Houston is the best /thread

(07-21-2018 10:27 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Lol their is difference of being tougher on that night vs the overall tough team. That is Cronin and UC’s identity. And has been for years.


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it has been sampson's for longer....

this is the definition of this board defensiveness...they know nothing about everyone else, but they know about themselves
but becuase they know about themselves they are willing to make projection how they fit in with everyone else. without knowing anything about someone else...

"im definitely better than this team, becuase i think we are good, even though i couldnt name a player on that team"

here is an article from before cronin was a head coach, with samspon talking about how the best team doesn't always win, it is usually the tougher team that wins and he build his teams to be tougher
http://hoopthoughts.blogspot.com/2013/02...sophy.html

im not sure how familiar you are with sampson but he was doing the cronin before cronin ever coached, his teams at Oklahoma were defensive juggernauts with subpar offense. his entire reputation was built around hard-nosed defense

samspon himself says he didnt start focusing on offense till he got to the nba and learned under mike dantoni w/ harden...and wanting to implement high paced offense at houston because kids want to play in that

(07-21-2018 10:48 AM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote:  Houston is the best /thread

if you are going to jump in, atleast know what we are talking about.... literally no one is debating that!!!!

(07-21-2018 10:45 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(07-20-2018 08:44 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-20-2018 07:58 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  He is absolutely not referencing foul Trouble.

Dude, he is referencing Houston using fouling as a strategy. They were gonna foul every play and make the refs call it or make it really tough on UC.


Stop

justin stop..i hate your mental gymanstics..... be rational for once in your life

if he was talking about the strategy he would have talked about strategy....in the full quote he then mentions rebounding, dving for loose balls....anyone not blind would see he was talking about not giving up on any play and willing to put everything on the line

the full quotes with any non blind homer makes that very clear, that houston plays like they are hungry and desperate to win, that he saw the same in the Wichita game....that uc lacked the toughness in a "backyard brawl" & that cost them (his words not mine)...that statement wasnt an indictment on a houston "fouling strategy" (that you made up) but he was praising houston for their effort/ desire to win

if he was talking about fouling strategy, he would have mentioned how it was affecting your guys. he doesnt mention anything about that... his whole point that whole post game conference was that houston was hungry and play like it..and that you have to play with that kind of similar toughness if you want to beat them, if they arent in foul trouble.

you made up some BS theory about a "fouling strategy" and now putting that ridiculous thought into your coaches mouth, even though he said no such thing..

stop it

Being as I listen to every radio interview, every press conference and everything Cronin has to say, I know his context.

And he elaborated on this even more on the radio only interview that I listened to. He said Houston had 15 fouls to give from their bigs and they intended on using every single one of them. That’s fouling as a strategy.

In 3 games Houston committed 67 fouls and UC committed just 44 fouls.

UC won the rebounding war 99-97.. and won the war in both games in which they won. That’s a toughness factor. UC offensive rebounded a higher percentage of its misses its 2 out of 3 games.

Toughness didn’t get Houston up 18 against UC. Making shots did. They hit a lot of 3’s that extended the lead, UC was never punked in that game and ended up winning ever meaningful stat.

Houston isn’t the toughest team in the country. Not even the toughest in their league.

Did they try to play bully ball (sometimes to their detriment ) and rack up a bunch of fouls ? Sure.




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--after wichita played houston (Wichita players and marshall): houston was the more physical and tougher team, we have to get tougher

--after wichita lost to cincy: we should have won but it was a game between 2 equally tough teams (marshall in presser)

--after cincy played houston(cronin): houston was the tougher team

--game announcer at every houston game : houston is one of the toughest teams in america

maybe all of this was by coincidence and not by design
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/20...on-cougars
"at practice, the {Houston} coaching staff sported T-shirts that read “Toughest Team Wins.” "
"Samspon said " it’s about culture, it’s about getting kids to play the right way, and establishing toughness" "
"Coach just wants us to play hard and give maximum effort and 40 minutes of toughness."

it's probably just coincidence that everyone is noticing what houston has been working on every practice... you're right

lets not debate this anymore, we know how you feel about cincy...

(07-21-2018 11:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-21-2018 10:27 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Lol their is difference of being tougher on that night vs the overall tough team. That is Cronin and UC’s identity. And has been for years.


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it has been sampson's for longer....

this is the definition of this board defensiveness...they know nothing about everyone else, but they know about themselves
but becuase they know about themselves they are willing to make projection how they fit in with everyone else. without knowing anything about someone else...

"im definitely better than this team, becuase i think we are good, even though i couldnt name a player on that team"

here is an article from before cronin was a head coach, with samspon talking about how the best team doesn't always win, it is usually the tougher team that wins and he build his teams to be tougher
http://hoopthoughts.blogspot.com/2013/02...sophy.html

im not sure how familiar you are with sampson but he was doing the cronin before cronin ever coached, his teams at Oklahoma were defensive juggernauts with subpar offense. his entire reputation was built around hard-nosed defense

samspon himself says he didnt start focusing on offense till he got to the nba and learned under mike dantoni w/ harden...and wanting to implement high paced offense at houston because kids want to play in that

i'm actually quite surprised at how much houston progressed last year. i was nervous about playing y'all for the first time ever. no idea how you let us beat you in the championship game. you had all the momentum in the world and we couldn't score the ball the whole tournament. we barely beat two depleted teams and y'all decide you were gonna match us in our ineptness. i felt bad for gray throwing that damn ball away. you never want to see someone lose like that. but lucky for us cuz i felt something stupid was about to happen. your man destined for a good look. i think mick thought rob was gonna take the final shot. i sure as hell thought so and when he passed it, i was, ****. and he threw it away! i've never felt so sad to win a game. still take it though. and then they f*ck it up against the national runner ups. sucks man

good luck next year

(07-21-2018 12:06 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-21-2018 10:45 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(07-20-2018 08:44 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-20-2018 07:58 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  He is absolutely not referencing foul Trouble.

Dude, he is referencing Houston using fouling as a strategy. They were gonna foul every play and make the refs call it or make it really tough on UC.


Stop

justin stop..i hate your mental gymanstics..... be rational for once in your life

if he was talking about the strategy he would have talked about strategy....in the full quote he then mentions rebounding, dving for loose balls....anyone not blind would see he was talking about not giving up on any play and willing to put everything on the line

the full quotes with any non blind homer makes that very clear, that houston plays like they are hungry and desperate to win, that he saw the same in the Wichita game....that uc lacked the toughness in a "backyard brawl" & that cost them (his words not mine)...that statement wasnt an indictment on a houston "fouling strategy" (that you made up) but he was praising houston for their effort/ desire to win

if he was talking about fouling strategy, he would have mentioned how it was affecting your guys. he doesnt mention anything about that... his whole point that whole post game conference was that houston was hungry and play like it..and that you have to play with that kind of similar toughness if you want to beat them, if they arent in foul trouble.

you made up some BS theory about a "fouling strategy" and now putting that ridiculous thought into your coaches mouth, even though he said no such thing..

stop it

Being as I listen to every radio interview, every press conference and everything Cronin has to say, I know his context.

And he elaborated on this even more on the radio only interview that I listened to. He said Houston had 15 fouls to give from their bigs and they intended on using every single one of them. That’s fouling as a strategy.

In 3 games Houston committed 67 fouls and UC committed just 44 fouls.

UC won the rebounding war 99-97.. and won the war in both games in which they won. That’s a toughness factor. UC offensive rebounded a higher percentage of its misses its 2 out of 3 games.

Toughness didn’t get Houston up 18 against UC. Making shots did. They hit a lot of 3’s that extended the lead, UC was never punked in that game and ended up winning ever meaningful stat.

Houston isn’t the toughest team in the country. Not even the toughest in their league.

Did they try to play bully ball (sometimes to their detriment ) and rack up a bunch of fouls ? Sure.




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--after wichita played houston (Wichita players and marshall): houston was the more physical and tougher team, we have to get tougher

--after wichita lost to cincy: we should have won but it was a game between 2 equally tough teams (marshall in presser)

--after cincy played houston(cronin): houston was the tougher team

--game announcer at every houston game : houston is one of the toughest teams in america

maybe all of this was by coincidence and not by design
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/20...on-cougars
"at practice, the {Houston} coaching staff sported T-shirts that read “Toughest Team Wins.” "
"Samspon said " it’s about culture, it’s about getting kids to play the right way, and establishing toughness" "
"Coach just wants us to play hard and give maximum effort and 40 minutes of toughness."

it's probably just coincidence that everyone is noticing what houston has been working on every practice... you're right

lets not debate this anymore, we know how you feel about cincy...

Lol

You can be the tougher team in that single game.

And not be the tougher team.


Love I also love it that you take every thing a coach says to the media as fact. It’s great.

I love that you are pulling quotes from the single time Houston beat UC. A game where UC probably was the softest it was all season long.

Was Houston the tougher team when UC beat them twice ? Hmm


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(07-21-2018 12:55 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(07-21-2018 12:06 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-21-2018 10:45 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(07-20-2018 08:44 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-20-2018 07:58 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  He is absolutely not referencing foul Trouble.

Dude, he is referencing Houston using fouling as a strategy. They were gonna foul every play and make the refs call it or make it really tough on UC.


Stop

justin stop..i hate your mental gymanstics..... be rational for once in your life

if he was talking about the strategy he would have talked about strategy....in the full quote he then mentions rebounding, dving for loose balls....anyone not blind would see he was talking about not giving up on any play and willing to put everything on the line

the full quotes with any non blind homer makes that very clear, that houston plays like they are hungry and desperate to win, that he saw the same in the Wichita game....that uc lacked the toughness in a "backyard brawl" & that cost them (his words not mine)...that statement wasnt an indictment on a houston "fouling strategy" (that you made up) but he was praising houston for their effort/ desire to win

if he was talking about fouling strategy, he would have mentioned how it was affecting your guys. he doesnt mention anything about that... his whole point that whole post game conference was that houston was hungry and play like it..and that you have to play with that kind of similar toughness if you want to beat them, if they arent in foul trouble.

you made up some BS theory about a "fouling strategy" and now putting that ridiculous thought into your coaches mouth, even though he said no such thing..

stop it

Being as I listen to every radio interview, every press conference and everything Cronin has to say, I know his context.

And he elaborated on this even more on the radio only interview that I listened to. He said Houston had 15 fouls to give from their bigs and they intended on using every single one of them. That’s fouling as a strategy.

In 3 games Houston committed 67 fouls and UC committed just 44 fouls.

UC won the rebounding war 99-97.. and won the war in both games in which they won. That’s a toughness factor. UC offensive rebounded a higher percentage of its misses its 2 out of 3 games.

Toughness didn’t get Houston up 18 against UC. Making shots did. They hit a lot of 3’s that extended the lead, UC was never punked in that game and ended up winning ever meaningful stat.

Houston isn’t the toughest team in the country. Not even the toughest in their league.

Did they try to play bully ball (sometimes to their detriment ) and rack up a bunch of fouls ? Sure.




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--after wichita played houston (Wichita players and marshall): houston was the more physical and tougher team, we have to get tougher

--after wichita lost to cincy: we should have won but it was a game between 2 equally tough teams (marshall in presser)

--after cincy played houston(cronin): houston was the tougher team

--game announcer at every houston game : houston is one of the toughest teams in america

maybe all of this was by coincidence and not by design
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/20...on-cougars
"at practice, the {Houston} coaching staff sported T-shirts that read “Toughest Team Wins.” "
"Samspon said " it’s about culture, it’s about getting kids to play the right way, and establishing toughness" "
"Coach just wants us to play hard and give maximum effort and 40 minutes of toughness."

it's probably just coincidence that everyone is noticing what houston has been working on every practice... you're right

lets not debate this anymore, we know how you feel about cincy...

Lol

You can be the tougher team in that single game.

And not be the tougher team.


Love I also love it that you take every thing a coach says to the media as fact. It’s great.

I love that you are pulling quotes from the single time Houston beat UC. A game where UC probably was the softest it was all season long.

Was Houston the tougher team when UC beat them twice ? Hmm


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foul trouble in the first game....already discussed that. cant play physical if you are worried about fouling out..

and i definitely think houston was the tougher team in the Conference championship game...we just couldnt buy a shot...
rob and armoni went 2-13 from 3 a lot of them flat open, they just werent on..and corey went flat cold in the second

no matter how tough you are you will have good and bad shooting days, it wasnt our day or game...despite all of that we still only lost by 1..rewatch the last 2 minutes of the game.. (its on youtube).. the announcers were praising houston toughness but questioning their shoot selection...houston gave themselves numerous chances to win it, including corey 6'1 bodying 6'4 jacob evans (likely 30lbs difference), when evans tried to post him up.. & 6'1 galen out-rebounding your 6'9 kyle Washington (despite wasghinton having a better position) when the game was on the line...that was followed by rob taking a contested basically half court 3 and missing, then the bad pass turnover

uc didnt score a FG the last 6 minutes, besides the Washington 3, which was set up by cumberland tripping on his own feet (tripping corey with him out of the way), zanna runs to cover the fallen Cumberland (who somehow maintained dribble), leaving Washington open.. that's what decided the game, 1 shot especially like that doesnt define who was tougher

im honestly not mad at that game, i dont think we beat sdsu if that game didnt end like that (sampson said post game that rob was supposed to drive, no clue why he shot a 3)....sdsu and uc basically ended the same way, but rob made sure to drive in that game, im certain he didnt want to make that uc mistake twice ....

(07-21-2018 12:55 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(07-21-2018 11:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-21-2018 10:27 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Lol their is difference of being tougher on that night vs the overall tough team. That is Cronin and UC’s identity. And has been for years.


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it has been sampson's for longer....

this is the definition of this board defensiveness...they know nothing about everyone else, but they know about themselves
but becuase they know about themselves they are willing to make projection how they fit in with everyone else. without knowing anything about someone else...

"im definitely better than this team, becuase i think we are good, even though i couldnt name a player on that team"

here is an article from before cronin was a head coach, with samspon talking about how the best team doesn't always win, it is usually the tougher team that wins and he build his teams to be tougher
http://hoopthoughts.blogspot.com/2013/02...sophy.html

im not sure how familiar you are with sampson but he was doing the cronin before cronin ever coached, his teams at Oklahoma were defensive juggernauts with subpar offense. his entire reputation was built around hard-nosed defense

samspon himself says he didnt start focusing on offense till he got to the nba and learned under mike dantoni w/ harden...and wanting to implement high paced offense at houston because kids want to play in that

i'm actually quite surprised at how much houston progressed last year. i was nervous about playing y'all for the first time ever. no idea how you let us beat you in the championship game. you had all the momentum in the world and we couldn't score the ball the whole tournament. we barely beat two depleted teams and y'all decide you were gonna match us in our ineptness. i felt bad for gray throwing that damn ball away. you never want to see someone lose like that. but lucky for us cuz i felt something stupid was about to happen. your man destined for a good look. i think mick thought rob was gonna take the final shot. i sure as hell thought so and when he passed it, i was, ****. and he threw it away! i've never felt so sad to win a game. still take it though. and then they f*ck it up against the national runner ups. sucks man

good luck next year

i dont think we let you beat us....samspon said he wouldnt have changed much in the game if he re-do everything, if he could put Washington on the 3 to decide the game, a few feet behind the 3 point line. he would do it..statiscally that should have been in our favor.. but washington made the big shot

and rob making the bad pass wasn't the big mistake in the game...it was the play before, sampon post game didnt care abot the pass, but that they had designed a drive the play before to score and end the game or go to overtime....rob took a 3 win 5 seconds to go instead....Sampson felt that was the deciding factor

(07-21-2018 10:45 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  UC won the rebounding war 99-97.. and won the war in both games in which they won. That’s a toughness factor

i just realized you are missing very valuable context here

uc starting lineup-
5'10 or 6'0 (depending on the game)
6'4
6'5
6'8
6'9

houston starting line up
6'0
6'0
6'1
6'6
6'8 (only plays 12 minis a game), back up is 6'6

houston was bottom 30 shortest teams in all of college basketball #318 (with its only 2 players over 6'7 getting very tiny minutes) but was top 10 nationally in rebounding..
saying you out rebounded us at 99-97 isnt a sign you were tougher, when you look at the size comparison...

houston had a +31 rebounding margin on temple, a few shy of the ncaa record (aac record tho), temple was top 20 tallest teams in college basketball

Dude 6 out of 10 posts on page 3 are yours, you gotta just let it go at some point