(08-21-2018 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You guys can crack all the jokes you want and continue to bury your head in the sand, but until you acknowledge the problems, your comments about Hillary making ANY money are vapid at best.
And if you're wanting to criticize any source I provide...there are dozens more of them BTW. At least have the decency to respond with what they actually got wrong, lest you look even more ridiculous.
The Art of the (Self) Deal: Political and Taxpayer Spending at Trump’s Properties

Are the amounts being spent out of line with what the costs would be at similar facilities elsewhere? I don't know, I'm asking as a serious--not rhetorical--question.

My guess is that they are not, or else we'd have seen more made of that point. And the point where this raises my ire is the point at which the costs do become out of line.

(08-21-2018 02:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You guys can crack all the jokes you want and continue to bury your head in the sand, but until you acknowledge the problems, your comments about Hillary making ANY money are vapid at best.
And if you're wanting to criticize any source I provide...there are dozens more of them BTW. At least have the decency to respond with what they actually got wrong, lest you look even more ridiculous.
The Art of the (Self) Deal: Political and Taxpayer Spending at Trump’s Properties

Are the amounts being spent out of line with what the costs would be at similar facilities elsewhere? I don't know, I'm asking as a serious--not rhetorical--question.

My guess is that they are not, or else we'd have seen more made of that point. And the point where this raises my ire is the point at which the costs do become out of line.

Wait a minute.......did he actually post an article from Public Citizen?

(08-21-2018 02:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You guys can crack all the jokes you want and continue to bury your head in the sand, but until you acknowledge the problems, your comments about Hillary making ANY money are vapid at best.
And if you're wanting to criticize any source I provide...there are dozens more of them BTW. At least have the decency to respond with what they actually got wrong, lest you look even more ridiculous.
The Art of the (Self) Deal: Political and Taxpayer Spending at Trump’s Properties

Are the amounts being spent out of line with what the costs would be at similar facilities elsewhere? I don't know, I'm asking as a serious--not rhetorical--question.

My guess is that they are not, or else we'd have seen more made of that point. And the point where this raises my ire is the point at which the costs do become out of line.

So only the cost is an issue to you? It doesn't matter that he stays almost exclusively at his own properties so all that cost goes directly back to him...that's of no issue to you, really? Foreign heads of states staying at his property in DC is not an issue to you?

(08-21-2018 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 02:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You guys can crack all the jokes you want and continue to bury your head in the sand, but until you acknowledge the problems, your comments about Hillary making ANY money are vapid at best.
And if you're wanting to criticize any source I provide...there are dozens more of them BTW. At least have the decency to respond with what they actually got wrong, lest you look even more ridiculous.
The Art of the (Self) Deal: Political and Taxpayer Spending at Trump’s Properties

Are the amounts being spent out of line with what the costs would be at similar facilities elsewhere? I don't know, I'm asking as a serious--not rhetorical--question.
My guess is that they are not, or else we'd have seen more made of that point. And the point where this raises my ire is the point at which the costs do become out of line.

So only the cost is an issue to you? It doesn't matter that he stays almost exclusively at his own properties so all that cost goes directly back to him...that's of no issue to you, really? Foreign heads of states staying at his property in DC is not an issue to you?

As long as the transactions are conducted on an arms-length basis, no.

(08-21-2018 04:33 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 02:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You guys can crack all the jokes you want and continue to bury your head in the sand, but until you acknowledge the problems, your comments about Hillary making ANY money are vapid at best.
And if you're wanting to criticize any source I provide...there are dozens more of them BTW. At least have the decency to respond with what they actually got wrong, lest you look even more ridiculous.
The Art of the (Self) Deal: Political and Taxpayer Spending at Trump’s Properties

Are the amounts being spent out of line with what the costs would be at similar facilities elsewhere? I don't know, I'm asking as a serious--not rhetorical--question.
My guess is that they are not, or else we'd have seen more made of that point. And the point where this raises my ire is the point at which the costs do become out of line.

So only the cost is an issue to you? It doesn't matter that he stays almost exclusively at his own properties so all that cost goes directly back to him...that's of no issue to you, really? Foreign heads of states staying at his property in DC is not an issue to you?

As long as the transactions are conducted on an arms-length basis, no.

I agree. Some folks hate runs deep.

(08-21-2018 10:57 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Solve this riddle...

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