Question: Is the AAC leaning towards any geographic area? Or would it take the best teams it could get anywhere in the country?

From my perspective its seems that Central and Eastern part of the country are where they want to be. I dont see the AAC taking west coast teams. Also markets matter much more in AAC than C-USA. Norfolk and Richmond are always some of the most watched markets for sporting events.

(02-01-2019 09:29 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 08:40 AM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 06:16 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:32 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  In my opinion ODU would be at the top of my list depending on other expansion candidates at the time the league decides to expand. Great eastern time zone candidate in an excellent TV market. Fertile recruiting area and a natural geographic rival with ECU and Navy. That move really makes a lot on sense if you have to balance out a western add as well. ODU, Army, BYU, and Air Force then call it a day.

Not the market bs talk again.

I clearly stated other positive attributes in that post. They are obviously an attractive candidate if the conference considers expanding.

Would be terrible for ECU, why elevate someone in your backyard when you don't have to. That's not a knock on them, it just isn't in our interest to do it.

Geographic rivalry is good for ECU and this league. We'll just have to compete and I'm not scared. This would also increase our take in Tidewater for recruiting. It runs both ways.

(02-01-2019 12:01 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  Question: Is the AAC leaning towards any geographic area? Or would it take the best teams it could get anywhere in the country?

From my perspective its seems that Central and Eastern part of the country are where they want to be. I dont see the AAC taking west coast teams. Also markets matter much more in AAC than C-USA. Norfolk and Richmond are always some of the most watched markets for sporting events.

The league needs to keep a strong representation in the eastern time zone. Very few viable candidates left.

(02-01-2019 12:16 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 09:29 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 08:40 AM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 06:16 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:32 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  In my opinion ODU would be at the top of my list depending on other expansion candidates at the time the league decides to expand. Great eastern time zone candidate in an excellent TV market. Fertile recruiting area and a natural geographic rival with ECU and Navy. That move really makes a lot on sense if you have to balance out a western add as well. ODU, Army, BYU, and Air Force then call it a day.

Not the market bs talk again.

I clearly stated other positive attributes in that post. They are obviously an attractive candidate if the conference considers expanding.

Would be terrible for ECU, why elevate someone in your backyard when you don't have to. That's not a knock on them, it just isn't in our interest to do it.

Geographic rivalry is good for ECU and this league. We'll just have to compete and I'm not scared. This would also increase our take in Tidewater for recruiting. It runs both ways.

ODU and ECU as travel partners/rivals would be great for both teams.

(02-01-2019 09:29 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 08:40 AM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 06:16 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:32 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  In my opinion ODU would be at the top of my list depending on other expansion candidates at the time the league decides to expand. Great eastern time zone candidate in an excellent TV market. Fertile recruiting area and a natural geographic rival with ECU and Navy. That move really makes a lot on sense if you have to balance out a western add as well. ODU, Army, BYU, and Air Force then call it a day.

Not the market bs talk again.

I clearly stated other positive attributes in that post. They are obviously an attractive candidate if the conference considers expanding.

Would be terrible for ECU, why elevate someone in your backyard when you don't have to. That's not a knock on them, it just isn't in our interest to do it.

I could be wrong but I thought ECU played a part in getting ODU into CUSA. I'm not sure why creating a new rival 2 hours away could ever be a bad thing.

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 01:37 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 09:29 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 08:40 AM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 06:16 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:32 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  In my opinion ODU would be at the top of my list depending on other expansion candidates at the time the league decides to expand. Great eastern time zone candidate in an excellent TV market. Fertile recruiting area and a natural geographic rival with ECU and Navy. That move really makes a lot on sense if you have to balance out a western add as well. ODU, Army, BYU, and Air Force then call it a day.

Not the market bs talk again.

I clearly stated other positive attributes in that post. They are obviously an attractive candidate if the conference considers expanding.

Would be terrible for ECU, why elevate someone in your backyard when you don't have to. That's not a knock on them, it just isn't in our interest to do it.

I could be wrong but I thought ECU played a part in getting ODU into CUSA. I'm not sure why creating a new rival 2 hours away could ever be a bad thing.

Because we have massive recruiting leverage/advantage over you now. Why on earth would anyone want to give that up?

It's the reason why the ACC would never consider an ECU, CHarlotte, or ODU. Put us on equal footing and have us get our fair share of elite recruits in NC, nope.

When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 01:51 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

You're not winning on a regular basis. I can't recall if we passed Ximines or missed on him, Jorrell Baum didn't have a standing offer to ECU.

(02-01-2019 01:58 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 01:51 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

You're not winning on a regular basis. I can't recall if we passed Ximines or missed on him, Jorrell Baum didn't have a standing offer to ECU.

You missed. I didnt say we are flat out beating you overall in recruiting. Every school that is close to another is competing for recruits. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't be in the same conference.

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 02:06 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 01:58 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(10-04-2018 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  A few years ago I met some ODU fans at the NIT semi finals in NYC. Big group friendly bunch passionate supportive fans. I approve ODU to be included on the American Possible Futures list.

(02-01-2019 01:51 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

You're not winning on a regular basis. I can't recall if we passed Ximines or missed on him, Jorrell Baum didn't have a standing offer to ECU.

You missed. I didnt say we are flat out beating you overall in recruiting. Every school that is close to another is competing for recruits. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't be in the same conference.

In an ideal world there should be a level playing field in college football, but there isn't. There is really no reason for ECU to want an ODU. It isn't like we can't schedule you anyway.

If a Cincy got poached, then you're one of the top candidates, but as of today no reason to add.

(02-01-2019 01:51 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

For one I wouldn't hate ODU getting in for a natural rival but c'mon man, you pick one player that chose ODU over an offer from ECU and say we "compete" for recruits. Of your signees so far this year ECU offered ZERO of them, and not sure I even saw where were listed as having interest on any of them. You're competing with FCS/DII and DIII for the most part.

And the one player still listed as a commit over an ECU offer also committed to ODU over an offer from Tennessee so obviously there was some issue there with him. I'd be willing to bet he never makes it to your campus, goes to a JUCO.

We could certainly compete on a regular basis for recruits if you were in the AAC but you're not, and it's going to take more than going 2-6 in CUSA to get an invite.

You guys should have stuck with the original Big East plan and made ECU a football only add.

(02-01-2019 02:24 PM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 01:51 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

For one I wouldn't hate ODU getting in for a natural rival but c'mon man, you pick one player that chose ODU over an offer from ECU and say we "compete" for recruits. Of your signees so far this year ECU offered ZERO of them, and not sure I even saw where were listed as having interest on any of them. You're competing with FCS/DII and DIII for the most part.

And the one player still listed as a commit over an ECU offer also committed to ODU over an offer from Tennessee so obviously there was some issue there with him. I'd be willing to bet he never makes it to your campus, goes to a JUCO.

We could certainly compete on a regular basis for recruits if you were in the AAC but you're not, and it's going to take more than going 2-6 in CUSA to get an invite.

I think ODU getting in the AAC makes you nervous. ODU football has huge potential and we are already light years ahead in basketball.

(02-01-2019 02:31 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 02:24 PM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 01:51 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

For one I wouldn't hate ODU getting in for a natural rival but c'mon man, you pick one player that chose ODU over an offer from ECU and say we "compete" for recruits. Of your signees so far this year ECU offered ZERO of them, and not sure I even saw where were listed as having interest on any of them. You're competing with FCS/DII and DIII for the most part.

And the one player still listed as a commit over an ECU offer also committed to ODU over an offer from Tennessee so obviously there was some issue there with him. I'd be willing to bet he never makes it to your campus, goes to a JUCO.

We could certainly compete on a regular basis for recruits if you were in the AAC but you're not, and it's going to take more than going 2-6 in CUSA to get an invite.

I think ODU getting in the AAC makes you nervous. ODU football has huge potential and we are already light years ahead in basketball.

Literally my first sentence was I wouldn't mind ODU getting into our conference. Would be good to have a close rival. And you sure are ahead of us in bball.

Don't have such a little man complex.

(02-01-2019 02:43 PM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 02:31 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 02:24 PM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 01:51 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

For one I wouldn't hate ODU getting in for a natural rival but c'mon man, you pick one player that chose ODU over an offer from ECU and say we "compete" for recruits. Of your signees so far this year ECU offered ZERO of them, and not sure I even saw where were listed as having interest on any of them. You're competing with FCS/DII and DIII for the most part.

And the one player still listed as a commit over an ECU offer also committed to ODU over an offer from Tennessee so obviously there was some issue there with him. I'd be willing to bet he never makes it to your campus, goes to a JUCO.

We could certainly compete on a regular basis for recruits if you were in the AAC but you're not, and it's going to take more than going 2-6 in CUSA to get an invite.

I think ODU getting in the AAC makes you nervous. ODU football has huge potential and we are already light years ahead in basketball.

Literally my first sentence was I wouldn't mind ODU getting into our conference. Would be good to have a close rival. And you sure are ahead of us in bball.

Don't have such a little man complex.

Hey its G5 we all have it lol

We'll be a decent candidate when the time comes if we can put all the pieces together. An MBB NCAAT appearance, a few lesser FB bowl appearances, and incremental improvements in overall academic standing would get us well on the way.

(02-01-2019 10:03 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  We'll be a decent candidate when the time comes if we can put all the pieces together. An MBB NCAAT appearance, a few lesser FB bowl appearances, and incremental improvements in overall academic standing would get us well on the way.

Because of UMass desirable location I believe that may be one program y'all may want to keep an eye out for IMO.

Only problem with UMass however their blueprint sales pitch screams "We won't build or renovate anything unless we are given membership assurance first".

(02-03-2019 11:49 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 10:03 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  We'll be a decent candidate when the time comes if we can put all the pieces together. An MBB NCAAT appearance, a few lesser FB bowl appearances, and incremental improvements in overall academic standing would get us well on the way.

Because of UMass desirable location I believe that may be one program y'all may want to keep an eye out for IMO.

Only problem with UMass however their blueprint sales pitch screams "We won't build or renovate anything unless we are given membership assurance first".

Are you on crack?

UMASS is about 95 miles away (2 plus he's in traffic from Boston) in literally in the middle of no where.

UMASS has a desirable location....said no one ever till now.

(02-03-2019 12:36 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 11:49 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 10:03 PM)CameramanJ Wrote:  We'll be a decent candidate when the time comes if we can put all the pieces together. An MBB NCAAT appearance, a few lesser FB bowl appearances, and incremental improvements in overall academic standing would get us well on the way.

Because of UMass desirable location I believe that may be one program y'all may want to keep an eye out for IMO.

Only problem with UMass however their blueprint sales pitch screams "We won't build or renovate anything unless we are given membership assurance first".

Are you going on crack?

UMASS is about 95 miles away (2 plus he's in traffic from Boston) in literally in the middle of no where.

UMASS has a desirable location....so no one ever till now.

Most here flunked geography.

(02-01-2019 02:31 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 02:24 PM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 01:51 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  When ODU decided to move to C-USA, they started competing with ECU for recruits.

Oshane Ximines who is likely to be a first round pick was from ECU's back yard. He chose ODU.

ODU and ECU in the same conference doesn't change the fact that we are competing for recruits.

For one I wouldn't hate ODU getting in for a natural rival but c'mon man, you pick one player that chose ODU over an offer from ECU and say we "compete" for recruits. Of your signees so far this year ECU offered ZERO of them, and not sure I even saw where were listed as having interest on any of them. You're competing with FCS/DII and DIII for the most part.

And the one player still listed as a commit over an ECU offer also committed to ODU over an offer from Tennessee so obviously there was some issue there with him. I'd be willing to bet he never makes it to your campus, goes to a JUCO.

We could certainly compete on a regular basis for recruits if you were in the AAC but you're not, and it's going to take more than going 2-6 in CUSA to get an invite.

I think ODU getting in the AAC makes you nervous. ODU football has huge potential and we are already light years ahead in basketball.

I certainly would make us nervous because it's not in our best interest. We're already having enough trouble with UNCC and App State moving to FBS in NC. If UNCC, App, Coastal Carolina, or ODU were to move to the AAC/ACC/SEC, however unlikely, they would be more competitive for recruits.

And yes, I realize that ODU was able to win a recruit over ECU but, as stated above, it's not the norm. Look at our commit list over the last few years and look at yours. Count how many of our commits have ODU offers, and how many ODU commits have ECU offers.

Here's 2019 just for funsies:

ECU commits with ODU offers (of 18 total commits)
Bailey Malovic
Jsi Hatfield
Hozey Haji-Badri
Alex Angus
Traveon Freshwater
Demetrius Mauney
Jeremy Lewis


ODU commits with ECU offers (of 32 total commits)
Jorell Baum

That might be more even if ODU were in the AAC. To be fair, you'll find a similar pattern if you compare ECU to NC State or UNC-Chapel Hill, which it why it's not in those teams' best interest for ECU to join the ACC.