(12-19-2017 09:10 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  How do you expect to grow the economy and give everyone free **** without cutting taxes for job creators?

when one believes commie socialism should be the law of the land......

It just really bothers me that people who bitched and complained and cheered when the govt. shut down over funding issues are hypocritical when thios boondoggle is being pushing through. This massive 1.5 trillion straight up give away to the donor class. This tax bill is fixing shyt? It's not. There should be a corporate AMT at least. This process has been worse than anything that was done by the D's in 2008 and 2009 and I just hope the pay a similar political price.


Eric where above did I cite your name?

Also.... can you please cite where Obama added 9 trillion to the debt? ACtual citiations please.

Claim evidence and the Support.

CES

Facts out of thin air. Someone is quite good at that. Again...... please show "EVIDENCE" of Obama adding 9 trillion to our debt. Pleases and Thank Yous.

(12-19-2017 09:13 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It just really bothers me that people who bitched and complained and cheered when the govt. shut down over funding issues are hypocritical when thios boondoggle is being pushing through. This massive 1.5 trillion straight up give away to the donor class. This tax bill is fixing shyt? It's not. There should be a corporate AMT at least. This process has been worse than anything that was done by the D's in 2008 and 2009 and I just hope the pay a similar political price.


Eric where above did I cite your name?

Also.... can you please cite where Obama added 9 trillion to the debt? ACtual citiations please.

Claim evidence and the Support.

CES

Facts out of thin air. Someone is quite good at that. Again...... please show "EVIDENCE" of Obama adding 9 trillion to our debt. Pleases and Thank Yous.

It's 8 trillion

job creators........ trickle down.........

you guys have the vernacular down......... if only your policies were as half as successful as your vernacular.

(12-19-2017 09:15 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  job creators........ trickle down.........

you guys have the vernacular down......... if only your policies were as half as successful as your vernacular.

No it's reality. I didn't get a job from a middle class person or a poor person.

You don't understand how an economy works, income inequality means absolutely nothing. Worry about YOU

Ok Eric. You typing.... It's 8 trillion..... is niether a citation or support of a claim. You would recieve an F there.


Again please cite evidence now using "8" trillion of ANYTHING YOU CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!

You are really bad at this but there is always room for growth and achievement. Please show evidence for your claims that Obama added 8 trillion to our debt.

(12-19-2017 09:18 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ok Eric. You typing.... It's 8 trillion..... is niether a citation or support of a claim. You would recieve an F there.


Again please cite evidence now using "8" trillion of ANYTHING YOU CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!

You are really bad at this but there is always room for growth and achievement. Please show evidence for your claims that Obama added 8 trillion to our debt.

Barack Obama -- Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase, in seven years. This was the fifth-largest increase percentage-wise. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package. It added $787 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding public works projects. The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt in two years.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-pr...nt-3306296

ok ... Just noticed Walk the Plank wants to join in the fun. Same assignment to you Walk. Please cite evidence where Obama added 8 trillion to the debt. Please cite the years.

(12-19-2017 07:27 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 07:14 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And our deficit is going to go up 1.5 trillion due to this boondoggle. People can’t be this stupid? Who could possibly support this? It’s going to be the most disliked piece of legislation in 30 years.

Shush. If this was Obama you'd be singing the praises.

BOOM!!!

(12-19-2017 09:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  ok ... Just noticed Walk the Plank wants to join in the fun. Same assignment to you Walk. Please cite evidence where Obama added 8 trillion to the debt. Please cite the years.

read the post right above yours

but i'm guessing that you, being a liberal, and having to take everything precisely, will say $7.9 isn't $8T and throw a fit over semantics

When you actually read the article that is posted. Something that this room never does you can see that Obama's terms coincides with a time period where R's controlled the purse strings. R's are in charge of 75% of that deficit you guys are bitching about!!!!!!!!! It's incredibly sad to me that we are 20 trillion in debt and we are even discussing this much less passing it!!!!

The job creators line is total BS too. This won't create the jobs that you polllyannas are singing. This is a dead ass give away to shareholders and CEO pay. It's a donor give away. Just wait to I post all of the carve outs.

(12-19-2017 09:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  When you actually read the article that is posted. Something that this room never does you can see that Obama's terms coincides with a time period where R's controlled the purse strings. R's are in charge of 75% of that deficit you guys are bitching about!!!!!!!!! It's incredibly sad to me that we are 20 trillion in debt and we are even discussing this much less passing it!!!!

The job creators line is total BS too. This won't create the jobs that you polllyannas are singing. This is a dead ass give away to shareholders and CEO pay. It's a donor give away. Just wait to I post all of the carve outs.

Wrong.

The republicans prevented ADDITIONAL spending, something that caused Obama grave butthurt. But they couldnt undo his previous spending, because they lacked the senate votes to pull that off. They also didnt control the whitehouse, which meant they couldnt overrule spending levels that were already passed.

Its all on Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. You guys own it. Leave it to a libturd to applaud massive spending levels and the doubling of the debt, see it not work, then try to point the finger of blame at republicans.

The libturds count on people that remain as clueless as you in order to survive.

you're insane Mach

Obama had from Jan 2009 until Jan 2011 where the Democrats had a majority in the house & senate and controlled the purse strings. That's when he ramrodded his bogus stimulus through. But if you want to look at things that way, the economy tanking coincided with the Democrats taking congress in Jan 2007.

(12-19-2017 09:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  When you actually read the article that is posted. Something that this room never does you can see that Obama's terms coincides with a time period where R's controlled the purse strings. R's are in charge of 75% of that deficit you guys are bitching about!!!!!!!!! It's incredibly sad to me that we are 20 trillion in debt and we are even discussing this much less passing it!!!!

The job creators line is total BS too. This won't create the jobs that you polllyannas are singing. This is a dead ass give away to shareholders and CEO pay. It's a donor give away. Just wait to I post all of the carve outs.

So like what Reagan had to endure in the 80s? Dems love to bring up the debt from that. YOU own the spending there.

"Its all on Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. You guys own it. Leave it to a libturd to applaud massive spending levels and the doubling of the debt,"


WRONG! Even if you place the blame of spending on Obama WHICH YOU CAN'T beacuse that's not how it works in the constitution!!! but let's say that you do for arguments sake it only went up 68% under him. You guys are just really bad at math, thought, and logic. Why can't you think Fredo 1? Now here's a little assignment for you. Compare that 68% to the last Republican Presidents. Tell me what you find Fredo 1.

hey look, mach is now blaming republicans for oblunder's mistakes... bahahahahahahahaha

(12-19-2017 09:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  "Its all on Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. You guys own it. Leave it to a libturd to applaud massive spending levels and the doubling of the debt,"


WRONG! Even if you place the blame of spending on Obama WHICH YOU CAN'T beacuse that's not how it works in the constitution!!! but let's say that you do for arguments sake it only went up 68% under him. You guys are just really bad at math, thought, and logic. Why can't you think Fredo 1? Now here's a little assignment for you. Compare that 68% to the last Republican Presidents. Tell me what you find Fredo 1.

MUH MATH!!!



he almost doubled the national debt! You should tell your Middle School Match teacher to help you out with your math skills...

(12-19-2017 07:14 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  In 10 years 53% of tax payers will be paying more in taxes.

Unless a Bernie disciple is in office. Then 100% of tax payers will be paying more.

Mun Math...... look how cute little Fredo is and his band of merry men.

He went and corrected his doubling of the debt comment......................

You should have kept it in there Fredo. Now your band of merry men are going to get confused...................