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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-04-2019 04:55 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:51 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 03:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 01:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Ummm, sorry, no. All those ones I listed have those things. The Reynolds Center has some bench seating for the students section and the immediate surrounding area. As mentioned Memphis is NBA level, Houston and Cincinnati brand new and redone with all the fixings. Yuengling and Liacouras Center both have some nice amenities and plenty of chair back and a nice look to them. Koch was just redone like three or four years ago and is a beautiful facility. SMU was redone at about the same time as Koch, comes with all of that and often a former President. Throw in the Tulsa, UCF, and UConn's gyms and you might get to ten with a hard reach. The Tulane gym is a box, but it's a really nice box, so maybe not. I foresee Minges getting redone soon if Dooley brings a competitive program and builds momentum in a basketball crazed state.

You do average right at 6,400. Which is good enough for fourth in the AAC. With three programs near 6,000 though it's unlikely you will remain that high. SMU always does well and the other two are top four teams in Temple and Houston. By percentage of capacity you would get in at 7th and I doubt you will overtake those in front of you, which include the three mentioned at near 6,000 along with Cincy, WSU, UConn and Memphis.

The Ted Constant Center is 100% Chairback seating with 700 in a club level and 18 luxury suites completely encircling the arena (and we sell 'em), though with the seating arrangement there's not a bad seat in the place. If you're gong by size then no. If you're going by design, amenities and atmosphere there's only a few that can compete.

That 6,400 average represents a fanbase frustrated with not having reached the NCAA tournament in 7 years. So your doubt that we'll overtake those in front of us is just you uninformed opinion. We have and should be averaging well over 7K. Those are devoted season ticket buying, donation making fans. Not a few thousand students that noticed your team was ranked and will leave again just as easy.


I don't mind you saying ODU is not good enough for the AAC but don't be stupid about it. The fact that we have a larger and more devoted fanbase in basketball than most in your conference is not an opinion.


I know it's a crazy thing where you have to actually read the responses, but you should try it.

Which of these 8 arenas is ODU better than?

NBA arenas:
Memphis (FedEx Forum)

Recently Remodeled:
Cincy (5/3 Arena)
Houston (Feritia Center)
Smu (Moody Coliseum)
Wichita (Kock Arena)

Oldies but goodies built/updated in roughly the same time as yours (5 years):
Temple (Liacoursa Center)
USF (Yuengling Center)
Tulsa (Reynolds Center)

Again that's just to be in the contention for top 2/3rds.

Also nothing like talking trash about current average attendance. Come back and March, you'll be ninth or tenth at that in this conference too.

Easily the ones bolded. And we could debate the rest except probably the Fed Ex center which Memphis doesn't own. Like I said, depends how you want to prioritize. If you want a big arena we're not it. If you don't want to have a hard seat to sit on, nice concourse, and great viewing angles then you'll appreciate our arena. Did you even bother looking up our arena?


And I'll be back in March
I've been to the Ted (last season in fact) and no way is it better than Moody

What exactly about it is better. I haven't been there but not too impressed from what I've seen.
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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-04-2019 04:59 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:55 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:51 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 03:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  The Ted Constant Center is 100% Chairback seating with 700 in a club level and 18 luxury suites completely encircling the arena (and we sell 'em), though with the seating arrangement there's not a bad seat in the place. If you're gong by size then no. If you're going by design, amenities and atmosphere there's only a few that can compete.

That 6,400 average represents a fanbase frustrated with not having reached the NCAA tournament in 7 years. So your doubt that we'll overtake those in front of us is just you uninformed opinion. We have and should be averaging well over 7K. Those are devoted season ticket buying, donation making fans. Not a few thousand students that noticed your team was ranked and will leave again just as easy.


I don't mind you saying ODU is not good enough for the AAC but don't be stupid about it. The fact that we have a larger and more devoted fanbase in basketball than most in your conference is not an opinion.


I know it's a crazy thing where you have to actually read the responses, but you should try it.

Which of these 8 arenas is ODU better than?

NBA arenas:
Memphis (FedEx Forum)

Recently Remodeled:
Cincy (5/3 Arena)
Houston (Feritia Center)
Smu (Moody Coliseum)
Wichita (Kock Arena)

Oldies but goodies built/updated in roughly the same time as yours (5 years):
Temple (Liacoursa Center)
USF (Yuengling Center)
Tulsa (Reynolds Center)

Again that's just to be in the contention for top 2/3rds.

Also nothing like talking trash about current average attendance. Come back and March, you'll be ninth or tenth at that in this conference too.

Easily the ones bolded. And we could debate the rest except probably the Fed Ex center which Memphis doesn't own. Like I said, depends how you want to prioritize. If you want a big arena we're not it. If you don't want to have a hard seat to sit on, nice concourse, and great viewing angles then you'll appreciate our arena. Did you even bother looking up our arena?


And I'll be back in March
I've been to the Ted (last season in fact) and no way is it better than Moody

What exactly about it is better. I haven't been there but not too impressed from what I've seen.

Sightlines, concessions, parking, atmosphere
02-04-2019 05:00 PM
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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-04-2019 05:00 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:59 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:55 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:51 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  I know it's a crazy thing where you have to actually read the responses, but you should try it.

Which of these 8 arenas is ODU better than?

NBA arenas:
Memphis (FedEx Forum)

Recently Remodeled:
Cincy (5/3 Arena)
Houston (Feritia Center)
Smu (Moody Coliseum)
Wichita (Kock Arena)

Oldies but goodies built/updated in roughly the same time as yours (5 years):
Temple (Liacoursa Center)
USF (Yuengling Center)
Tulsa (Reynolds Center)

Again that's just to be in the contention for top 2/3rds.

Also nothing like talking trash about current average attendance. Come back and March, you'll be ninth or tenth at that in this conference too.

Easily the ones bolded. And we could debate the rest except probably the Fed Ex center which Memphis doesn't own. Like I said, depends how you want to prioritize. If you want a big arena we're not it. If you don't want to have a hard seat to sit on, nice concourse, and great viewing angles then you'll appreciate our arena. Did you even bother looking up our arena?


And I'll be back in March
I've been to the Ted (last season in fact) and no way is it better than Moody

What exactly about it is better. I haven't been there but not too impressed from what I've seen.

Sightlines, concessions, parking, atmosphere

Who were we playing?
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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-04-2019 02:12 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 02:01 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 12:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 12:52 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Where do people think most UMass grads end up? Boston. It's a huge state school that sends most of its grads to Boston. UConn has their games broadcast on SNY, and how many hours are they from New York? UMass absolutely gets you a leg in Boston. They've also shown that they'll emphatically support a winner with their hockey team. A flagship with that kind of brand recognition would be huge, but I agree they need a long term commitment to a football facility before membership, not after.

Petition your President to join a conference comprised of northeastern based schools.

Yea I'm sure the American would be a super attractive conference without the northeast schools.

So without UConn?

Isn't Philadelphia in the Mid-Atlantic?

Can we get a US map permanently penned to the top of the board?

Jesus Christ.

Also, it's Liacouras Center. It lacks some character, but is finally starting to age a bit. But it's a great facility that our campus is lucky to have in light of this football stadium disaster. We won't have to even think about a new facility for decades, not even major renovations. It might be a little too big for our fan base, but the 1 or 2 times it's filled to capacity every couple of years, it's worth it; the place rocks with a decent crowd, low ceiling for a facility of its size.
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RE: ODU to the AAC
Every time I read threads like this, and a dozen or so others, it sounds like offseason threads, you know, just usual bored gibbersh instead of mid-basketball season stuff.

Be interesting to see what the off season brings in the way of topics. I know though that it will be hard to top this recent nonsense.
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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-04-2019 04:51 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 04:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 03:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 01:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 12:07 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Get your list of oversized gyms with empty disjointed bleacher looking seats and no luxury boxes the hell out of here. The Ted would easily be top half. And our basketball attendance would be as well.

Pfft.

Ummm, sorry, no. All those ones I listed have those things. The Reynolds Center has some bench seating for the students section and the immediate surrounding area. As mentioned Memphis is NBA level, Houston and Cincinnati brand new and redone with all the fixings. Yuengling and Liacouras Center both have some nice amenities and plenty of chair back and a nice look to them. Koch was just redone like three or four years ago and is a beautiful facility. SMU was redone at about the same time as Koch, comes with all of that and often a former President. Throw in the Tulsa, UCF, and UConn's gyms and you might get to ten with a hard reach. The Tulane gym is a box, but it's a really nice box, so maybe not. I foresee Minges getting redone soon if Dooley brings a competitive program and builds momentum in a basketball crazed state.

You do average right at 6,400. Which is good enough for fourth in the AAC. With three programs near 6,000 though it's unlikely you will remain that high. SMU always does well and the other two are top four teams in Temple and Houston. By percentage of capacity you would get in at 7th and I doubt you will overtake those in front of you, which include the three mentioned at near 6,000 along with Cincy, WSU, UConn and Memphis.

The Ted Constant Center is 100% Chairback seating with 700 in a club level and 18 luxury suites completely encircling the arena (and we sell 'em), though with the seating arrangement there's not a bad seat in the place. If you're gong by size then no. If you're going by design, amenities and atmosphere there's only a few that can compete.

That 6,400 average represents a fanbase frustrated with not having reached the NCAA tournament in 7 years. So your doubt that we'll overtake those in front of us is just you uninformed opinion. We have and should be averaging well over 7K. Those are devoted season ticket buying, donation making fans. Not a few thousand students that noticed your team was ranked and will leave again just as easy.


I don't mind you saying ODU is not good enough for the AAC but don't be stupid about it. The fact that we have a larger and more devoted fanbase in basketball than most in your conference is not an opinion.


I know it's a crazy thing where you have to actually read the responses, but you should try it.

Which of these 8 arenas is ODU better than?

NBA arenas:
Memphis (FedEx Forum)

Recently Remodeled:
Cincy (5/3 Arena)
Houston (Feritia Center)
Smu (Moody Coliseum)
Wichita (Kock Arena)

Oldies but goodies built/updated in roughly the same time as yours (5 years):
Temple (Liacoursa Center)
USF (Yuengling Center)
Tulsa (Reynolds Center)

Again that's just to be in the contention for top 2/3rds.

Also nothing like talking trash about current average attendance. Come back and March, you'll be ninth or tenth at that in this conference too.

Easily the ones bolded. And we could debate the rest except probably the Fed Ex center which Memphis doesn't own. Like I said, depends how you want to prioritize. If you want a big arena we're not it. If you don't want to have a hard seat to sit on, nice concourse, and great viewing angles then you'll appreciate our arena. Did you even bother looking up our arena?


And I'll be back in March

Yes I did as well as your recent 15 year history with one losing record and quite a few 20 win seasons., did you look at those ones you think you are better than?

Lol the Reynolds Center is smaller than yours. It was built at virtually the same time and the only bench seating is the students. Nice amenities great view lines, our concourse area is exceptional.

The Yuengling Center is 10,000 and appears to be very nice. The USF women have drawn well and even way back when USF men's team drew decently. I have never heard that they have bad sightlines, not sure on seats with backs. Looks like most do though.

Moody? Lol no, just no. It's also smaller than yours and is plush to say the least.

In fact you would have the eighth largest arena. Bigger than Tulsa (8,355), Houston (7,100), ECU (7,100), SMU (7,000), and Tulane (3,600)... the Florida schools, UConn, Memphis, Temple, Cincy and Wichita are all bigger than 10,000 though.
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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-04-2019 05:29 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Every time I read threads like this, and a dozen or so others, it sounds like offseason threads, you know, just usual bored gibbersh instead of mid-basketball season stuff.

Be interesting to see what the off season brings in the way of topics. I know though that it will be hard to top this recent nonsense.

Just treading water during the sports lull. Baseball will be upon us soon enough.
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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-05-2019 08:29 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 05:29 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Every time I read threads like this, and a dozen or so others, it sounds like offseason threads, you know, just usual bored gibbersh instead of mid-basketball season stuff.

Be interesting to see what the off season brings in the way of topics. I know though that it will be hard to top this recent nonsense.

Just treading water during the sports lull. Baseball will be upon us soon enough.

Sports lull?

We are getting to the exciting part of basketball season.

As for this thread topic, it makes no sense.
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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-05-2019 08:37 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  
(02-05-2019 08:29 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 05:29 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Every time I read threads like this, and a dozen or so others, it sounds like offseason threads, you know, just usual bored gibbersh instead of mid-basketball season stuff.

Be interesting to see what the off season brings in the way of topics. I know though that it will be hard to top this recent nonsense.

Just treading water during the sports lull. Baseball will be upon us soon enough.

Sports lull?

We are getting to the exciting part of basketball season.

As for this thread topic, it makes no sense.

oh man you're right! I completely forgot about the exciting part.

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RE: ODU to the AAC
(02-05-2019 08:50 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-05-2019 08:37 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  
(02-05-2019 08:29 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 05:29 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Every time I read threads like this, and a dozen or so others, it sounds like offseason threads, you know, just usual bored gibbersh instead of mid-basketball season stuff.

Be interesting to see what the off season brings in the way of topics. I know though that it will be hard to top this recent nonsense.

Just treading water during the sports lull. Baseball will be upon us soon enough.

Sports lull?

We are getting to the exciting part of basketball season.

As for this thread topic, it makes no sense.

oh man you're right! I completely forgot about the exciting part.

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Well - if you aren't used to being a part of it I guess that could happen.
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