(12-05-2017 08:03 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 06:47 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 02:29 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 02:15 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 01:22 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I’ll take playing and losing to Texas Tech over playing and losing to Army or Troy any day and night.

Oh, ok. Enjoy I guess.

Seriously, dude... Is there NO ONE on whatever it is you MWC people use for a message board? Please go away.

lol no, there isn't anybody. The MWC doesn't have fans. 3/4 of the schools play in a cow pasture....or rented nfl stadium because they aren't really serious about football, cough, sdsu, cough

http://newscenter.sdsu.edu/sdsu_newscent...?sid=77033

We won't ever lose another home game.....

Might not matter.

MWC to blame for San Diego State's Bowl?

Man....I think moral over at SDSU is pretty low right now....I think they would do cartwheels for a AAC invite.....IF AAC wanted to destroy MW I believe we could do it right now. With that said I see no advantage for us to do except to dominate the final NY6 bowl. BYU, Boise, SDSU are the schools you want....with either Fresno, AF, Colorado St as your last. But short of a massive raise in TV contracts....or a guaranteed spot for a playoff inclusion ...I don't know if it will ever be worth it. The conference would be awesome though.

(12-06-2017 02:21 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Man....I think moral over at SDSU is pretty low right now....I think they would do cartwheels for a AAC invite.....IF AAC wanted to destroy MW I believe we could do it right now. With that said I see no advantage for us to do except to dominate the final NY6 bowl. BYU, Boise, SDSU are the schools you want....with either Fresno, AF, Colorado St as your last. But short of a massive raise in TV contracts....or a guaranteed spot for a playoff inclusion ...I don't know if it will ever be worth it. The conference would be awesome though.

What could have been if the AAC could have gotten yeses from mwc teams it invited.

Uconn
Temple
Cincy
USF
UCF
Memphis
Navy
ECU


Houston
Smu
Bsu
Sdsu
BYU
CSU
Afa
Unlv

(12-06-2017 01:26 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 08:03 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 06:47 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 02:29 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 02:15 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Oh, ok. Enjoy I guess.

Seriously, dude... Is there NO ONE on whatever it is you MWC people use for a message board? Please go away.

lol no, there isn't anybody. The MWC doesn't have fans. 3/4 of the schools play in a cow pasture....or rented nfl stadium because they aren't really serious about football, cough, sdsu, cough

http://newscenter.sdsu.edu/sdsu_newscent...?sid=77033

We won't ever lose another home game.....

Might not matter.

MWC to blame for San Diego State's Bowl?

"Does the lack of Mountain West sway and non-existent leverage feel familiar? It should."

Ouch.

Boise won't have regrets until and unless, We get a good TV deal and the MWC doesn't.

(12-06-2017 08:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Boise won't have regrets until and unless, We get a good TV deal and the MWC doesn't.

Thats When not If.

We have the eyeballs/population. They dont. Checkmate.

(12-06-2017 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Boise won't have regrets until and unless, We get a good TV deal and the MWC doesn't.

Thats When not If.

We have the eyeballs/population. They dont. Checkmate.

Just a matter of time before Aresco is swimming in bills. We are putting up huge numbers in these last few games.

I think you can forget about BYU. Picking up four MWC teams would be a great move.

I believe SDSU, Boise State, and Colorado State would be the first three called. The question after that is which one would be the last pick. I would go with UNLV based on market size and basketball reputation over Air Force or Fresno State.

Football
West: SDSU, Boise State, Colorado State, UNLV, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane
East: Memphis, Navy, Cincinnati, ECU, Temple, UConn, USF, UCF

Basketball divisions

North: Cincinnati, Temple, UConn, Memphis
South: ECU, Tulane, USF, UCF
Midwest: Wichita State, Tulsa, Houston, SMU
West: UNLV, SDSU, Boise State, Colorado State

Play everyone in your division twice plus two crossovers twice and everyone else once for 20 games. Conference tournament is a 16 team four region/division tournament with the winners of each four team division meeting in the semifinals. The goal is to be a national conference with regional rivalries.

(12-06-2017 07:27 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 01:26 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 08:03 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 06:47 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 02:29 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Seriously, dude... Is there NO ONE on whatever it is you MWC people use for a message board? Please go away.

lol no, there isn't anybody. The MWC doesn't have fans. 3/4 of the schools play in a cow pasture....or rented nfl stadium because they aren't really serious about football, cough, sdsu, cough

http://newscenter.sdsu.edu/sdsu_newscent...?sid=77033

We won't ever lose another home game.....

Might not matter.

MWC to blame for San Diego State's Bowl?

"Does the lack of Mountain West sway and non-existent leverage feel familiar? It should."

Ouch.

Oh, I agree with the article. It is a little unrealistic, but for the most part rational. I always support rational thought, and am amused by delusion or irrationality. Its one of the main reasons I am here.

(12-06-2017 08:31 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Boise won't have regrets until and unless, We get a good TV deal and the MWC doesn't.

Thats When not If.

We have the eyeballs/population. They dont. Checkmate.

Just a matter of time before Aresco is swimming in bills. We are putting up huge numbers in these last few games.

What is your definition "swimming in bills?" I agree that Aresco, is already swimming. The question is, will the conference?

(12-06-2017 09:01 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:31 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Boise won't have regrets until and unless, We get a good TV deal and the MWC doesn't.

Thats When not If.

We have the eyeballs/population. They dont. Checkmate.

Just a matter of time before Aresco is swimming in bills. We are putting up huge numbers in these last few games.

What is your definition "swimming in bills?" I agree that Aresco, is already swimming. The question is, will the conference?

with the TV ratings we’ve been getting, the ranked teams and filled stadiums -we’re probably looking at $10-12mil/team/year on the low-end.

I know Knightime has a Computer program he developed and that is the projection it is giving us this time.

(12-06-2017 09:13 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:01 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:31 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Boise won't have regrets until and unless, We get a good TV deal and the MWC doesn't.

Thats When not If.

We have the eyeballs/population. They dont. Checkmate.

Just a matter of time before Aresco is swimming in bills. We are putting up huge numbers in these last few games.

What is your definition "swimming in bills?" I agree that Aresco, is already swimming. The question is, will the conference?

with the TV ratings we’ve been getting, the ranked teams and filled stadiums -we’re probably looking at $10-12mil/team/year on the low-end.

I know Knightime has a Computer program he developed and that is the projection it is giving us this time.

No chance.

If I am wrong, I will acknowledge the American is p6, and will be groveling to join.

(12-06-2017 10:50 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:13 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:01 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:31 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Thats When not If.

We have the eyeballs/population. They dont. Checkmate.

Just a matter of time before Aresco is swimming in bills. We are putting up huge numbers in these last few games.

What is your definition "swimming in bills?" I agree that Aresco, is already swimming. The question is, will the conference?

with the TV ratings we’ve been getting, the ranked teams and filled stadiums -we’re probably looking at $10-12mil/team/year on the low-end.

I know Knightime has a Computer program he developed and that is the projection it is giving us this time.

No chance.

If I am wrong, I will acknowledge the American is p6, and will be groveling to join.

10 to 12 million huh? WOW. When is the announcement coming?

Just because we earn ratings does not necessarily translate into a big $$$ contract... It should, but not necessarily. It's still market forces, someone has to OFFER to pay us. If there is not a lot of competition, ESPN can offer us beans (again) and we would have no alternative to accept. We... need... competition. (Or a benevolent ESPN... which isn't happening).

5-7 million per team would be fantastic, and well establish us separated from the G4. Full up 'Power' status, with a contract bowl, may need to wait another cycle or two... but progress is all we need.

(12-06-2017 10:50 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:13 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:01 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:31 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Thats When not If.

We have the eyeballs/population. They dont. Checkmate.

Just a matter of time before Aresco is swimming in bills. We are putting up huge numbers in these last few games.

What is your definition "swimming in bills?" I agree that Aresco, is already swimming. The question is, will the conference?

with the TV ratings we’ve been getting, the ranked teams and filled stadiums -we’re probably looking at $10-12mil/team/year on the low-end.

I know Knightime has a Computer program he developed and that is the projection it is giving us this time.

No chance.

If I am wrong, I will acknowledge the American is p6, and will be groveling to join.

That's some good material. Be sure to tip the waitstaff, 10pm show is different then the 6pm show.

(12-05-2017 11:16 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:11 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:06 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 10:50 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 10:48 AM)pesik Wrote:  this is so strange coming from an sdsu fan for 2 reasons

1) you have only beaten 3 p5 in the last decade..that has been the biggest knock on sdsu for years...but you are trying to deny the impact o another p5 win

2) your fans and and everyone who knows about ssdsu has bragged about 2 pac 12 wins...really that the selling point of this season....in 5 years sdsu fans will remember this season as they year you beat 2 pac 12 teams (no one will say anything about army) ....you beat a 6-6 ucla....regardless this season would have been the year you beat 3 pac 12 in 1 year and will be talked about forever by your fans ...and will be seen as a moe memorable season than your 2 championship season.the year you beat stanford, ucla and arizona state..no one will remember records

i don't get your denial of this...i dont like your bias..sometimes youll ignore reality just to fit your perspective and desires ...fresno will lose to wyoming without allen (you actually sad this) and you reference that as the likely outcome

i rarely care about record if they arent top 25 in bowls. i care about brand names ..what will be remembered...

Your entire post could have been ignored if you read my first sentence.

How old are you again? Seriously, I just looking for context.

i don't like answering questions like this (for me or for anyone) it is used to discredit some who might have a point for something that has nothing to do with the point..but ill give you a round about.. im about 30, give or take..

its better in bowls than in september

ucf till this day brags about beating Georgia in a bowl game..no one talks about how good or bad they were

houston has played in a lot of bowls in it history.. i couldnt tell you the record of any of them, or even if they weere good.. i could tell you if they were percieved good at that time...i solely base those games on the brand of those teams

the only 1 i can kinda note on is Maryland...houston beat a elite Maryland, who would have won a national title had they beaten us in a cotton bowl game..maryland has no brand and is never talked about by our fans as all time historic win..because no one cares about maryland..brand matters...

Fair enough. I assumed you were about 16 or 17, as I think your perspective is skewed a bit (not trying to be a dick, just being honest).

I think you proved my point again. Nobody benefits from beating a 6-6 Texas Tech team (or Maryland), as nobody cares about those programs. As such, USF will look silly when they lose to TT, but gain nothing when they beat them. We seem to agree.

i knew you were going to say that.. life isnt black or white..there is shades gray

maryland is still p5 and will take president over any g5 win...

6-6 texas tech over any g5 ...thats just a fact (if the g5 isn't top 25)

6-6 ucla over any g5

As a lurking SDSU alum I have to say that playing 6-6 ucla over any g5 is better without a doubt. No debate about it. And yes, I am regretting SDSU not being able to stay in the AAC. It is a better conference IMO hands down and culturally matches SDSU better than the MWC.

(12-06-2017 10:50 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:13 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:01 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:31 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Thats When not If.

We have the eyeballs/population. They dont. Checkmate.

Just a matter of time before Aresco is swimming in bills. We are putting up huge numbers in these last few games.

What is your definition "swimming in bills?" I agree that Aresco, is already swimming. The question is, will the conference?

with the TV ratings we’ve been getting, the ranked teams and filled stadiums -we’re probably looking at $10-12mil/team/year on the low-end.

I know Knightime has a Computer program he developed and that is the projection it is giving us this time.

No chance.

If I am wrong, I will acknowledge the American is p6, and will be groveling to join.

Like I said...Knightime created a computer model and this is what it is telling us. And this is a conservative figure. The model is saying more than likely we are looking at something in the $14-$17 mil/team/year. Its based on key inputs. Its complicated.

(12-06-2017 03:15 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:50 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:13 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:01 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 08:31 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Just a matter of time before Aresco is swimming in bills. We are putting up huge numbers in these last few games.

What is your definition "swimming in bills?" I agree that Aresco, is already swimming. The question is, will the conference?

with the TV ratings we’ve been getting, the ranked teams and filled stadiums -we’re probably looking at $10-12mil/team/year on the low-end.

I know Knightime has a Computer program he developed and that is the projection it is giving us this time.

No chance.

If I am wrong, I will acknowledge the American is p6, and will be groveling to join.

Like I said...Knightime created a computer model and this is what it is telling us. And this is a conservative figure. The model is saying more than likely we are looking at something in the $14-$17 mil/team/year. Its based on key inputs. Its complicated.

(12-06-2017 03:02 PM)rebar619 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:16 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:11 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:06 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 10:50 AM)fanhood Wrote:  Your entire post could have been ignored if you read my first sentence.

How old are you again? Seriously, I just looking for context.

i don't like answering questions like this (for me or for anyone) it is used to discredit some who might have a point for something that has nothing to do with the point..but ill give you a round about.. im about 30, give or take..

its better in bowls than in september

ucf till this day brags about beating Georgia in a bowl game..no one talks about how good or bad they were

houston has played in a lot of bowls in it history.. i couldnt tell you the record of any of them, or even if they weere good.. i could tell you if they were percieved good at that time...i solely base those games on the brand of those teams

the only 1 i can kinda note on is Maryland...houston beat a elite Maryland, who would have won a national title had they beaten us in a cotton bowl game..maryland has no brand and is never talked about by our fans as all time historic win..because no one cares about maryland..brand matters...

Fair enough. I assumed you were about 16 or 17, as I think your perspective is skewed a bit (not trying to be a dick, just being honest).

I think you proved my point again. Nobody benefits from beating a 6-6 Texas Tech team (or Maryland), as nobody cares about those programs. As such, USF will look silly when they lose to TT, but gain nothing when they beat them. We seem to agree.

i knew you were going to say that.. life isnt black or white..there is shades gray

maryland is still p5 and will take president over any g5 win...

6-6 texas tech over any g5 ...thats just a fact (if the g5 isn't top 25)

6-6 ucla over any g5

As a lurking SDSU alum I have to say that playing 6-6 ucla over any g5 is better without a doubt. No debate about it. And yes, I am regretting SDSU not being able to stay in the AAC. It is a better conference IMO hands down and culturally matches SDSU better than the MWC.

My friend, why is it that we agree on every subject except this one? Lets just focus on destroying FS together, huh?

Regarding culture, the AAC has none. Its still new. Doesn't mean it won't be great down the line. With that, I am not sure what the MW culture is either? Brokeback Wyoming? Who knows.

(12-06-2017 03:35 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 03:02 PM)rebar619 Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:16 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:11 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-05-2017 11:06 AM)pesik Wrote:  i don't like answering questions like this (for me or for anyone) it is used to discredit some who might have a point for something that has nothing to do with the point..but ill give you a round about.. im about 30, give or take..

its better in bowls than in september

ucf till this day brags about beating Georgia in a bowl game..no one talks about how good or bad they were

houston has played in a lot of bowls in it history.. i couldnt tell you the record of any of them, or even if they weere good.. i could tell you if they were percieved good at that time...i solely base those games on the brand of those teams

the only 1 i can kinda note on is Maryland...houston beat a elite Maryland, who would have won a national title had they beaten us in a cotton bowl game..maryland has no brand and is never talked about by our fans as all time historic win..because no one cares about maryland..brand matters...

Fair enough. I assumed you were about 16 or 17, as I think your perspective is skewed a bit (not trying to be a dick, just being honest).

I think you proved my point again. Nobody benefits from beating a 6-6 Texas Tech team (or Maryland), as nobody cares about those programs. As such, USF will look silly when they lose to TT, but gain nothing when they beat them. We seem to agree.

i knew you were going to say that.. life isnt black or white..there is shades gray

maryland is still p5 and will take president over any g5 win...

6-6 texas tech over any g5 ...thats just a fact (if the g5 isn't top 25)

6-6 ucla over any g5

As a lurking SDSU alum I have to say that playing 6-6 ucla over any g5 is better without a doubt. No debate about it. And yes, I am regretting SDSU not being able to stay in the AAC. It is a better conference IMO hands down and culturally matches SDSU better than the MWC.

My friend, why is it that we agree on every subject except this one? Lets just focus on destroying FS together, huh?

Regarding culture, the AAC has none. Its still new. Doesn't mean it won't be great down the line. With that, I am not sure what the MW culture is either? Brokeback Wyoming? Who knows.

Come come now my good man, your bias is showing! Of course the AAC has a culture, it's anger and defiance! Anger at being just on the outside of an artificial bubble (and some of us were in that bubble for a few years and then booted out!). The P6 Campaign is defiance to that artificial boundary. That's the AAC culture. And whereas the G4 Conferences might be angry, they seem content to scream into the wind and cash their welfare checks. Not so with the AAC or by it's schools.