durkin players beat up a snitch at practice.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terp...story.html

Quote:Matthew Barber, a 21-year-old backup punter, who has spoken out against the culture of the program, says he was assaulted at the end of practice Tuesday by a fellow player who supported Durkin.

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Barber, of Mechanicsburg, Pa., said word had gotten around on the team that he is a “whistle-blower” who talked to investigators about problems on the team. When Durkin returned to practice Tuesday to watch the team practice, his supporters on the team felt emboldened and began taunting Barber, he said. Some mocked and insulted him, while others threw footballs at him, Barber said.

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Toward the end of the practice, another player attacked Barber, attempting to punch him in the face, Barber said. While the two teammates were fighting, others tried to intervene and grabbed Barber’s arms behind his back, he said. That allowed the other player to punch Barber repeatedly in the face, leaving him with a black eye, needing multiple stitches on his forehead and a dislocated shoulder, Barber said.

If that turns out to be true, those players must be dismissed from the university immediately and without recourse. Just being kicked off the football team would not be ample punishment for such a cowardly act.

And where were the Maryland coaches during this assault? The Terps just need to clean house ASAP. I don't care how good a coach Matt Canada might be, or how much short term damage the program will suffer. They all have to go.
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