(02-04-2019 12:52 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Where do people think most UMass grads end up? Boston. It's a huge state school that sends most of its grads to Boston. UConn has their games broadcast on SNY, and how many hours are they from New York? UMass absolutely gets you a leg in Boston. They've also shown that they'll emphatically support a winner with their hockey team. A flagship with that kind of brand recognition would be huge, but I agree they need a long term commitment to a football facility before membership, not after.

Petition your President to join a conference comprised of northeastern based schools.

(02-04-2019 12:07 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 06:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 04:53 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 04:41 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 03:15 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I have absolutely nothing against ODU I just think they like many from the lower conferences have a lot of facility improvements they must improve on if their wish is to join a much better FBS league.

I really like ODU's football dedication... If ODU had say a new impressive 35k - 40k football stadium I believe this could very well place them in an outstanding position for the AAC.

We are in the process of rebuilding our stadium. First phase will completely tear down the east and west stands and replace almost all of the existing seating. Phase 1 will only be 21,400 but it can continue to be expanded as needed.

Our basketball arena is the nicest in C-USA and would easily compete for the best in AAC. Seats 8,700 for basketball games.

Bit of a stretch. Maybe top half...

Maybe? Eh....Not likely? Seems more accurate.

Memphis NBA, Cincy and Houston brand new, Wichita, SMU, Temple's, the Yuengling center is pretty solid, as is the Reynolds Center. Better than Tulane and ECU? Sure no argument.

Get your list of oversized gyms with empty disjointed bleacher looking seats and no luxury boxes the hell out of here. The Ted would easily be top half. And our basketball attendance would be as well.

Pfft.

Ummm, sorry, no. All those ones I listed have those things. The Reynolds Center has some bench seating for the students section and the immediate surrounding area. As mentioned Memphis is NBA level, Houston and Cincinnati brand new and redone with all the fixings. Yuengling and Liacouras Center both have some nice amenities and plenty of chair back and a nice look to them. Koch was just redone like three or four years ago and is a beautiful facility. SMU was redone at about the same time as Koch, comes with all of that and often a former President. Throw in the Tulsa, UCF, and UConn's gyms and you might get to ten with a hard reach. The Tulane gym is a box, but it's a really nice box, so maybe not. I foresee Minges getting redone soon if Dooley brings a competitive program and builds momentum in a basketball crazed state.

You do average right at 6,400. Which is good enough for fourth in the AAC. With three programs near 6,000 though it's unlikely you will remain that high. SMU always does well and the other two are top four teams in Temple and Houston. By percentage of capacity you would get in at 7th and I doubt you will overtake those in front of you, which include the three mentioned at near 6,000 along with Cincy, WSU, UConn and Memphis.

(02-04-2019 12:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:52 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Where do people think most UMass grads end up? Boston. It's a huge state school that sends most of its grads to Boston. UConn has their games broadcast on SNY, and how many hours are they from New York? UMass absolutely gets you a leg in Boston. They've also shown that they'll emphatically support a winner with their hockey team. A flagship with that kind of brand recognition would be huge, but I agree they need a long term commitment to a football facility before membership, not after.

Petition your President to join a conference comprised of northeastern based schools.

Yea I'm sure the American would be a super attractive conference without the northeast schools.

(02-04-2019 02:01 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:52 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Where do people think most UMass grads end up? Boston. It's a huge state school that sends most of its grads to Boston. UConn has their games broadcast on SNY, and how many hours are they from New York? UMass absolutely gets you a leg in Boston. They've also shown that they'll emphatically support a winner with their hockey team. A flagship with that kind of brand recognition would be huge, but I agree they need a long term commitment to a football facility before membership, not after.

Petition your President to join a conference comprised of northeastern based schools.

Yea I'm sure the American would be a super attractive conference without the northeast schools.

So without UConn?

Isn't Philadelphia in the Mid-Atlantic?

Can we get a US map permanently penned to the top of the board?

(02-04-2019 02:01 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:52 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Where do people think most UMass grads end up? Boston. It's a huge state school that sends most of its grads to Boston. UConn has their games broadcast on SNY, and how many hours are they from New York? UMass absolutely gets you a leg in Boston. They've also shown that they'll emphatically support a winner with their hockey team. A flagship with that kind of brand recognition would be huge, but I agree they need a long term commitment to a football facility before membership, not after.

Petition your President to join a conference comprised of northeastern based schools.

Yea I'm sure the American would be a super attractive conference without the northeast schools.

All kidding aside, I worked in Boston for many years, attended any sporting events that I could get tickets to and enjoyed all but Boston College (While still in BIG EAST and after leaving). I watched one game while they were in BIG EAST and one after they left, the atmosphere SUCKED!!!

IF UMass had a Football stadium that seats 30K with ability to expand in the future they would be a great add if they could win.

They have plenty to draw from of a population within one hour drive and Boston is 1:45 hrs away and they would make drive to watch a winning product.

BUT they would have to make the INVESTMENTS!!

(02-04-2019 02:12 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 02:01 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:53 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:52 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Where do people think most UMass grads end up? Boston. It's a huge state school that sends most of its grads to Boston. UConn has their games broadcast on SNY, and how many hours are they from New York? UMass absolutely gets you a leg in Boston. They've also shown that they'll emphatically support a winner with their hockey team. A flagship with that kind of brand recognition would be huge, but I agree they need a long term commitment to a football facility before membership, not after.

Petition your President to join a conference comprised of northeastern based schools.

Yea I'm sure the American would be a super attractive conference without the northeast schools.

So without UConn?

Isn't Philadelphia in the Mid-Atlantic?

Can we get a US map permanently penned to the top of the board?

No, no, no, philly is in india thats why they have a school named temple.


Sent from the warp via the ruinous powers of chaos.

The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

(02-04-2019 03:20 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

Better than Tulsa, Tulane and SMU's

(02-04-2019 03:20 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

Can't tell if this is a football or basketball related question since the last page or so has been about our basketball arena. We haven't been to the NCAAT in nearly a decade and are still drawing 8600 against friggin Rice on Saturday night. If we had an AAC invite/schedule the attendance would be higher.

For football, I am not sure. Our newly renovated stadium will seat 22,000 so we aren't winning any attendance battles there.

I know this thread is a joke, but something I'd like to remind everyone about ODU is we are the only show in town sports-wise. Hampton Roads is the largest metro area that doesn't have a professional sport in its highest league (NBA, NFL, etc). As such, when ODU added football the season tickets sold out immediately and there was a large waiting list. We aren't competing with any other sports in the area. So when we do well we are going to draw sellouts, and when we suck we are going to draw 5,700 (that's the average-ish attendance the year after our 5-25 season). Anyway. Have you guys all sent this thread to your ADs yet?

(02-04-2019 01:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:07 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 06:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 04:53 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 04:41 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  We are in the process of rebuilding our stadium. First phase will completely tear down the east and west stands and replace almost all of the existing seating. Phase 1 will only be 21,400 but it can continue to be expanded as needed.

Our basketball arena is the nicest in C-USA and would easily compete for the best in AAC. Seats 8,700 for basketball games.

Bit of a stretch. Maybe top half...

Maybe? Eh....Not likely? Seems more accurate.

Memphis NBA, Cincy and Houston brand new, Wichita, SMU, Temple's, the Yuengling center is pretty solid, as is the Reynolds Center. Better than Tulane and ECU? Sure no argument.

Get your list of oversized gyms with empty disjointed bleacher looking seats and no luxury boxes the hell out of here. The Ted would easily be top half. And our basketball attendance would be as well.

Pfft.

Ummm, sorry, no. All those ones I listed have those things. The Reynolds Center has some bench seating for the students section and the immediate surrounding area. As mentioned Memphis is NBA level, Houston and Cincinnati brand new and redone with all the fixings. Yuengling and Liacouras Center both have some nice amenities and plenty of chair back and a nice look to them. Koch was just redone like three or four years ago and is a beautiful facility. SMU was redone at about the same time as Koch, comes with all of that and often a former President. Throw in the Tulsa, UCF, and UConn's gyms and you might get to ten with a hard reach. The Tulane gym is a box, but it's a really nice box, so maybe not. I foresee Minges getting redone soon if Dooley brings a competitive program and builds momentum in a basketball crazed state.

You do average right at 6,400. Which is good enough for fourth in the AAC. With three programs near 6,000 though it's unlikely you will remain that high. SMU always does well and the other two are top four teams in Temple and Houston. By percentage of capacity you would get in at 7th and I doubt you will overtake those in front of you, which include the three mentioned at near 6,000 along with Cincy, WSU, UConn and Memphis.

The Ted Constant Center is 100% Chairback seating with 700 in a club level and 18 luxury suites completely encircling the arena (and we sell 'em), though with the seating arrangement there's not a bad seat in the place. If you're gong by size then no. If you're going by design, amenities and atmosphere there's only a few that can compete.

That 6,400 average represents a fanbase frustrated with not having reached the NCAA tournament in 7 years. So your doubt that we'll overtake those in front of us is just you uninformed opinion. We have and should be averaging well over 7K. Those are devoted season ticket buying, donation making fans. Not a few thousand students that noticed your team was ranked and will leave again just as easy.


I don't mind you saying ODU is not good enough for the AAC but don't be stupid about it. The fact that we have a larger and more devoted fanbase in basketball than most in your conference is not an opinion.

(02-04-2019 03:34 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:20 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

Can't tell if this is a football or basketball related question since the last page or so has been about our basketball arena. We haven't been to the NCAAT in nearly a decade and are still drawing 8600 against friggin Rice on Saturday night. If we had an AAC invite/schedule the attendance would be higher.

For football, I am not sure. Our newly renovated stadium will seat 22,000 so we aren't winning any attendance battles there.

I know this thread is a joke, but something I'd like to remind everyone about ODU is we are the only show in town sports-wise. Hampton Roads is the largest metro area that doesn't have a professional sport in its highest league (NBA, NFL, etc). As such, when ODU added football the season tickets sold out immediately and there was a large waiting list. We aren't competing with any other sports in the area. So when we do well we are going to draw sellouts, and when we suck we are going to draw 5,700 (that's the average-ish attendance the year after our 5-25 season). Anyway. Have you guys all sent this thread to your ADs yet?

It matters for both. This is the reality. While the AAC is at 12 members it only makes sense to add someone that actually boosts the conference metrics (i.e. a Wichita). Prospects that only meet the average metrics of the current members (or worse are below average) offer nothing to the conference. Look at Wichita they aren't very good this year but they're still top 3-4 in attendance. Even in a rare down year they still boost the conference's perception. However they're also not a team that will stay at the bottom of the league. They're a proven program that's shown the ability to compete at the highest level. The AAC shouldn't add teams based on potential when it can just wait it out and see if that potential is realized and maintained. That may change if we're raided and a major need arises but we can cross that road when we get there.

(02-04-2019 03:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 01:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:07 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 06:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 04:53 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Bit of a stretch. Maybe top half...

Maybe? Eh....Not likely? Seems more accurate.

Memphis NBA, Cincy and Houston brand new, Wichita, SMU, Temple's, the Yuengling center is pretty solid, as is the Reynolds Center. Better than Tulane and ECU? Sure no argument.

Get your list of oversized gyms with empty disjointed bleacher looking seats and no luxury boxes the hell out of here. The Ted would easily be top half. And our basketball attendance would be as well.

Pfft.

Ummm, sorry, no. All those ones I listed have those things. The Reynolds Center has some bench seating for the students section and the immediate surrounding area. As mentioned Memphis is NBA level, Houston and Cincinnati brand new and redone with all the fixings. Yuengling and Liacouras Center both have some nice amenities and plenty of chair back and a nice look to them. Koch was just redone like three or four years ago and is a beautiful facility. SMU was redone at about the same time as Koch, comes with all of that and often a former President. Throw in the Tulsa, UCF, and UConn's gyms and you might get to ten with a hard reach. The Tulane gym is a box, but it's a really nice box, so maybe not. I foresee Minges getting redone soon if Dooley brings a competitive program and builds momentum in a basketball crazed state.

You do average right at 6,400. Which is good enough for fourth in the AAC. With three programs near 6,000 though it's unlikely you will remain that high. SMU always does well and the other two are top four teams in Temple and Houston. By percentage of capacity you would get in at 7th and I doubt you will overtake those in front of you, which include the three mentioned at near 6,000 along with Cincy, WSU, UConn and Memphis.

The Ted Constant Center is 100% Chairback seating with 700 in a club level and 18 luxury suites completely encircling the arena (and we sell 'em), though with the seating arrangement there's not a bad seat in the place. If you're gong by size then no. If you're going by design, amenities and atmosphere there's only a few that can compete.

That 6,400 average represents a fanbase frustrated with not having reached the NCAA tournament in 7 years. So your doubt that we'll overtake those in front of us is just you uninformed opinion. We have and should be averaging well over 7K. Those are devoted season ticket buying, donation making fans. Not a few thousand students that noticed your team was ranked and will leave again just as easy.


I don't mind you saying ODU is not good enough for the AAC but don't be stupid about it. The fact that we have a larger and more devoted fanbase in basketball than most in your conference is not an opinion.

That's not something that gets remedied by joining the AAC though. If anything it might actually become something harder to do which could worsen your attendance. Not trying to attack, just saying.

(02-04-2019 03:34 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:20 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

Can't tell if this is a football or basketball related question since the last page or so has been about our basketball arena. We haven't been to the NCAAT in nearly a decade and are still drawing 8600 against friggin Rice on Saturday night. If we had an AAC invite/schedule the attendance would be higher.

For football, I am not sure. Our newly renovated stadium will seat 22,000 so we aren't winning any attendance battles there.

I know this thread is a joke, but something I'd like to remind everyone about ODU is we are the only show in town sports-wise. Hampton Roads is the largest metro area that doesn't have a professional sport in its highest league (NBA, NFL, etc). As such, when ODU added football the season tickets sold out immediately and there was a large waiting list. We aren't competing with any other sports in the area. So when we do well we are going to draw sellouts, and when we suck we are going to draw 5,700 (that's the average-ish attendance the year after our 5-25 season). Anyway. Have you guys all sent this thread to your ADs yet?

I hope he means football. I can't imagine a Houston fan talking **** about basketball attendance.

(02-04-2019 03:48 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:34 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:20 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

Can't tell if this is a football or basketball related question since the last page or so has been about our basketball arena. We haven't been to the NCAAT in nearly a decade and are still drawing 8600 against friggin Rice on Saturday night. If we had an AAC invite/schedule the attendance would be higher.

For football, I am not sure. Our newly renovated stadium will seat 22,000 so we aren't winning any attendance battles there.

I know this thread is a joke, but something I'd like to remind everyone about ODU is we are the only show in town sports-wise. Hampton Roads is the largest metro area that doesn't have a professional sport in its highest league (NBA, NFL, etc). As such, when ODU added football the season tickets sold out immediately and there was a large waiting list. We aren't competing with any other sports in the area. So when we do well we are going to draw sellouts, and when we suck we are going to draw 5,700 (that's the average-ish attendance the year after our 5-25 season). Anyway. Have you guys all sent this thread to your ADs yet?

It matters for both. This is the reality. While the AAC is at 12 members it only makes sense to add someone that actually boosts the conference metrics (i.e. a Wichita). Prospects that only meet the average metrics of the current members (or worse are below average) offer nothing to the conference. Look at Wichita they aren't very good this year but they're still top 3-4 in attendance. Even in a rare down year they still boost the conference's perception. However they're also not a team that will stay at the bottom of the league. They're a proven program that's shown the ability to compete at the highest level. The AAC shouldn't add teams based on potential when it can just wait it out and see if that potential is realized and maintained. That may change if we're raided and a major need arises but we can cross that road when we get there.

From an attendance standpoint, I think we've proved that we have the support regardless of record. From a performance standpoint in basketball, since the latest realignment of CUSA we've finished no worse than 4th. Football, I am not sure I am qualified to answer, but I would think it's still a disappointment. We can only use the startup excuse for so long. But hey, we beat Va Tech, so there's that.

(02-04-2019 03:52 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:34 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:20 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

Can't tell if this is a football or basketball related question since the last page or so has been about our basketball arena. We haven't been to the NCAAT in nearly a decade and are still drawing 8600 against friggin Rice on Saturday night. If we had an AAC invite/schedule the attendance would be higher.

For football, I am not sure. Our newly renovated stadium will seat 22,000 so we aren't winning any attendance battles there.

I know this thread is a joke, but something I'd like to remind everyone about ODU is we are the only show in town sports-wise. Hampton Roads is the largest metro area that doesn't have a professional sport in its highest league (NBA, NFL, etc). As such, when ODU added football the season tickets sold out immediately and there was a large waiting list. We aren't competing with any other sports in the area. So when we do well we are going to draw sellouts, and when we suck we are going to draw 5,700 (that's the average-ish attendance the year after our 5-25 season). Anyway. Have you guys all sent this thread to your ADs yet?

I hope he means football. I can't imagine a Houston fan talking **** about basketball attendance.

Youre right, we don't. Just everything else.

(02-04-2019 03:58 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:52 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:34 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:20 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

Can't tell if this is a football or basketball related question since the last page or so has been about our basketball arena. We haven't been to the NCAAT in nearly a decade and are still drawing 8600 against friggin Rice on Saturday night. If we had an AAC invite/schedule the attendance would be higher.

For football, I am not sure. Our newly renovated stadium will seat 22,000 so we aren't winning any attendance battles there.

I know this thread is a joke, but something I'd like to remind everyone about ODU is we are the only show in town sports-wise. Hampton Roads is the largest metro area that doesn't have a professional sport in its highest league (NBA, NFL, etc). As such, when ODU added football the season tickets sold out immediately and there was a large waiting list. We aren't competing with any other sports in the area. So when we do well we are going to draw sellouts, and when we suck we are going to draw 5,700 (that's the average-ish attendance the year after our 5-25 season). Anyway. Have you guys all sent this thread to your ADs yet?

I hope he means football. I can't imagine a Houston fan talking **** about basketball attendance.

Youre right, we don't. Just everything else.

And you still doing better than Tulsa.

(02-04-2019 03:34 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:20 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The real question is what would ODU's attendance look like after 10 years of being a doormat in this conference.

Can't tell if this is a football or basketball related question since the last page or so has been about our basketball arena. We haven't been to the NCAAT in nearly a decade and are still drawing 8600 against friggin Rice on Saturday night. If we had an AAC invite/schedule the attendance would be higher.

For football, I am not sure. Our newly renovated stadium will seat 22,000 so we aren't winning any attendance battles there.

I know this thread is a joke, but something I'd like to remind everyone about ODU is we are the only show in town sports-wise. Hampton Roads is the largest metro area that doesn't have a professional sport in its highest league (NBA, NFL, etc). As such, when ODU added football the season tickets sold out immediately and there was a large waiting list. We aren't competing with any other sports in the area. So when we do well we are going to draw sellouts, and when we suck we are going to draw 5,700 (that's the average-ish attendance the year after our 5-25 season). Anyway. Have you guys all sent this thread to your ADs yet?

South Alabama probably doesn't have any sports competition either. Nothing but Jaguars fans down in Mobile.

(02-04-2019 03:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 01:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:07 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 06:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 04:53 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Bit of a stretch. Maybe top half...

Maybe? Eh....Not likely? Seems more accurate.

Memphis NBA, Cincy and Houston brand new, Wichita, SMU, Temple's, the Yuengling center is pretty solid, as is the Reynolds Center. Better than Tulane and ECU? Sure no argument.

Get your list of oversized gyms with empty disjointed bleacher looking seats and no luxury boxes the hell out of here. The Ted would easily be top half. And our basketball attendance would be as well.

Pfft.

Ummm, sorry, no. All those ones I listed have those things. The Reynolds Center has some bench seating for the students section and the immediate surrounding area. As mentioned Memphis is NBA level, Houston and Cincinnati brand new and redone with all the fixings. Yuengling and Liacouras Center both have some nice amenities and plenty of chair back and a nice look to them. Koch was just redone like three or four years ago and is a beautiful facility. SMU was redone at about the same time as Koch, comes with all of that and often a former President. Throw in the Tulsa, UCF, and UConn's gyms and you might get to ten with a hard reach. The Tulane gym is a box, but it's a really nice box, so maybe not. I foresee Minges getting redone soon if Dooley brings a competitive program and builds momentum in a basketball crazed state.

You do average right at 6,400. Which is good enough for fourth in the AAC. With three programs near 6,000 though it's unlikely you will remain that high. SMU always does well and the other two are top four teams in Temple and Houston. By percentage of capacity you would get in at 7th and I doubt you will overtake those in front of you, which include the three mentioned at near 6,000 along with Cincy, WSU, UConn and Memphis.

The Ted Constant Center is 100% Chairback seating with 700 in a club level and 18 luxury suites completely encircling the arena (and we sell 'em), though with the seating arrangement there's not a bad seat in the place. If you're gong by size then no. If you're going by design, amenities and atmosphere there's only a few that can compete.

That 6,400 average represents a fanbase frustrated with not having reached the NCAA tournament in 7 years. So your doubt that we'll overtake those in front of us is just you uninformed opinion. We have and should be averaging well over 7K. Those are devoted season ticket buying, donation making fans. Not a few thousand students that noticed your team was ranked and will leave again just as easy.


I don't mind you saying ODU is not good enough for the AAC but don't be stupid about it. The fact that we have a larger and more devoted fanbase in basketball than most in your conference is not an opinion.

I know it's a crazy thing where you have to actually read the responses, but you should try it.

Which of these 8 arenas is ODU better than?

NBA arenas:
Memphis (FedEx Forum)

Recently Remodeled:
Cincy (5/3 Arena)
Houston (Feritia Center)
Smu (Moody Coliseum)
Wichita (Kock Arena)

Oldies but goodies built/updated in roughly the same time as yours (5 years):
Temple (Liacoursa Center)
USF (Yuengling Center)
Tulsa (Reynolds Center)

Again that's just to be in the contention for top 2/3rds.

Also nothing like talking trash about current average attendance. Come back and March, you'll be ninth or tenth at that in this conference too.

(02-04-2019 04:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 01:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:07 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 06:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Maybe? Eh....Not likely? Seems more accurate.

Memphis NBA, Cincy and Houston brand new, Wichita, SMU, Temple's, the Yuengling center is pretty solid, as is the Reynolds Center. Better than Tulane and ECU? Sure no argument.

Get your list of oversized gyms with empty disjointed bleacher looking seats and no luxury boxes the hell out of here. The Ted would easily be top half. And our basketball attendance would be as well.

Pfft.

Ummm, sorry, no. All those ones I listed have those things. The Reynolds Center has some bench seating for the students section and the immediate surrounding area. As mentioned Memphis is NBA level, Houston and Cincinnati brand new and redone with all the fixings. Yuengling and Liacouras Center both have some nice amenities and plenty of chair back and a nice look to them. Koch was just redone like three or four years ago and is a beautiful facility. SMU was redone at about the same time as Koch, comes with all of that and often a former President. Throw in the Tulsa, UCF, and UConn's gyms and you might get to ten with a hard reach. The Tulane gym is a box, but it's a really nice box, so maybe not. I foresee Minges getting redone soon if Dooley brings a competitive program and builds momentum in a basketball crazed state.

You do average right at 6,400. Which is good enough for fourth in the AAC. With three programs near 6,000 though it's unlikely you will remain that high. SMU always does well and the other two are top four teams in Temple and Houston. By percentage of capacity you would get in at 7th and I doubt you will overtake those in front of you, which include the three mentioned at near 6,000 along with Cincy, WSU, UConn and Memphis.

The Ted Constant Center is 100% Chairback seating with 700 in a club level and 18 luxury suites completely encircling the arena (and we sell 'em), though with the seating arrangement there's not a bad seat in the place. If you're gong by size then no. If you're going by design, amenities and atmosphere there's only a few that can compete.

That 6,400 average represents a fanbase frustrated with not having reached the NCAA tournament in 7 years. So your doubt that we'll overtake those in front of us is just you uninformed opinion. We have and should be averaging well over 7K. Those are devoted season ticket buying, donation making fans. Not a few thousand students that noticed your team was ranked and will leave again just as easy.


I don't mind you saying ODU is not good enough for the AAC but don't be stupid about it. The fact that we have a larger and more devoted fanbase in basketball than most in your conference is not an opinion.

I know it's a crazy thing where you have to actually read the responses, but you should try it.

Which of these 8 arenas is ODU better than?

NBA arenas:
Memphis (FedEx Forum)

Recently Remodeled:
Cincy (5/3 Arena)
Houston (Feritia Center)
Smu (Moody Coliseum)
Wichita (Kock Arena)

Oldies but goodies built/updated in roughly the same time as yours (5 years):
Temple (Liacoursa Center)
USF (Yuengling Center)
Tulsa (Reynolds Center)

Again that's just to be in the contention for top 2/3rds.

Also nothing like talking trash about current average attendance. Come back and March, you'll be ninth or tenth at that in this conference too.

Easily the ones bolded. And we could debate the rest except probably the Fed Ex center which Memphis doesn't own. Like I said, depends how you want to prioritize. If you want a big arena we're not it. If you don't want to have a hard seat to sit on, nice concourse, and great viewing angles then you'll appreciate our arena. Did you even bother looking up our arena?


And I'll be back in March

(02-04-2019 04:51 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 04:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 03:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 01:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 12:07 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Get your list of oversized gyms with empty disjointed bleacher looking seats and no luxury boxes the hell out of here. The Ted would easily be top half. And our basketball attendance would be as well.

Pfft.

Ummm, sorry, no. All those ones I listed have those things. The Reynolds Center has some bench seating for the students section and the immediate surrounding area. As mentioned Memphis is NBA level, Houston and Cincinnati brand new and redone with all the fixings. Yuengling and Liacouras Center both have some nice amenities and plenty of chair back and a nice look to them. Koch was just redone like three or four years ago and is a beautiful facility. SMU was redone at about the same time as Koch, comes with all of that and often a former President. Throw in the Tulsa, UCF, and UConn's gyms and you might get to ten with a hard reach. The Tulane gym is a box, but it's a really nice box, so maybe not. I foresee Minges getting redone soon if Dooley brings a competitive program and builds momentum in a basketball crazed state.

You do average right at 6,400. Which is good enough for fourth in the AAC. With three programs near 6,000 though it's unlikely you will remain that high. SMU always does well and the other two are top four teams in Temple and Houston. By percentage of capacity you would get in at 7th and I doubt you will overtake those in front of you, which include the three mentioned at near 6,000 along with Cincy, WSU, UConn and Memphis.

The Ted Constant Center is 100% Chairback seating with 700 in a club level and 18 luxury suites completely encircling the arena (and we sell 'em), though with the seating arrangement there's not a bad seat in the place. If you're gong by size then no. If you're going by design, amenities and atmosphere there's only a few that can compete.

That 6,400 average represents a fanbase frustrated with not having reached the NCAA tournament in 7 years. So your doubt that we'll overtake those in front of us is just you uninformed opinion. We have and should be averaging well over 7K. Those are devoted season ticket buying, donation making fans. Not a few thousand students that noticed your team was ranked and will leave again just as easy.


I don't mind you saying ODU is not good enough for the AAC but don't be stupid about it. The fact that we have a larger and more devoted fanbase in basketball than most in your conference is not an opinion.

I know it's a crazy thing where you have to actually read the responses, but you should try it.

Which of these 8 arenas is ODU better than?

NBA arenas:
Memphis (FedEx Forum)

Recently Remodeled:
Cincy (5/3 Arena)
Houston (Feritia Center)
Smu (Moody Coliseum)
Wichita (Kock Arena)

Oldies but goodies built/updated in roughly the same time as yours (5 years):
Temple (Liacoursa Center)
USF (Yuengling Center)
Tulsa (Reynolds Center)

Again that's just to be in the contention for top 2/3rds.

Also nothing like talking trash about current average attendance. Come back and March, you'll be ninth or tenth at that in this conference too.

Easily the ones bolded. And we could debate the rest except probably the Fed Ex center which Memphis doesn't own. Like I said, depends how you want to prioritize. If you want a big arena we're not it. If you don't want to have a hard seat to sit on, nice concourse, and great viewing angles then you'll appreciate our arena. Did you even bother looking up our arena?


And I'll be back in March

I've been to the Ted (last season in fact) and no way is it better than Moody