(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
I agree with you. Edsall is likely too low. Here is the author's explanation:
Randy Edsall: It feels easy to forget that Edsall once took UConn to the Fiesta Bowl. Even though it was eight years ago, that still counts for something, right? Maybe a shred of hope of what the Huskies could be again some day? For now, though, Edsall is in full rebuilding mode and his last head coaching gig at Maryland was a disappointment.
Thanks. Just wanted to point out that there's a whole lot of non-accomplished ahead of Randy on the list.
They seem to be penalizing him for UConn's present situation, rather than for his lack of coaching ability.
(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
I agree with you. Edsall is likely too low. Here is the author's explanation:
Randy Edsall: It feels easy to forget that Edsall once took UConn to the Fiesta Bowl. Even though it was eight years ago, that still counts for something, right? Maybe a shred of hope of what the Huskies could be again some day? For now, though, Edsall is in full rebuilding mode and his last head coaching gig at Maryland was a disappointment.
(06-06-2018 09:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(06-06-2018 05:17 PM)HuskyU Wrote:
(06-06-2018 04:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
I agree with you. Edsall is likely too low. Here is the author's explanation:
Randy Edsall: It feels easy to forget that Edsall once took UConn to the Fiesta Bowl. Even though it was eight years ago, that still counts for something, right? Maybe a shred of hope of what the Huskies could be again some day? For now, though, Edsall is in full rebuilding mode and his last head coaching gig at Maryland was a disappointment.
Thanks. Just wanted to point out that there's a whole lot of non-accomplished ahead of Randy on the list.
They seem to be penalizing him for UConn's present situation, rather than for his lack of coaching ability.
Also its alot easier to recruit in the aac than the big ten. Im mean sure we still have big names. But its not like saying well even tho Michigan and Ohio state are pretty solid. How bout you come play football for Connecticut... thats one of the reasons why I think randy struggled at Maryland. He had to try to get kids to Play for Maryland. When Blue bloods were in that conference... In the big East he just had to compete with Wvu, pitt, cincy, cards, and others. While those guys were no joke. They're not the same as Michigan or Ohio State. He also had the sales pitch of building a program!!! Maryland was already an established football program when randy got there. So he couldn't preach the same thing. Expectations were also probably a lot higher there than at uconn.
(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
he didn't exactly earn the NY6 bowl by having an amazing season... uconn was 8-4 and won a 3 team tiebreaker in an extremely weak big east who had a bcs auto bid and then got shellacked by Oklahoma.
Not like Edsall went 12-0 and got a BCS bowl win.
Heres how I'd rank em:
1. NAVY - Ken Niumatalolo
2. MEMPHIS - Mike Norvell
3. TULANE - Willie Fritz
4. TEMPLE - Geoff Collins
5. UCF - Josh Heupel
6. SOUTH FLORIDA - Charlie Strong
7. SMU - Sonny Dykes
8. HOUSTON - Major Applewhite
9. CONNECTICUT - Randy Edsall
10. TULSA - Philip Montgomery
11. CINCINNATI - Luke Fickell
12. EAST CAROLINA - Scottie Montgomery
(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
he didn't exactly earn the NY6 bowl by having an amazing season... uconn was 8-4 and won a 3 team tiebreaker in an extremely weak big east who had a bcs auto bid and then got shellacked by Oklahoma.
Not like Edsall went 12-0 and got a BCS bowl win.
Heres how I'd rank em:
1. NAVY - Ken Niumatalolo
2. MEMPHIS - Mike Norvell
3. TULANE - Willie Fritz
4. TEMPLE - Geoff Collins
5. UCF - Josh Heupel
6. SOUTH FLORIDA - Charlie Strong
7. SMU - Sonny Dykes
8. HOUSTON - Major Applewhite
9. CONNECTICUT - Randy Edsall
10. TULSA - Philip Montgomery
11. CINCINNATI - Luke Fickell
12. EAST CAROLINA - Scottie Montgomery
So take out the BCS appearance that UCONN backed into. You still get...
Also, ranking someone 5th with no Head Coaching experience is pretty much the definition of homer-ism. Let's also point out that Heupel is currently coaching Frost's recruits the same way that Edsall is currently coaching Diaco's recruits. Even if Heupel is successful these next few seasons, we won't know whether it's his coaching greatness or whether he's another Ollie, who simply inherited a winning team.
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2018 01:48 PM by HuskyU.)
(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
he didn't exactly earn the NY6 bowl by having an amazing season... uconn was 8-4 and won a 3 team tiebreaker in an extremely weak big east who had a bcs auto bid and then got shellacked by Oklahoma.
Not like Edsall went 12-0 and got a BCS bowl win.
Heres how I'd rank em:
1. NAVY - Ken Niumatalolo
2. MEMPHIS - Mike Norvell
3. TULANE - Willie Fritz
4. TEMPLE - Geoff Collins
5. UCF - Josh Heupel
6. SOUTH FLORIDA - Charlie Strong
7. SMU - Sonny Dykes
8. HOUSTON - Major Applewhite
9. CONNECTICUT - Randy Edsall
10. TULSA - Philip Montgomery
11. CINCINNATI - Luke Fickell
12. EAST CAROLINA - Scottie Montgomery
So take out the BCS appearance that UCONN backed into. You still get...
Also, ranking someone 5th with no Head Coaching experience is pretty much the definition of homer-ism. Let's also point out that Heupel is currently coaching Frost's recruits the same way that Edsall is currently coaching Diaco's recruits. Even if Heupel is successful these next few seasons, we won't know whether it's his coaching greatness or whether he's another Ollie, who simply inherited a winning team.
I ranked heupel 5th based on him being an elite offensive coordinator for many years including OC of the year last year. Thats good enough to get him above many completely mediocre (or worse) coaches on this list including edsall who is well below .500 as a head coach. Only gripe an objective person could have with my list is me listing heupel above Strong, but I just don't think strong is a good game day coach at all.
It is conjecture ofcourse but what isn't conjecture is that Edsall hasn't done anything worth being much higher than 9th. Not a troll either, that Fiesta bowl was a nice accomplishment but if you peel back the layers a bit the 8-5 season was hardly worth mentioning in a ranking of top league coaches.
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2018 02:10 PM by Knights_of_UCF.)
(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
he didn't exactly earn the NY6 bowl by having an amazing season... uconn was 8-4 and won a 3 team tiebreaker in an extremely weak big east who had a bcs auto bid and then got shellacked by Oklahoma.
Not like Edsall went 12-0 and got a BCS bowl win.
Heres how I'd rank em:
1. NAVY - Ken Niumatalolo
2. MEMPHIS - Mike Norvell
3. TULANE - Willie Fritz
4. TEMPLE - Geoff Collins
5. UCF - Josh Heupel
6. SOUTH FLORIDA - Charlie Strong
7. SMU - Sonny Dykes
8. HOUSTON - Major Applewhite
9. CONNECTICUT - Randy Edsall
10. TULSA - Philip Montgomery
11. CINCINNATI - Luke Fickell
12. EAST CAROLINA - Scottie Montgomery
So take out the BCS appearance that UCONN backed into. You still get...
Also, ranking someone 5th with no Head Coaching experience is pretty much the definition of homer-ism. Let's also point out that Heupel is currently coaching Frost's recruits the same way that Edsall is currently coaching Diaco's recruits. Even if Heupel is successful these next few seasons, we won't know whether it's his coaching greatness or whether he's another Ollie, who simply inherited a winning team.
I ranked heupel 5th based on him being an elite offensive coordinator for many years including OC of the year last year. Thats good enough to get him above many completely mediocre (or worse) coaches on this list including edsall who is well below .500 as a head coach. Only gripe an objective person could have with my list is me listing heupel above Strong, but I just don't think strong is a good game day coach at all.
It is conjecture ofcourse but what isn't conjecture is that Edsall hasn't done anything worth being much higher than 9th. Not a troll either, that Fiesta bowl was a nice accomplishment but if you peel back the layers a bit the 8-5 season was hardly worth mentioning in a ranking of top league coaches.
LOL. Diaco won the Broyles Award. Obviously Coordinator Awards don't automatically translate to Head Coaching success.
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2018 02:21 PM by HuskyU.)
(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
he didn't exactly earn the NY6 bowl by having an amazing season... uconn was 8-4 and won a 3 team tiebreaker in an extremely weak big east who had a bcs auto bid and then got shellacked by Oklahoma.
Not like Edsall went 12-0 and got a BCS bowl win.
Heres how I'd rank em:
1. NAVY - Ken Niumatalolo
2. MEMPHIS - Mike Norvell
3. TULANE - Willie Fritz
4. TEMPLE - Geoff Collins
5. UCF - Josh Heupel
6. SOUTH FLORIDA - Charlie Strong
7. SMU - Sonny Dykes
8. HOUSTON - Major Applewhite
9. CONNECTICUT - Randy Edsall
10. TULSA - Philip Montgomery
11. CINCINNATI - Luke Fickell
12. EAST CAROLINA - Scottie Montgomery
So take out the BCS appearance that UCONN backed into. You still get...
Also, ranking someone 5th with no Head Coaching experience is pretty much the definition of homer-ism. Let's also point out that Heupel is currently coaching Frost's recruits the same way that Edsall is currently coaching Diaco's recruits. Even if Heupel is successful these next few seasons, we won't know whether it's his coaching greatness or whether he's another Ollie, who simply inherited a winning team.
i agree with
husky
We won 2 big east titles and made 5 bowls As a brand new FBS program. In a power conference. look at UMass during its first few years... He is isn't urban Myers. But he is better than you haters are give him credit for. Randy is gonna get us back to making bowls and competing for conference titles every once in a while. I just know it. He was in a much harder position during his first tenure here and we became one of the fastest growing programs in the country. he just needs to get his players and put his fluff on the program.
(06-06-2018 04:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
No way he is 9th on the list.
he didn't exactly earn the NY6 bowl by having an amazing season... uconn was 8-4 and won a 3 team tiebreaker in an extremely weak big east who had a bcs auto bid and then got shellacked by Oklahoma.
Not like Edsall went 12-0 and got a BCS bowl win.
Heres how I'd rank em:
1. NAVY - Ken Niumatalolo
2. MEMPHIS - Mike Norvell
3. TULANE - Willie Fritz
4. TEMPLE - Geoff Collins
5. UCF - Josh Heupel
6. SOUTH FLORIDA - Charlie Strong
7. SMU - Sonny Dykes
8. HOUSTON - Major Applewhite
9. CONNECTICUT - Randy Edsall
10. TULSA - Philip Montgomery
11. CINCINNATI - Luke Fickell
12. EAST CAROLINA - Scottie Montgomery
So take out the BCS appearance that UCONN backed into. You still get...
Also, ranking someone 5th with no Head Coaching experience is pretty much the definition of homer-ism. Let's also point out that Heupel is currently coaching Frost's recruits the same way that Edsall is currently coaching Diaco's recruits. Even if Heupel is successful these next few seasons, we won't know whether it's his coaching greatness or whether he's another Ollie, who simply inherited a winning team.
I ranked heupel 5th based on him being an elite offensive coordinator for many years including OC of the year last year. Thats good enough to get him above many completely mediocre (or worse) coaches on this list including edsall who is well below .500 as a head coach. Only gripe an objective person could have with my list is me listing heupel above Strong, but I just don't think strong is a good game day coach at all.
It is conjecture ofcourse but what isn't conjecture is that Edsall hasn't done anything worth being much higher than 9th. Not a troll either, that Fiesta bowl was a nice accomplishment but if you peel back the layers a bit the 8-5 season was hardly worth mentioning in a ranking of top league coaches.
I'm torn here, in part because I think it's a bit silly to be anointing a guy who was fired as the OC at Oklahoma a little over 3 years ago:
and has no experience as a head coach as somehow better than more than half of the league is jumping the gun. But I also don't disagree with your assessment of Strong.
(06-07-2018 03:36 PM)usffan Wrote: Everybody going to just ignore Edsall's 22-34 record at Maryland?
USFFan
Do you realize how hard it is to win at a place like Maryland? They're swimming up a waterfall - they're only really above Rutgers in that division.
Does that also excuse him having a losing record for the 3 years they were in the ACC, too? Especially since he inherited a team that went 9-4 the year before he arrived?
(06-07-2018 03:36 PM)usffan Wrote: Everybody going to just ignore Edsall's 22-34 record at Maryland?
USFFan
Do you realize how hard it is to win at a place like Maryland? They're swimming up a waterfall - they're only really above Rutgers in that division.
Does that also excuse him having a losing record for the 3 years they were in the ACC, too? Especially since he inherited a team that went 9-4 the year before he arrived?
USFFan
edsall had i a ton of injury issues during his time at maryland. He was down to his 4th string qb during 2012....
(06-07-2018 03:36 PM)usffan Wrote: Everybody going to just ignore Edsall's 22-34 record at Maryland?
USFFan
Do you realize how hard it is to win at a place like Maryland? They're swimming up a waterfall - they're only really above Rutgers in that division.
Does that also excuse him having a losing record for the 3 years they were in the ACC, too? Especially since he inherited a team that went 9-4 the year before he arrived?
USFFan
edsall had i a ton of injury issues during his time at maryland. He was down to his 4th string qb during 2012....
(06-07-2018 03:36 PM)usffan Wrote: Everybody going to just ignore Edsall's 22-34 record at Maryland?
USFFan
Do you realize how hard it is to win at a place like Maryland? They're swimming up a waterfall - they're only really above Rutgers in that division.
Does that also excuse him having a losing record for the 3 years they were in the ACC, too? Especially since he inherited a team that went 9-4 the year before he arrived?
USFFan
edsall had i a ton of injury issues during his time at maryland. He was down to his 4th string qb during 2012....
(06-07-2018 03:36 PM)usffan Wrote: Everybody going to just ignore Edsall's 22-34 record at Maryland?
USFFan
Do you realize how hard it is to win at a place like Maryland? They're swimming up a waterfall - they're only really above Rutgers in that division.
Does that also excuse him having a losing record for the 3 years they were in the ACC, too? Especially since he inherited a team that went 9-4 the year before he arrived?
USFFan
edsall had i a ton of injury issues during his time at maryland. He was down to his 4th string qb during 2012....
USFFan
Great song to play when your wife incessantly complains.
(06-07-2018 03:36 PM)usffan Wrote: Everybody going to just ignore Edsall's 22-34 record at Maryland?
USFFan
Do you realize how hard it is to win at a place like Maryland? They're swimming up a waterfall - they're only really above Rutgers in that division.
Does that also excuse him having a losing record for the 3 years they were in the ACC, too? Especially since he inherited a team that went 9-4 the year before he arrived?
USFFan
edsall had i a ton of injury issues during his time at maryland. He was down to his 4th string qb during 2012....
Yup. Don't let facts get in the way tho...
Hard to use that line when you couldn't get the facts of which conference he was in straight...
Edsall transitioned UCONN from FCS to FBS and took the program to a NY6 Bowl in less than 10 years.
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