Florida A&M is in the shadows of Florida State in the same town. It would not work out right. Any HBCUs that move up would have to be in towns that there are no FBS teams in like alabama State, Jackson State, Bethune-cookman, NC A&T, Hampton U. and so forth.

If you're anywhere in Alabama, you're in Alabama's city and if not, Auburn is still palatable.

The other side effect for most SWAC locations and a few MEAC locations is most of those states are poorer than the national average. I could see Hampton in FBS some day but not many, if any, of the rest.

(07-13-2018 01:54 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Still think Florida A&M to FBS could’ve worked if they rode it out.

Sun Belt was very interested in FAMU... until they opened their books and just like that the interest was gone. Similar to what happened with Eastern Kentucky.

(07-14-2018 10:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 01:54 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Still think Florida A&M to FBS could’ve worked if they rode it out.

Sun Belt was very interested in FAMU... until they opened their books and just like that the interest was gone. Similar to what happened with Eastern Kentucky.

I wonder if the SBC still want Chattanooga? Seems they might be able to make the move now. When they were asked the first time, they did not have the money to go.

I think schools like Bethune-Cookman, Southern U. and Tennessee State seemed to be able to compete against FBS schools. FLorida A&M do show up times. I also think North Carolina A&T might be able to make a jump to FBS as well.

Alabama State on the other hand have an FBS size stadium. Why have a stadium that size to be at FCS?
Jackson State on the other hand needs a new zip code to get away from SWAC. They are the only team that is smack dab in the SBC where SBC do not have a presence in.

Here is what I think.

Florida A&M to the A-Sun
Tuskegee to the A-Sun
Alabama State to the A-Sun
Bethune-Cookman to the A-Sun
Jackson State to the southland
Southern to the Southland
Texas Southern to the A-Sun
Prairie View to the Southland'
North Carolina Central to the Big South
North carolina A&T to the Big South
I could see Bowie State and Virginia State move up to the Big South.
Albany State to the A-Sun

Alabama A&M drop to D2
South carolina State D2
Howard D2
Norfolk State D2
Coppin State to Big South
Maryland-ES drop to D2.
UAPB drops to D2 GAC conference and Tech replaces them in D1.
Delaware State drops to D2
Morgan State D2
Grambling State D2
Alcorn State D2
Mississippi Valley State D2


Too bad Edddie robinson is not with us anymore. Grambling state was the school to be feared of. Won more games in D1 than joe Pa and Booby Bowden.

(07-15-2018 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 10:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 01:54 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Still think Florida A&M to FBS could’ve worked if they rode it out.

Sun Belt was very interested in FAMU... until they opened their books and just like that the interest was gone. Similar to what happened with Eastern Kentucky.

I wonder if the SBC still want Chattanooga? Seems they might be able to make the move now. When they were asked the first time, they did not have the money to go.
SNIPPED silliness

Chattanooga contacted Sun Belt in 2004 seeking to join and were given a no thanks when they said they weren't looking to go FBS.

The Sun Belt contacted them the last go round to see if that had changed.

Wanting a school and assessing whether they should be considered simply are not the same thing.

Chattanooga at this time isn't financially sound enough that they would get an invite unless the league were in survival mode.

(07-15-2018 10:30 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-15-2018 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 10:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 01:54 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Still think Florida A&M to FBS could’ve worked if they rode it out.

Sun Belt was very interested in FAMU... until they opened their books and just like that the interest was gone. Similar to what happened with Eastern Kentucky.

I wonder if the SBC still want Chattanooga? Seems they might be able to make the move now. When they were asked the first time, they did not have the money to go.
SNIPPED silliness

Chattanooga contacted Sun Belt in 2004 seeking to join and were given a no thanks when they said they weren't looking to go FBS.

The Sun Belt contacted them the last go round to see if that had changed.

Wanting a school and assessing whether they should be considered simply are not the same thing.

Chattanooga at this time isn't financially sound enough that they would get an invite unless the league were in survival mode.

Sun Belt contacted Indiana State with their D2 FB stadium, OVC budget, and remote market whose claim to fame is a penitentiary. Sun Belt was contacting anyone with a pulse.

(07-15-2018 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 10:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 01:54 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Still think Florida A&M to FBS could’ve worked if they rode it out.

Sun Belt was very interested in FAMU... until they opened their books and just like that the interest was gone. Similar to what happened with Eastern Kentucky.

I wonder if the SBC still want Chattanooga? Seems they might be able to make the move now. When they were asked the first time, they did not have the money to go.

I think schools like Bethune-Cookman, Southern U. and Tennessee State seemed to be able to compete against FBS schools. FLorida A&M do show up times. I also think North Carolina A&T might be able to make a jump to FBS as well.

Alabama State on the other hand have an FBS size stadium. Why have a stadium that size to be at FCS?
Jackson State on the other hand needs a new zip code to get away from SWAC. They are the only team that is smack dab in the SBC where SBC do not have a presence in.

Here is what I think.

Florida A&M to the A-Sun
Tuskegee to the A-Sun
Alabama State to the A-Sun
Bethune-Cookman to the A-Sun
Jackson State to the southland
Southern to the Southland
Texas Southern to the A-Sun
Prairie View to the Southland'
North Carolina Central to the Big South
North carolina A&T to the Big South
I could see Bowie State and Virginia State move up to the Big South.
Albany State to the A-Sun

Alabama A&M drop to D2
South carolina State D2
Howard D2
Norfolk State D2
Coppin State to Big South
Maryland-ES drop to D2.
UAPB drops to D2 GAC conference and Tech replaces them in D1.
Delaware State drops to D2
Morgan State D2
Grambling State D2
Alcorn State D2
Mississippi Valley State D2


Too bad Edddie robinson is not with us anymore. Grambling state was the school to be feared of. Won more games in D1 than joe Pa and Booby Bowden.

Edit: Yikes!!! Just took a look at AAMU's financials, and DavidSt was right!! They do need to go to D2!!! Only a little over $3 million in revenue, but spent a little over $10 million. Texas Southern to the A-SUN makes no sense though. I would send them to the Southland since you are disbanding the SWAC and MEAC.
Not sure on Prairie View.
Disagree on Howard because they are looking to possibly join Hampton. A lot of the rest them I actually agree with you on,but I'm not sure on Grambling and Alcorn though.

(07-16-2018 02:09 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(07-15-2018 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 10:31 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 01:54 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Still think Florida A&M to FBS could’ve worked if they rode it out.

Sun Belt was very interested in FAMU... until they opened their books and just like that the interest was gone. Similar to what happened with Eastern Kentucky.

I wonder if the SBC still want Chattanooga? Seems they might be able to make the move now. When they were asked the first time, they did not have the money to go.

I think schools like Bethune-Cookman, Southern U. and Tennessee State seemed to be able to compete against FBS schools. FLorida A&M do show up times. I also think North Carolina A&T might be able to make a jump to FBS as well.

Alabama State on the other hand have an FBS size stadium. Why have a stadium that size to be at FCS?
Jackson State on the other hand needs a new zip code to get away from SWAC. They are the only team that is smack dab in the SBC where SBC do not have a presence in.

Here is what I think.

Florida A&M to the A-Sun
Tuskegee to the A-Sun
Alabama State to the A-Sun
Bethune-Cookman to the A-Sun
Jackson State to the southland
Southern to the Southland
Texas Southern to the A-Sun
Prairie View to the Southland'
North Carolina Central to the Big South
North carolina A&T to the Big South
I could see Bowie State and Virginia State move up to the Big South.
Albany State to the A-Sun

Alabama A&M drop to D2
South carolina State D2
Howard D2
Norfolk State D2
Coppin State to Big South
Maryland-ES drop to D2.
UAPB drops to D2 GAC conference and Tech replaces them in D1.
Delaware State drops to D2
Morgan State D2
Grambling State D2
Alcorn State D2
Mississippi Valley State D2


Too bad Edddie robinson is not with us anymore. Grambling state was the school to be feared of. Won more games in D1 than joe Pa and Booby Bowden.

Edit: Yikes!!! Just took a look at AAMU's financials, and DavidSt was right!! They do need to go to D2!!! Only a little over $3 million in revenue, but spent a little over $10 million. Texas Southern to the A-SUN makes no sense though. I would send them to the Southland since you are disbanding the SWAC and MEAC.
Not sure on Prairie View.
Disagree on Howard because they are looking to possibly join Hampton. A lot of the rest them I actually agree with you on,but I'm not sure on Grambling and Alcorn though.

Yeah, I meant Texas Southern to the Southland.

As for southland? They could split in the future. The east could reformed a former D1 conference on the gulf coast area.

New Orleans
Nicholls State
Southern U.
SE Louisiana
McNeese State (could leave for FBS)
nW La. State
UCA
Jackson State
Arkansas Tech
Christian Brothers
Delta State
Missouri Southern or Missouri S&T
12/14

Southland Texas:
Texas A&M-C.C.
Lamar (could leave for FBS)
Sam Houston State (FBS)
SFA (FBS)
Abilene Christian
Houston Baptist
Incarnate Word
UTRGV
Tarleton State
Angelo State
Central Oklahoma
Cameron
Commerce
Angelo State

This way, it could ease the congestion at the Lone Star Conference at D2. UT-Dallas, East Texas Baptist and some other Texas schools could move up to D2 in the future. With LSC merged the Heartland non-football schools? The geography would work out for them. Too bad MacMurry in Texas quit in the middle of upgrading to D2, or they would find some savings in the future.

Grambling players went on strike because their facilities were falling apart.

Grambling Football players ended their Boucott

^ And then Grambling rebounded BIG TIME after that. Went from losing 18 of 19 to running the SWAC table back-to-back-to-back years a couple seasons later. Actually surprised no one ever made a movie about it.

(07-16-2018 03:27 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  ^ And then Grambling rebounded BIG TIME after that. Went from losing 18 of 19 to running the SWAC table back-to-back-to-back years a couple seasons later. Actually surprised no one ever made a movie about it.

Maybe a 30 for 30 will be made in the near future