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I forger where I heard it, but Mick has alluded to changes the program made in defense a few years back. Does anyone know what they were?

(03-19-2018 06:22 PM)zdiddy513 Wrote:  Lets not forget huggs isn't getting anywhere near the recruits at wvu as he got here.

I don’t follow WVU to much until the tournament, but Huggins has done great there (for non-blue blood program). Multiple deep runs in the tournament, and does it with less talent than he had here. And he gets his share of wins against the bluebloods.

(03-19-2018 07:52 AM)Fubar Wrote:  Rath and to those leaving, I wish you well. I had thought, especially through your vitamin posts, your perspective would carry the day regardless of the NCAA outcome. Something changed for you, it happens, but I hope we meet again here or at a UC function.

The ironic part is I totally get it, I used to be "that guy". It ruined my whole weekend when UC football lost, lived through the Minter years, saw the Orange bowl and Sugar Bowl live, was in the stands when Bob beat UMass with Wingfield and the Shoe was deafening. My first year of season tickets after service was Cronin's first year, it was a brutal time to be a season ticket holder, but I fondly remember players like Williamson going toe to toe with Big East heavyweights and giving so much effort in spite of losing you just knew that kid would be a success in life.

Now that I look back over 23 years of fandom, my perspective has changed as well. I've lost half my friends in the military to combat or related incidents. The other half for the most part are so chewed up mentally or physically they're on surgery 4-5 in their early forties, medicated, and will never be the same. My good friend's wife has stage 4 metastatic cancer and is dying with 3 young kids. My best buddy in college is already dead from cancer. I've seen first hand folks I respect and look up to succumb to mental illness, problems I used to say suck it up to and now realize it's every bit the challenge cancer or other disease is. I moved to Cincinnati years ago and find myself with no family left in Ohio, life certainly turned out different than when I started this road at UC in the early 90s than I expected.

These details aren't important in the sense of one person's journey, mine is relatively mild compared to many I know. Heck, if you want to read an inspirational story google Keanu Reeves early life and see what a person can do in spite of immense odds while staying true to themselves while also being wildly successful. Or read thank you for your service and see how folks coming back from overseas will never integrate back into civilian life, it will certainly update perspective. But what these tidbits do, and what i hoped Rath and others would see today, is that perspective. No one is shooting at us, I've not lost 20 pounds starving in a survival camp, the sun came up today, UC had a great season that I enjoyed and will really treasure the memories of games and such with friends and fellow fans. It was fun.

Mind you I'm not critical at all of those who want more. There are valid concerns to whether our team can address their shortcomings in March going forward or if this is a pattern to be repeated over and over. Honestly, I have no idea. I guess what I'm saying is that perspective, that Vitamin deficiency talked about before, can be honed through adversity to help you enjoy the journey, appreciate that nothing is perfect, and while losing sucks you can spend 5 minutes on it then prepare for more pressing matters while realizing next year will probably be fun again if you keep that same lens that it's a game to be enjoyed regardless. Thanks Clark, thanks Washington, I enjoyed your career. Better days are coming. People who make more than I do are paid to worry about the outcome yesterday, if you don't think any coach after that loss won't sleep for a week, well.... But I had fun. And I will again next year. I just learned to take the atic out of fan and this is a way better ride. Enjoy the day.

Go cats!

Outstanding You need to post here more often!

(03-19-2018 08:26 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  I'm upset with myself more than anything else. It's sad how much I care, and it's going to be hard to change..but I NEED to. This is so pathetic.

Don't worry. It naturally happens with age, just as Major and Bro point out. If not age and mellowing in itself, it is because you will have more going on in life.

Similar to Fubar, I've had my share of personal crap over the last 4-5 years. Up until then, I had been addicted to this board, and addicted to the Bearcats. You lose people in your life, you realize how damn stupid you had been.

I also have around 30K posts, although that has spanned over a decade. But, you guys don't see me posting a lot anymore. I would obviously say I'm not done being a Bearcat fan, but I have definitely de-emphasized it.

5-6 years ago, I would have freaked out my late wife and late dog, going ballistic over this meltdown within their direct earshot. I wouldn't have had a wink of sleep. There was a time in my life I actually wouldn't have slept too well after ANY loss.

As it was, this game did make it difficult to sleep, but I at least got in four hours. Monday, I really wasn't in all that bad a mood. I just feel so bad for the players. I saw the reporter talking to Moore, Broome and Clark in the locker room. Those guys were just devastated. Screw our sports egos, think any of these guys feel any better?

So, any of you who want me to pull the plug, you will have your wish. But, I'm going to give each of you until Thursday to calm down and reconsider.

(03-19-2018 10:51 AM)DelhiBearcat Wrote:  The pity party is strong in this thread.

Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on how you look at it), my loyalty doesn't come with a winning percentage requirement.

GO CATS! Always and forever

Welcome back... don't be a stranger.

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 02:41 PM)Lush Wrote:  remind me what conference we are in again

Perennial multi-bid conferences aren't usually considered mid-major. That goes double for the one that had 3 teams in, and three more that are indisputably high-major programs that are temporarily down (UConn, Temple, Memphis).

if uconn, temple, memphis get good again then we can have this discussion. until then we aren't playing in a power conference, but closer to the big east than mountain west by a considerable margin. limbo or something

You all need not worry. I am not going anywhere right now.

I was seriously bummed out by the game, but some of you guys need to find a more mellow drink of choice.

Okay, graduating in 72, I was already used to football teams that would look good one week, and then horrible the next month. (not happy, just accustomed to it.)

I was used to Tay Baker's teams being good, but coming in 2nd in the MVC. This was before the tournament expanded to 64 teams. In today's BB world, we would have been in the tournament most every year.

Things might actually get worse before they get better. Mellow out a little bit, and things will get better.

(03-20-2018 06:09 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 02:41 PM)Lush Wrote:  remind me what conference we are in again

Perennial multi-bid conferences aren't usually considered mid-major. That goes double for the one that had 3 teams in, and three more that are indisputably high-major programs that are temporarily down (UConn, Temple, Memphis).

if uconn, temple, memphis get good again then we can have this discussion. until then we aren't playing in a power conference, but closer to the big east than mountain west by a considerable margin. limbo or something

If Uconn hires Dan Hurley, Temple finally does something with Dunphy, and Penny manages to attract those 5-star recruits to Memphis, those programs will be back.

(03-19-2018 06:27 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  I forger where I heard it, but Mick has alluded to changes the program made in defense a few years back. Does anyone know what they were?

Yes, he changed his practices so that defense is now stressed 97% of the time rather than 94%.

(03-20-2018 04:25 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 06:27 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  I forger where I heard it, but Mick has alluded to changes the program made in defense a few years back. Does anyone know what they were?

Yes, he changed his practices so that defense is now stressed 97% of the time rather than 94%.

Perspective. Life goes on. A family friend at my church passed away yesterday from her 2 year battle with cancer. Her life on this earth is over and her family grieves. The Bearcats lost a game in a tournament. Life for them and for us will go on for now. The good Lord willing. Perspective.

I didn't want to post on here until a few days had passed since "that game" on Sunday. Like you, I am a passionate, loyal Bearcats fan and I will root for them no matter what until I go to my grave. I attended UC beginning in 1986/87 and graduated in 1992, so I know what the sports climate and facilities were at that time and how wonderfully far they've come since then. I will be posting less on Banter but I always do during the off-season. Like you, I will be pumped and primed for football season and excited about the prospects for an improved team from last year. It will help take the sting out of the basketball program's tournament shortcomings.

I do want to continue to appreciate what a special season it was for Mick and the crew. All of my expected goals for the team this season were met or exceeded with the exception of a deep tournament run. I know down here in ACC country no one is talking about Cincinnati's game. People are pissed that UNC got their ass handed to them by TXAM. Virginians are still stunned at what happened. Incredibly, by the end of Sunday (in addition to Cincinnati) Virginia, Exavier, North Carolina, Michigan State, Tennessee, Arizona, Auburn and WSU all lost. Many had picked one of these schools to take the Championship and others to advance to the second weekend. No team from the American made it into the second weekend. We split the regular season with Houston and WSU so maybe not much separated us from them. All I know is a lot of fans and alumni from other programs are pissed, disappointed, frustrated, etc. This doesn't take away from the loss on Sunday but we're not alone in how we feel. We're sports fans but fans of sports is not what really defines us. Life will go on. Perspective. I'm good.

Mick just need pull off a move like he did with flint and lance!!!

(03-20-2018 05:30 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote:  Mick just need pull off a move like he did with flint and lance!!!

Don't hold your breadth.

I agree with Ring of Black's quote: "I saw the reporter talking to Moore, Broome and Clark in the locker room. Those guys were just devastated. Screw our sports egos, think any of these guys feel any better?"

I started at UC in '64 and lived through a really good Bearcats team losing in overtime to future champion Texas Western in the regional semi-final. I bled red and black then and still do at 72. On a four way conference call with my sons, who are Cincy fans because of their dad, I heard my grandsons crying hysterically at the end of Sunday's game. They were upset with the loss but more upset for grandpa. I told them that it is only a game and, though I was shocked and disappointed, think about how Gary and Kyle and the other players feel. It was a GREAT season...31-5, regular season and Tourney Champion. It was a catastrophic loss considering our collapse and that of the South bracket...sh*t happens? Are the Virginia fans all bailing on Tony Bennett and the Cavaliers because they lost to a sixteen seed? I still bleed red and black and will until they close the lid on that box. GO BEARCATS!!

i think tony bennett (virginia's coach) said it best when he said it's march. wonderful things happen. wonderful things have to come at somebody's expense. just think about all the joy we gave to thousands of hoops fans casual and fanatic alike

(03-20-2018 06:56 PM)Lush Wrote:  i think tony bennett (virginia's coach) said it best when he said it's march. wonderful things happen. wonderful things have to come at somebody's expense. just think about all the joy we gave to thousands of hoops fans casual and fanatic alike

Lol we sure have brought alot ot joy to other schools fans over the years. We're the Santa of March Madness!

Disappointed in all the quitting & giving up but guess I'm not surprised. I root for my teams but stopped letting a sporting event ruin my days long ago. If I was the screaming, fighting fan that I've seen at games many times I'd probably quit too. But like quitting, it's not in my blood. It's fun & I enjoy it. Win or lose.

I'm disappointed in our fans but guess the fair weathered nature of fans is nothing new. It's easy to jump ship when things get tough in life. This isn't even tough in the big picture but is no different.

I choose to believe there is much more benefit & reward in being loyal, looking at the good in the big picture & powering through. I'm 37 & have literally never had a team I root for win anything in my adult life. Was 11 when we made the final 4 in '92 & remember it but was too young to be a true fan.

Maybe our luck/fate changes one day, maybe not but I'll be around. And if we ever do make another run it will be so much better for those of us that stayed.

(03-20-2018 05:16 AM)Ring of Black Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 08:26 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  I'm upset with myself more than anything else. It's sad how much I care, and it's going to be hard to change..but I NEED to. This is so pathetic.

Don't worry. It naturally happens with age, just as Major and Bro point out. If not age and mellowing in itself, it is because you will have more going on in life.

Similar to Fubar, I've had my share of personal crap over the last 4-5 years. Up until then, I had been addicted to this board, and addicted to the Bearcats. You lose people in your life, you realize how damn stupid you had been.

I also have around 30K posts, although that has spanned over a decade. But, you guys don't see me posting a lot anymore. I would obviously say I'm not done being a Bearcat fan, but I have definitely de-emphasized it.

5-6 years ago, I would have freaked out my late wife and late dog, going ballistic over this meltdown within their direct earshot. I wouldn't have had a wink of sleep. There was a time in my life I actually wouldn't have slept too well after ANY loss.

As it was, this game did make it difficult to sleep, but I at least got in four hours. Monday, I really wasn't in all that bad a mood. I just feel so bad for the players. I saw the reporter talking to Moore, Broome and Clark in the locker room. Those guys were just devastated. Screw our sports egos, think any of these guys feel any better?

So, any of you who want me to pull the plug, you will have your wish. But, I'm going to give each of you until Thursday to calm down and reconsider.

Don't pull the plug. If you do, we won't know who to mock when they inevitably come back and make a new account.

I’ll remain a fan. Been going to games at the Colesium since ‘78. I’ve seen the terrible years. I just realized I’m getting too emotionally invested. I need to take my fanaticism down a few notches.