(09-16-2017 10:23 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  well at least if Tech meets WKU in the championship game it will be in Ruston this season

That still depends. We beat them last year but the CCG was in Bowling Green. We've got a LONG way to go to even consider being in the CCG.

(09-16-2017 10:44 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  Man, I happened to look at my rep point thing. ALL my neg rep comes from LaCajunsFan. Not that neg rep matters, but where is that guy? Did @ Lafayette win or lose today?

I believe that poster got banned

To me what makes this lose so bad is the fact our inept play calling from our OC. In the 4th with 2nd and 1 we run while LT have 8 men in the box. Perfect down to fake run and throw a short pass for the first down. If we fail u still have 3rd and 1.But no, we play predictable and lose 2-3 yds. With Brohm u could never b sure what play he would call. This kept the defense on their heels. This OC is so predictable.
Then we intercept with about 3:30 and should b playing for a 1st down instead we play run out the clock. Two runs and a pass. They were putting 8 in the box so running was unlikely to work especially with Baker out. I could see one run but after no gain throw the damn ball. They knew what we were going to do and we still did it. Sitting with a friend of mine and I told him what was going to happen after the interception. I looked like a prophet. Game went exactly like I said. Our OC has no imagination. I am so pissed with our offensive play calling. They'll probably throw the players under the bus again after they played their asses off instead of taking most of the blame themselves. I'm through ranting.

What did they say last game about the players?

WKU's HC and our D won this game for Tech.
we couldn't get to your QB at all and your HC decided to shut your passing game down and try to pound the ball down our throats. sent Baker back into the game and got him injured again is mind blowing.
skip called a bad game but your HC outdid him.

(09-16-2017 10:23 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  well at least if Tech meets WKU in the championship game it will be in Ruston this season

If that happens everyone in the east needs to drop to 1aa.

I despise this coach with everything in me. Cannot stand him as a coach or man. Always looking to push responsibility off on the players or anyone other than Stanford

First off congratulation to Tech

Now I read post saying this offense looked better and Boise St like...bull ******* ****! None of those, well it looked better than at Ill. But if it was worth a ****...or maybe I should say coach was worth a ****. There would have been 28 points on the Western side by halftime.

Tech gave Western the middle on every freaking play...not 8 out of 10. Freaking 10 out of 10 Western could have hit a 5 to 10 yard pass on every down. Yet this ******* coach who I DESPISE (I'm not even joking one bit) wants to keep running the ball into the middle of a line with 6 to 8 players. Not only that but they know where the run is going EVERYTIME!

Told my son this game was over, Western loss, with 12+ minutes left and the coach wanted to run clock.....

on those last 3 Western possession (can't call them drives) I though Tech's safety was going to have a heart attack he was so excited....he knew where the run was going 10 seconds before the snap. On a few of them Tech only had 1 player deeper than 5 yards at the snap. Everyone saw it but the Western coaches.

Whoever said Western's offensive played better other than the 4th. You are correct with one correction. No part of those 3 sacks belongs to that offensive line. When the other team knows your play and have 2 or 3 more rushers than blockers...

that's coaching

I despise this coach with everything in me. The only other person more responsible than this coach....the Western AD. The stupid ******* that believe it was a good ideal to hire a coach that was going to take this program in a 100% completely different direction.

Not only that bit a coach that was going to be fired by ND. NoT only that but pay this 35 year old 800k the same Western was paying Brohm. But not only that then let this coach go out and fill his staff with 6 out of 8 coaches that coached in 1aa or D3 last year....

6 out of 8 and 4 of those came from Indiana St. That is 1aa and not a good program at that. Indiana St was coached by Sanford's dad...who was hire along with 3 others from his staff.

Did I say I despise a ******* that totally destroyed this program in 3 freaking weeks. But in all honesty I knew this months ago but was just hoping I was wrong.

Like I said congratulation to Tech on the win and I don't mean to make this sound like a backhand congratulation....

But Western's players did not lose this game tonight. The dumb*** Western coach refused to let them try to win it.

Don't know which I dislike the most right now. Coach or AD

I wanted you to be wrong after EKU. I wanted this coach to be playing safe to bust out some major plays against major opponents. But you called it and you were right and I jumped off the Sanford train after Illinois. This just confirmed it.

Congrats Dawgs

Bowling Green....the Turkey has landed.
That's one small step for Mike Sanford, Jr......
One Giant Leap Backwards for WKU Football.

Well, new coaches are always a roll of the dice. Hope he has a small buyout.

WKUYG, go back and watch the recording, 2 of the 3 sacks Ferguson just beat the tackle.

Baker was running effectively and Tech couldn't stop him until he got hurt. The coaches shouldn't put him back in the game.

WKU not having Taywon Taylor really hurts because they don't have a WR that can stretch the field.

Tech could have scored at the end if they wanted to, so the missed field goal did not lose the game for them. However the double reverse on second down was a stupid play call and put them in bad spot on third down in the red zone.

WKU has a good shot to win the next three games, then I think they will probably beat ODU and FAU. Their next loss might not be until Vanderbilt, by that time some this naysayer talk will have gone away

(09-17-2017 09:19 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  WKUYG, go back and watch the recording, 2 of the 3 sacks Ferguson just beat the tackle.

Baker was running effectively and Tech couldn't stop him until he got hurt. The coaches shouldn't put him back in the game.

WKU not having Taywon Taylor really hurts because they don't have a WR that can stretch the field.

Tech could have scored at the end if they wanted to, so the missed field goal did not lose the game for them. However the double reverse on second down was a stupid play call and put them in bad spot on third down in the red zone.

It's funny you mentioned the fact that WKU couldn't stretch the field. I think that is true. I never once worried about WKU throwing deep last night. I think that's one of the missing pieces to their offense.

On the other hand, Tech's J'Mar Smith did a really good job of stretching the field most of the night. His 87-yard TD pass to Rhashid Bonnette in the 2nd Qtr and at least two other very deep passes --one dropped by the WR that would have easily been another TD-- served to stretch the defense for Tech. It prevented those WKU DB's from jamming the LOS late in the game when Tech conducted that 91-yd TD drive to pull within 22-20 with 6 min to go.

(09-17-2017 10:00 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:19 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  WKUYG, go back and watch the recording, 2 of the 3 sacks Ferguson just beat the tackle.

Baker was running effectively and Tech couldn't stop him until he got hurt. The coaches shouldn't put him back in the game.

WKU not having Taywon Taylor really hurts because they don't have a WR that can stretch the field.

Tech could have scored at the end if they wanted to, so the missed field goal did not lose the game for them. However the double reverse on second down was a stupid play call and put them in bad spot on third down in the red zone.

It's funny you mentioned the fact that WKU couldn't stretch the field. I think that is true. I never once worried about WKU throwing deep last night. I think that's one of the missing pieces to their offense.

On the other hand, Tech's J'Mar Smith did a really good job of stretching the field most of the night. His 87-yard TD pass to Rhashid Bonnette in the 2nd Qtr and at least two other very deep passes --one dropped by the WR that would have easily been another TD-- served to stretch the defense for Tech. It prevented those WKU DB's from jamming the LOS late in the game when Tech conducted that 91-yd TD drive to pull within 22-20 with 6 min to go.

Dawgxas I know sometimes I might sound crazy but believe me, I'm not. I have zero interest in watching that over....once was enough. Everyone in that stadium (other than Tech fans..they were worried) knew how this turned out with 12 minutes to play and Western's coach decided to run clock instead of a offense that was moving the ball. Baker wasn't beating Tech on the run...he started getting yards because Tech had to play the pass. Once that stopped...ball game, not a freaking injury to a back that gained half of his 79 yards on 4 carries.

Western is not going deep often and it has nothing to do with WR speed. If we do (went twice last night both WR open...drop on one over thrown on the other, three times deep all season) go deep everything is to the side line instead of the middle of the field.

As for Western getting beat deep....

when you are playing 4-2-5 there is zero reason for that to happen over and over and over...scheme causes it. It was also the reason Craft got most of his yards in those last two scoring drives. The middle in a 4-2 is open once you break the line. Western rushed outside and a delay draw or bubble screen works.

Western got out coached.....we have a head coach that thinks it's was a great ideal to turning over complete control to a OC who's first time ever calling a game was this year. This is a quote from him after Western's first game..."I had never did that before. I had to practice calling a game, all summer"

Now mind you we supposedly hired this head coach because our AD thinks he is some kind of offensive genius. He turns over the complete offense to a person that coached wide receivers for 2 years and passing game coordinator for 1 year.... five seasons as wide receivers coach at Eastern Washington.

AS I said Western went from a experience coaching staff to one that 6 out of 8 coached in 1aa or below last year.

Western's DC spent the last 4 years at NC State, where he served as co-special team coordinator. So a A 15-year coaching veteran has made it all the way to co-special team coordinator and it only took him 11 seasons to do that.

EKU went deep on Western as much as Tech....

I would hate to think what would happen to Western this year if the conference was full of pasting QBs, like the last couple. A offense that's averaging 14.5 ppg against two FBS schools that give up a lot of points. And a defense designed for pass coverage...4 dbs and 1 safety that can't stop the deep pass or keep a receiver in front of them.

I would love for this team to make me look like a "the sky is falling, idiot". If it does it's only because this conference has a lot of bad offensive teams. Facing the passing attacks Western faced last year, with this offense....

Western would have been on the receiving end of those 25 point beat downs.

(09-17-2017 11:01 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 10:00 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:19 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  WKUYG, go back and watch the recording, 2 of the 3 sacks Ferguson just beat the tackle.

Baker was running effectively and Tech couldn't stop him until he got hurt. The coaches shouldn't put him back in the game.

WKU not having Taywon Taylor really hurts because they don't have a WR that can stretch the field.

Tech could have scored at the end if they wanted to, so the missed field goal did not lose the game for them. However the double reverse on second down was a stupid play call and put them in bad spot on third down in the red zone.

It's funny you mentioned the fact that WKU couldn't stretch the field. I think that is true. I never once worried about WKU throwing deep last night. I think that's one of the missing pieces to their offense.

On the other hand, Tech's J'Mar Smith did a really good job of stretching the field most of the night. His 87-yard TD pass to Rhashid Bonnette in the 2nd Qtr and at least two other very deep passes --one dropped by the WR that would have easily been another TD-- served to stretch the defense for Tech. It prevented those WKU DB's from jamming the LOS late in the game when Tech conducted that 91-yd TD drive to pull within 22-20 with 6 min to go.

Dawgxas I know sometimes I might sound crazy but believe me, I'm not. I have zero interest in watching that over....once was enough. Everyone in that stadium (other than Tech fans..they were worried) knew how this turned out with 12 minutes to play and Western's coach decided to run clock instead of a offense that was moving the ball. Baker wasn't beating Tech on the run...he started getting yards because Tech had to play the pass. Once that stopped...ball game, not a freaking injury to a back that gained half of his 79 yards on 4 carries.

Western is not going deep often and it has nothing to do with WR speed. If we do (went twice last night both WR open...drop on one over thrown on the other, three times deep all season) go deep everything is to the side line instead of the middle of the field.

As for Western getting beat deep....

when you are playing 4-2-5 there is zero reason for that to happen over and over and over...scheme causes it. It was also the reason Craft got most of his yards in those last two scoring drives. The middle in a 4-2 is open once you break the line. Western rushed outside and a delay draw or bubble screen works.

Western got out coached.....we have a head coach that thinks it's was a great ideal to turning over complete control to a OC who's first time ever calling a game was this year. This is a quote from him after Western's first game..."I had never did that before. I had to practice calling a game, all summer"

Now mind you we supposedly hired this head coach because our AD thinks he is some kind of offensive genius. He turns over the complete offense to a person that coached wide receivers for 2 years and passing game coordinator for 1 year.... five seasons as wide receivers coach at Eastern Washington.

AS I said Western went from a experience coaching staff to one that 6 out of 8 coached in 1aa or below last year.

Western's DC spent the last 4 years at NC State, where he served as co-special team coordinator. So a A 15-year coaching veteran has made it all the way to co-special team coordinator and it only took him 11 seasons to do that.

EKU went deep on Western as much as Tech....

I would hate to think what would happen to Western this year if the conference was full of pasting QBs, like the last couple. A offense that's averaging 14.5 ppg against two FBS schools that give up a lot of points. And a defense designed for pass coverage...4 dbs and 1 safety that can't stop the deep pass or keep a receiver in front of them.

I would love for this team to make me look like a "the sky is falling, idiot". If it does it's only because this conference has a lot of bad offensive teams. Facing the passing attacks Western faced last year, with this offense....

Western would have been on the receiving end of those 25 point beat downs.

(09-17-2017 11:01 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 10:00 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:19 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  WKUYG, go back and watch the recording, 2 of the 3 sacks Ferguson just beat the tackle.

Baker was running effectively and Tech couldn't stop him until he got hurt. The coaches shouldn't put him back in the game.

WKU not having Taywon Taylor really hurts because they don't have a WR that can stretch the field.

Tech could have scored at the end if they wanted to, so the missed field goal did not lose the game for them. However the double reverse on second down was a stupid play call and put them in bad spot on third down in the red zone.

It's funny you mentioned the fact that WKU couldn't stretch the field. I think that is true. I never once worried about WKU throwing deep last night. I think that's one of the missing pieces to their offense.

On the other hand, Tech's J'Mar Smith did a really good job of stretching the field most of the night. His 87-yard TD pass to Rhashid Bonnette in the 2nd Qtr and at least two other very deep passes --one dropped by the WR that would have easily been another TD-- served to stretch the defense for Tech. It prevented those WKU DB's from jamming the LOS late in the game when Tech conducted that 91-yd TD drive to pull within 22-20 with 6 min to go.

Dawgxas I know sometimes I might sound crazy but believe me, I'm not. I have zero interest in watching that over....once was enough. Everyone in that stadium (other than Tech fans..they were worried) knew how this turned out with 12 minutes to play and Western's coach decided to run clock instead of a offense that was moving the ball. Baker wasn't beating Tech on the run...he started getting yards because Tech had to play the pass. Once that stopped...ball game, not a freaking injury to a back that gained half of his 79 yards on 4 carries.

Western is not going deep often and it has nothing to do with WR speed. If we do (went twice last night both WR open...drop on one over thrown on the other, three times deep all season) go deep everything is to the side line instead of the middle of the field.

As for Western getting beat deep....

when you are playing 4-2-5 there is zero reason for that to happen over and over and over...scheme causes it. It was also the reason Craft got most of his yards in those last two scoring drives. The middle in a 4-2 is open once you break the line. Western rushed outside and a delay draw or bubble screen works.

Western got out coached.....we have a head coach that thinks it's was a great ideal to turning over complete control to a OC who's first time ever calling a game was this year. This is a quote from him after Western's first game..."I had never did that before. I had to practice calling a game, all summer"

Now mind you we supposedly hired this head coach because our AD thinks he is some kind of offensive genius. He turns over the complete offense to a person that coached wide receivers for 2 years and passing game coordinator for 1 year.... five seasons as wide receivers coach at Eastern Washington.

AS I said Western went from a experience coaching staff to one that 6 out of 8 coached in 1aa or below last year.

Western's DC spent the last 4 years at NC State, where he served as co-special team coordinator. So a A 15-year coaching veteran has made it all the way to co-special team coordinator and it only took him 11 seasons to do that.

EKU went deep on Western as much as Tech....

I would hate to think what would happen to Western this year if the conference was full of pasting QBs, like the last couple. A offense that's averaging 14.5 ppg against two FBS schools that give up a lot of points. And a defense designed for pass coverage...4 dbs and 1 safety that can't stop the deep pass or keep a receiver in front of them.

I would love for this team to make me look like a "the sky is falling, idiot". If it does it's only because this conference has a lot of bad offensive teams. Facing the passing attacks Western faced last year, with this offense....

Western would have been on the receiving end of those 25 point beat downs.

Thanks for the breakdown Guns. I went to the game and watched the first quarter and a few minutes. I left to go to my h.s. Reunion out at the Carroll Knicely Center. Had a much better time than if I'd stayed. By the time I had walked to my car on Ky Street to head out Tech had thrown an 87 yard bomb and all I could think was how tf do you get behind all those damn defensive backs.


I know some of the clowns are pisssed at me and you for our take on this staff from week 1 but they've been idiots about everything related to sports anyway. I don't know why I watch is press conference because they just end up pisssing me off worse. If he justifies another loss by saying we did it last year I'll wanna throw a shoe at him like that dude did with Bush.

He likes to keep comparing to last year well his asss better win about 8 of the next 9 games. This fool has wasted the easiest schedule Western has had in years. His staff is a joke. Junior Adams is a lost as Gilligan and the Skpper were.

His dad's special teams are anything but special. Sanford comes from a losing family. He's surrounded himself with losing assistants. You know he's going to his dad for advice and what can he give him other than how to lose at the fcs level?

I don't think we beat Ball State next week. Ball State gave a bad Illinois team a lot better game than we did. We are stuck with this dude for awhile.

He needs to do what Arky State's coach did last year and yank the damn headset from Junior. He's supposed to be an 'offensive genius' so let's see it. The offense ran through Brohm when he was here. Let Junior go coach wide receivers again.

Amen to that. U would think they could at least look at tapes of Western's last years offense and learn a little something even if there is a difference in the personnel. Probably too proud. Gotta do it their way or no way at all. Beginning to wish I hadn't bought my Vanderbilt tickets yet. They'play beat the dogs##t out of us. B lucky to score anything.

(09-17-2017 12:05 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 10:23 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  well at least if Tech meets WKU in the championship game it will be in Ruston this season

If that happens everyone in the east needs to drop to 1aa.

I despise this coach with everything in me. Cannot stand him as a coach or man. Always looking to push responsibility off on the players or anyone other than Stanford

First off congratulation to Tech

Now I read post saying this offense looked better and Boise St like...bull ******* ****! None of those, well it looked better than at Ill. But if it was worth a ****...or maybe I should say coach was worth a ****. There would have been 28 points on the Western side by halftime.

Tech gave Western the middle on every freaking play...not 8 out of 10. Freaking 10 out of 10 Western could have hit a 5 to 10 yard pass on every down. Yet this ******* coach who I DESPISE (I'm not even joking one bit) wants to keep running the ball into the middle of a line with 6 to 8 players. Not only that but they know where the run is going EVERYTIME!

Told my son this game was over, Western loss, with 12+ minutes left and the coach wanted to run clock.....

on those last 3 Western possession (can't call them drives) I though Tech's safety was going to have a heart attack he was so excited....he knew where the run was going 10 seconds before the snap. On a few of them Tech only had 1 player deeper than 5 yards at the snap. Everyone saw it but the Western coaches.

Whoever said Western's offensive played better other than the 4th. You are correct with one correction. No part of those 3 sacks belongs to that offensive line. When the other team knows your play and have 2 or 3 more rushers than blockers...

that's coaching

I despise this coach with everything in me. The only other person more responsible than this coach....the Western AD. The stupid ******* that believe it was a good ideal to hire a coach that was going to take this program in a 100% completely different direction.

Not only that bit a coach that was going to be fired by ND. NoT only that but pay this 35 year old 800k the same Western was paying Brohm. But not only that then let this coach go out and fill his staff with 6 out of 8 coaches that coached in 1aa or D3 last year....

6 out of 8 and 4 of those came from Indiana St. That is 1aa and not a good program at that. Indiana St was coached by Sanford's dad...who was hire along with 3 others from his staff.

Did I say I despise a ******* that totally destroyed this program in 3 freaking weeks. But in all honesty I knew this months ago but was just hoping I was wrong.

Like I said congratulation to Tech on the win and I don't mean to make this sound like a backhand congratulation....

But Western's players did not lose this game tonight. The dumb*** Western coach refused to let them try to win it.

Don't know which I dislike the most right now. Coach or AD

A lot of that sounds eerily familiar to our year with e12LOSS. Hope it isn't that bad for you guys. That was miserable.

WKU - great game guys. Yall wont be down long.

during halftime of our game i pulled this game up on my phone and saw the wku guy score on the sweep to go up 10. I said, well this ones over.
When i saw the final i was shocked. I hope skip used plenty of ky. A man can hurt himself bad pulling one out of his hiney that big.