Looks like the dominoes are starting to fall. Hopefully the 'zOMG BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY" Russian bots keep their yammering down or to another thread so we can all focus. I think we can all agree that anyone breaking the law deserves to be punished. This is the beginning of the end for Trump I think. These 2 and Papa are just the beginning I bet. Papa sang for a month.

(10-30-2017 11:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Looks like the dominoes are starting to fall. Hopefully the 'zOMG BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY" Russian bots keep their yammering down or to another thread so we can all focus. I think we can all agree that anyone breaking the law deserves to be punished. This is the beginning of the end for Trump I think. These 2 and Papa are just the beginning I bet. Papa sang for a month.

We will see

(10-30-2017 11:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Looks like the dominoes are starting to fall. Hopefully the 'zOMG BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY" Russian bots keep their yammering down or to another thread so we can all focus. I think we can all agree that anyone breaking the law deserves to be punished. This is the beginning of the end for Trump I think. These 2 and Papa are just the beginning I bet. Papa sang for a month.

What about breaking bets?

Lol!

Yes we will..... thank god for Mueller or these bastards would have gotten away with it.

(10-30-2017 11:37 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  So after all this time and the untold millions of taxpayers dollars spent on the investigation this is what we get?






Man I bet when "Muh Jester" gets home from school today his mom is going to allow him to have a celebratory Yoo-Hoo with his Little Debbie Swiss Roll.

So, the investigation is over then?

(10-30-2017 11:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Looks like the dominoes are starting to fall. Hopefully the 'zOMG BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY" Russian bots keep their yammering down or to another thread so we can all focus. I think we can all agree that anyone breaking the law deserves to be punished. This is the beginning of the end for Trump I think. These 2 and Papa are just the beginning I bet. Papa sang for a month.

Since you're exhorted us to focus, could you lay out a scenario as to how this ultimately translates into Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election?

I'll hang up and listen.

I'm going to guess that within a week progressives are going to be angry with Mueller and asking why a Bushitler McCheneyburton crony was allowed to run this investigation.

(10-30-2017 11:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Looks like the dominoes are starting to fall. Hopefully the 'zOMG BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY" Russian bots keep their yammering down or to another thread so we can all focus. I think we can all agree that anyone breaking the law deserves to be punished. This is the beginning of the end for Trump I think. These 2 and Papa are just the beginning I bet. Papa sang for a month.

Going to have to be far more than this uncovered for it to remotely threaten the Trump presidency.



MUH Russia!!! MUH Russia!!! MUH Russia!!!

months of investigation.....

tax evasion, etc. against Manafort and associate from prior to campaign and a clueless aide.

Premature ejacu... celebration from the lefties that all but bet their lives Trump was going down

(10-30-2017 11:13 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:46 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:24 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  This nugget

George Papadopolous, 30, entered the guilty plea in a closed courtroom in Washington on Oct. 5, special counsel Robert Mueller’s office announced.

Unlike the just-unsealed indictment against Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and adviser Rick Gates for money laundering and other charges, the single felony count against Papadopolous directly relates to 2016 presidential campaign activity.

Papadopolous admitted to lying to the FBI in January, before Mueller took over the probe, about his contacts with a Russian professor and a representative of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

And did you follow up on how far papadopoulos got with his efforts?

Seems nowhere.

Unpaid position, this guy was working to curry favor with someone over there looking to get an intro of some sort. Got slapped down repeatedly.

Collusion doesn't have to be fruitful my good man. Again, next to no one is saying beyond any doubts that any amount of conclusion or interference by Russia is why H lost or why orange ape won. That's just the right-wing and trump narrative they're trying to push on you. Stop buying it.

And here's the Papa Georges charges.

Take a read, very interesting...
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download

Yea, Papa lied about when he had contact with this professor, and claimed it was before he was part of the campaign.

NOT anything about what he did or was doing, but when he was doing it.

He lied to the FBI about the timing of his convos with a Russian professor...

Really? That’s what we got?!?

Wow.

Where DO they find these people???? He walks into a meeting in DC and claims he is able to arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin! Like Trump needed some 30 year old nobody to arrange it? Sounds more like he was more just trying to hit on the Russian female professor when he was in Italy and the female "Russian National." No pictures in the indictment, so I can't tell. I guess the Russians and the Trump people figured out he was a nobody as nothing happened between April and August 2016.

And this guy was arrested in July. This is not something new.

(10-30-2017 11:14 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:55 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:47 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  I love how leftist like Mach completely ignore all of the numerous illegal acts Hillary and her fellow Dems have committed and yet there has been no special prosecutor named to go after her. Nothing released today has anything to do with Trump or Russia. Big surprise, right. Nothing to do with collusion. Mach's sole purpose in his miserable life these days is to be consumed with Donald Trump's Presidency and his hope it is taken down. Well, so far he is batting 0.00.

This is NOT about Hillary!

Or Trump


And we can say at least not yet on both.

No, not personally yet, but these are people he or his team brought on board to aid in his election. Pretty sure you've all said in the past that the leader has to bear the responsibility for what the people under him did, AMIRITE? Many wanted H jailed for being SOS when Stevens was killed because people under her may have screwed up, AMIRITE again?

You can't have it both ways.

We do want it both ways, but what does this indictment have to do with the Trump Campaign?

b/c their tank is.....

(10-30-2017 11:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:14 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, not personally yet, but these are people he or his team brought on board to aid in his election. Pretty sure you've all said in the past that the leader has to bear the responsibility for what the people under him did, AMIRITE? Many wanted H jailed for being SOS when Stevens was killed because people under her may have screwed up, AMIRITE again?

You can't have it both ways.

We do want it both ways, but what does this indictment have to do with the Trump Campaign?

Other than the fact that trump hired the guy (and papa) and they both worked on this campaign, Nothing. Yet....

So did the podesta group

Care to comment about them

I already have!

Again guys, these repeated attempts to bring in Hillary, the DNC and/or Podesta into this discussion about trump campaign officials acting against our governemnt and the stuff with Papa George just make you look weak and defensive. These are all being covered in numerous other threads.

Not entirely, cause it appears, at least what I’m seeing, that most if not all of manaforts efforts to drum up ridiculous amounts of cash for himself and his alleged accomplice took place while he was affiliated with the Pedo-desta group. Is that not correct?

Now, 75 million will go a long way and last a long time (unless you’re in the NBA, lol) so these activities may have continued up until last week for all I know, but it appears his work with, and earnin’ time was long before Trump even announced he was running.

When he was with the Podesta group. They didn’t get their cut of his take? That’s how these things usually work.

We’ll see...

(10-30-2017 11:32 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Why do you classify him as a Trump campaign official when he was a podesta employee when most of these incidents are alleged to have occurred?

Haha. This

Shoulda kept reading.

And the Papa guy lied to FBI about WHEN he had contact with the Russian professor, not about what he had done. It’s apparently a “calendar issue”... yawn

(10-30-2017 11:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:14 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:55 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Or Trump


And we can say at least not yet on both.

No, not personally yet, but these are people he or his team brought on board to aid in his election. Pretty sure you've all said in the past that the leader has to bear the responsibility for what the people under him did, AMIRITE? Many wanted H jailed for being SOS when Stevens was killed because people under her may have screwed up, AMIRITE again?

You can't have it both ways.

We do want it both ways, but what does this indictment have to do with the Trump Campaign?

Other than the fact that trump hired the guy (and papa) and they both worked on this campaign, Nothing. Yet....

So did the podesta group

Care to comment about them

that's when it's going to get hyper fonzies.....I expect that to start sometime early '18....

just like last night's WS game....

(10-30-2017 11:54 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:26 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:14 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  We do want it both ways, but what does this indictment have to do with the Trump Campaign?

Other than the fact that trump hired the guy (and papa) and they both worked on this campaign, Nothing. Yet....

So did the podesta group

Care to comment about them

I already have!

Again guys, these repeated attempts to bring in Hillary, the DNC and/or Podesta into this discussion about trump campaign officials acting against our governemnt and the stuff with Papa George just make you look weak and defensive. These are all being covered in numerous other threads.

Not entirely, cause it appears, at least what I’m seeing, that most if not all of manaforts efforts to drum up ridiculous amounts of cash for himself and his alleged accomplice took place while he was affiliated with the Pedo-desta group. Is that not correct?

Now, 75 million will go a long way and last a long time (unless you’re in the NBA, lol) so these activities may have continued up until last week for all I know, but it appears his work with, and earnin’ time was long before Trump even announced he was running.

When he was with the Podesta group. They didn’t get their cut of his take? That’s how these things usually work.

We’ll see...

#classicsmacktoadippo

It would be interesting if he pitched the Russian meeting after the arrest. That would imply the Feds were trying to set Trump up

(10-30-2017 11:43 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yes we will..... thank god for Mueller or these bastards would have gotten away with it.

lol

Manafort was already under investigation, apparently.

Mueller got to tie it up to save face on this farce.

Trump or “collusion” appear exactly NOWHERE in any of this...

Falls flat on its face. Splat.

He pitched the meeting and met Putin’s niece....... this is not going to end well. He’s been cooperating for weeks. Also Manafort wasn’t perp walked with guys in FBI windbreakers. That’s a clue too.

(10-30-2017 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He pitched the meeting and met Putin’s niece....... this is not going to end well. He’s been cooperating for weeks. Also Manafort wasn’t perp walked with guys in FBI windbreakers. That’s a clue too.

If Trump and putin are BFFs why on God's green earth would the campaign need a 30 year old lackey with no experience to connect them???

(10-30-2017 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He pitched the meeting and met Putin’s niece....... this is not going to end well. He’s been cooperating for weeks. Also Manafort wasn’t perp walked with guys in FBI windbreakers. That’s a clue too.

Yep, no doubt they are singing. The question is do they have anything of relevance to offer investigators?

It won't end here, but how far it goes up is debatable. If Manafort and Gates were colluding with the Russians to impact the election and Trump didn't know it was happening and didn't know of his past is he still culpable? There is likely no criminality on Trump's behalf in that scenario. Dumb? Yes, but criminal liability there would be a stretch.