(01-02-2018 04:51 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 04:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 04:33 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 04:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 03:22 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  oh I dont know... maybe, there werent any crashes?

No, that might make it AS safe. Not the "best and safest year on record."

And you're missing a key detail. This is the story:

Quote:There were no passenger jets crashes anywhere in the world, separate reports by Dutch consultancy To70 and The Aviation Safety Network found.

This was despite more flights being made than ever before.

But To70 warned that despite high safety levels on passenger planes, the "extraordinarily" low accident rate must be seen as "good fortune".

2017 safest year for air travel as fatalities fall

I'm sorry, but no, the trump administrations tweaks to screening are not responsible in any way shape or form to the good fortune in air travel in 2017 for the entire world!

That link you posted is fake news...

2017
January 16 – Turkish Airlines Flight 6491, a Boeing 747-400F, crashes into a residential area upon attempting landing in thick fog in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan. The four crew members and 35 people on the ground are killed.
March 20 – South Supreme Airlines Antonov An-26 crash, an Antonov An-26, crashes on landing at Wau Airport, South Sudan. All 40 passengers and five crew members survive.
March 28 – Peruvian Airlines Flight 112, a Boeing 737-300, is burnt out following the collapse of the landing gear at Francisco Carle Airport, Jauja. All 141 people on board survive.
July 7 – Air Canada Flight 759, an Airbus A320, nearly lands on a taxiway occupied by four jets at SFO 28R. No one is killed or injured.
September 30 – Air France Flight 66, an Airbus A380, suffers an uncontained engine failure and makes an emergency landing at Goose Bay Airport, Canada. No one is killed or injured.
December 13 – West Wind Aviation Flight 280, an ATR 42-300, crashes shortly after takeoff from Fond-du-Lac Airport, Saskatchewan, Canada. Of the 25 passengers and crew on board, all initially survive, but one passenger dies of his injuries in the hospital 12 days later.

No, it's not. That's why it's dangerous for trump and his minions to label anything they don't like as such.

If you bothered to read the story you would clearly see this:

Quote:Cargo plane crash
A report by the Airline Safety Network said there were a total of ten fatal accidents, resulting in 79 deaths last year. That compared with 16 accidents and 303 lives lost in 2016.

The organisation based its figures on incidents involving civil aircraft certified to carry at least 14 people.

The most serious accident of 2017 came in January when a Turkish cargo plane crashed into a village in Kyrgyzstan killing all four crew and 35 people on the ground.

And the incident with the most on-board fatalities happened on New Years Eve, when a Nature Air single-propeller Cessna 208 Caravan plane crashed in western Costa Rica, killing 12 passengers and crew.

Neither report counted military or helicopter accidents, meaning the year's worst air disaster, the crash of a Burmese Y-8 military transporter plane, which crashed in June killing all 122 people on board did not appear in the statistics.

Incidents involving smaller planes also did not figure in the data.

trump's tweet however...is complete and total bull****...but you defend that to the hilt.

ok, so 2017 was not the safest year in aviation history? I am trying to comprehend whats bull**** about his tweet. Did he lie? Because everything I am seeing online, and in articles, 2017, in fact, was the safest in aviation history. Also, did you know, that safety isnt just rated on the number of deaths? Once you get past that tiny little detail, you will start to comprehend why this was the safest year. I mean, we all know you hate the man, but what was wrong on his tweet?

Understand and totally get that. The part is implying in any way shape or form that him being "strict" on commercial aviation had anything to do with it. No one has yet to even show that the screening changes he made were even implemented yet! By adding that part he is trying to fool his minions into thinking something he did lead to it being the safest year, it didn't. Clearly, that appears to be working. Sad.

(01-02-2018 05:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 04:51 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 04:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 04:33 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 04:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, that might make it AS safe. Not the "best and safest year on record."
And you're missing a key detail. This is the story:
2017 safest year for air travel as fatalities fall
I'm sorry, but no, the trump administrations tweaks to screening are not responsible in any way shape or form to the good fortune in air travel in 2017 for the entire world!

That link you posted is fake news...
2017
January 16 – Turkish Airlines Flight 6491, a Boeing 747-400F, crashes into a residential area upon attempting landing in thick fog in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan. The four crew members and 35 people on the ground are killed.
March 20 – South Supreme Airlines Antonov An-26 crash, an Antonov An-26, crashes on landing at Wau Airport, South Sudan. All 40 passengers and five crew members survive.
March 28 – Peruvian Airlines Flight 112, a Boeing 737-300, is burnt out following the collapse of the landing gear at Francisco Carle Airport, Jauja. All 141 people on board survive.
July 7 – Air Canada Flight 759, an Airbus A320, nearly lands on a taxiway occupied by four jets at SFO 28R. No one is killed or injured.
September 30 – Air France Flight 66, an Airbus A380, suffers an uncontained engine failure and makes an emergency landing at Goose Bay Airport, Canada. No one is killed or injured.
December 13 – West Wind Aviation Flight 280, an ATR 42-300, crashes shortly after takeoff from Fond-du-Lac Airport, Saskatchewan, Canada. Of the 25 passengers and crew on board, all initially survive, but one passenger dies of his injuries in the hospital 12 days later.

No, it's not. That's why it's dangerous for trump and his minions to label anything they don't like as such.
If you bothered to read the story you would clearly see this:

Quote:Cargo plane crash
A report by the Airline Safety Network said there were a total of ten fatal accidents, resulting in 79 deaths last year. That compared with 16 accidents and 303 lives lost in 2016.
The organisation based its figures on incidents involving civil aircraft certified to carry at least 14 people.
The most serious accident of 2017 came in January when a Turkish cargo plane crashed into a village in Kyrgyzstan killing all four crew and 35 people on the ground.
And the incident with the most on-board fatalities happened on New Years Eve, when a Nature Air single-propeller Cessna 208 Caravan plane crashed in western Costa Rica, killing 12 passengers and crew.
Neither report counted military or helicopter accidents, meaning the year's worst air disaster, the crash of a Burmese Y-8 military transporter plane, which crashed in June killing all 122 people on board did not appear in the statistics.
Incidents involving smaller planes also did not figure in the data.

trump's tweet however...is complete and total bull****...but you defend that to the hilt.

ok, so 2017 was not the safest year in aviation history? I am trying to comprehend whats bull**** about his tweet. Did he lie? Because everything I am seeing online, and in articles, 2017, in fact, was the safest in aviation history. Also, did you know, that safety isnt just rated on the number of deaths? Once you get past that tiny little detail, you will start to comprehend why this was the safest year. I mean, we all know you hate the man, but what was wrong on his tweet?

Understand and totally get that. The part is implying in any way shape or form that him being "strict" on commercial aviation had anything to do with it. No one has yet to even show that the screening changes he made were even implemented yet! By adding that part he is trying to fool his minions into thinking something he did lead to it being the safest year, it didn't. Clearly, that appears to be working. Sad.

I really wish he didn't do this sort of stuff. So 2017 was the safest year ever, what did he do to bring that about? Just like giving Obama credit for economic growth when 1) that growth was extraordinarily slow for coming out of a recession, any recession, but particularly a large one, and 2) the real reason for growth was low energy prices due to fracking.

Why do people take credit for things they had nothing to do with?

Besides, what happens if, God forbid, there is a major crash next year? Will that be Trump's fault? I'm sure that's how the media will play it. So why open yourself up to that sort of thing?

Pretend Obama made that tweet.

(01-02-2018 02:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 02:24 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  sooooo..... no deaths on commercial flights in the US since 09, but some of you here think trump really is the person to praise for this? good lord

I think you meant to say passenger flights in the US. The UPS flight crash in 2013 was technically a commercial flight. Two pilots were killed. No other crew were on board.

And that happened in Hawaii? Isn't that the birthplace of Obama? If there would have been airline fatalities this year, you don't think Trump would have been blamed? Of course he would have.

If there had been any crashes and someone blamed Trump, they would be every bit as big an idiot as Trump or anyone crediting him for no crashes.

He had to be joking. No one could say something that and mean it.

(01-02-2018 04:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 03:22 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 03:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 02:46 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 02:24 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  sooooo..... no deaths on commercial flights in the US since 09, but some of you here think trump really is the person to praise for this? good lord

2009
February 12 – Colgan Air Flight 3407, a Bombardier Dash 8 Q400, flying from Newark Liberty International in New Jersey to Buffalo Niagara International Airport in New York crashes into a house in Clarence, New York, killing all 49 aboard the plane and one on the ground.

2013
August 14 – UPS Airlines Flight 1354, an Airbus A300 freighter, crashes short of the runway on approach to Birmingham–Shuttlesworth International Airport, killing the two crew on board.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac...l_aircraft

Also, whats wrong with his tweet? Is he lying?

There were no deaths in 2014.
No deaths in 2015.
No deaths in 2016 either.

How was 2017 any safer than those? How was it the best year ever?

oh I dont know... maybe, there werent any crashes?

No, that might make it AS safe. Not the "best and safest year on record."

And you're missing a key detail. This is the story:

Quote:There were no passenger jets crashes anywhere in the world, separate reports by Dutch consultancy To70 and The Aviation Safety Network found.

This was despite more flights being made than ever before.

But To70 warned that despite high safety levels on passenger planes, the "extraordinarily" low accident rate must be seen as "good fortune".

2017 safest year for air travel as fatalities fall

I'm sorry, but no, the trump administrations tweaks to screening are not responsible in any way shape or form to the good fortune in air travel in 2017 for the entire world!

Isn't President Trump the leader of the free world? Good job Mr. President looking out for us. Every day I'm more thankful than the last that we have his leadership.

Trump has shirt under his suit with the letter S on it. He can leap tall buildings also.

(01-02-2018 05:49 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Trump has shirt under his suit with the letter S on it. He can leap tall buildings also.

I'm not quite there yet. But I'm getting there. Thank you Mr. President, from one grateful American

(01-02-2018 05:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I really wish he didn't do this sort of stuff. So 2017 was the safest year ever, what did he do to bring that about? Just like giving Obama credit for economic growth when 1) that growth was extraordinarily slow for coming out of a recession, any recession, but particularly a large one, and 2) the real reason for growth was low energy prices due to fracking.

Why do people take credit for things they had nothing to do with?

Besides, what happens if, God forbid, there is a major crash next year? Will that be Trump's fault? I'm sure that's how the media will play it. So why open yourself up to that sort of thing?

this one easily falls under the 'wth are you thinking.....it's pretty easy to tweet pointless shite when it matters'

ol' boy screwed the pooch twice on this one....

With the left hand Trump sends annoying tweets to keep media busy, with the right implementing his agenda.


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I had no idea that aviation safety could be so controversial.

Lesson: Never doubt the extent of the alt-left's TDS.

Think how he could impact wildfires if he focussed

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(01-02-2018 07:35 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Think how he could impact wildfires if he focussed

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He's only human. One thing at a time.

You know you live a sad life when you spend all your time trying to create your own reality. I'm actually starting to feel a little sorry for you guys.

(01-02-2018 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  That. Man. Is. Insane.

We also weren't struck by any asteroids either. Thanks trump!

#MAGA

Fair's fair. Trump gets blamed for hurricanes.

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I can’t make up my mind.
I waffle between he’s the greatest troll ever derailing people with silliness or battling dementia.

If Dems take the House and narrow the gap in the Senate I figure we will know more.
If he dusts off his campaign promise of paid maternity leave and his long standing support of universal healthcare then he will clearly be the greatest troll ever playing everyone


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lol. People still arguing semantics.

(01-02-2018 05:46 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  He had to be joking. No one could say something that and mean it.

Sure, if this was an isolated incident. Sadly, it's far from it. He clearly believes the couple screening procedures he had changed at airports in America (that likely weren't even implemented until late in 2017 if at all) lead to a world-wide decline in airplane deaths for the entire year. Although, if he doesn't actually believe it, he most likely wants or expects his minions to believe it.