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(09-14-2018 11:57 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  So far, I have CBS SN in the lowest package with Direct TV Now. If anyone signs up as a new customer with them on the lowest tier, let me know if you get CBS SN.

Ok...so today they took away CBSSN from me, they cleaned up the package descrepancy. Took get CBSSN on DirecTV Now you need the $65 tier.
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(09-29-2018 07:54 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(09-14-2018 11:57 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  So far, I have CBS SN in the lowest package with Direct TV Now. If anyone signs up as a new customer with them on the lowest tier, let me know if you get CBS SN.

Ok...so today they took away CBSSN from me, they cleaned up the package descrepancy. Took get CBSSN on DirecTV Now you need the $65 tier.

Stinks.
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Quote:AT&T promised at the beginning of the year that it would be launching a real, standards-based 5G network at the end of 2018, and during its latest earning call, CEO John Donovan confirmed those plans, promising that the network would be launching “in the next few weeks,” via Phone Scoop.

This would be an authentic next-generation 5G network, unlike the “5G Evolution” network that it rolled out last year, which essentially amounted to the same 4G LTE improvements that its competitors were doing under some creative branding.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/1801...ork-launch

5G rollout continues to be slow. The big 3 (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile) have promised 2018 for rollout to get people to buy into their platforms. Most of their products (anything older than 6 months) are not yet enabled for it.

For mobile broadband against cable internet delivery, speed and cost aren't the real issue anymore as much as the data caps. Streaming for as little as 20 hours a week is going to require 200GB to support it, way over the 22GB-50GB data caps by the mobile broadband companies.

Yes they still give you some data after those caps but its unworkable during peak times (even within the cap using 4G). Data caps need to be bumped up to 500GB before it becomes a plausible alternative to home internet.
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Quote:Hulu is now seeing Starz: The streamer reached a deal with the Lionsgate-owned premium TV network to offer Starz as an option to customers on any of Hulu’s subscription plans.

Starting Tuesday, Oct. 23, Hulu subscribers can add Starz for $8.99 per month, the same price it’s available for directly and through Amazon, Sling TV and YouTube TV (while AT&T’s DirecTV Now charges $8 monthly for Starz).

With the Starz add-on, Hulu customers will have access to the network’s live Starz and Starz Encore channels along with their full on-demand catalogs featuring current and past seasons of original series including “Outlander,” “Power,” “Vida,” “Counterpart” and “American Gods.” Starz also offers movies such as “Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle” and “Spider-Man: Homecoming” through its output deal with Sony Pictures as well as original documentaries.

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hu...202989000/

Pretty big news for Hulu. They just picked up carriage rights to Starz. They now have carriage for HBO, Cinemax, Showtime and Starz something only Sling and Direct TV Now the more established players are able to offer.

Hulu also has 66 channels at the $40 price point compared to 46 for Sling (also no CBS Sports). Premium channels are nice with Hulu. The Showtime add-on has 16 channels. Comcast by comparison only 6 channels with its Showtime add-on.

Another thing Hulu has is a studio with original programming so its like having an extra premium channel when you go with them.
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Does someone maintain a channel comparison guide in a grid so that it's easy to compare who has what?
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For live sports I think the market is settling out right around $25 dollars for it.

As an example you can get Philo TV for $20 dollars but it has no sport channels. Go to $44 dollars with Hulu Live TV and you get the sports. Comcast will charge you $20 extra every day price to get into a tier with the sports pack but then they'll tack another $8 on to that for a regional broadcast fee.

Eventually I think most people will be looking at about $150 a month all inclusive for content instead of the $200-$250 they are paying now.

Broadband Internet (500GB) -$60
EIP on the mobile device -$25
IPTV with 2 premiums -$60

The consumer is going to have an all-in-one mobile broadband device with enough data to cover home needs. IPTV is settling around the $40 dollar price point with sports but people will do a couple of add ons in addition to it.
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(10-24-2018 11:58 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Does someone maintain a channel comparison guide in a grid so that it's easy to compare who has what?

I think Solohawks did one. You’ll have message Solohwaks to get it.
Are looking into comparing just sports channels or all channels?
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
(09-29-2018 07:54 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(09-14-2018 11:57 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  So far, I have CBS SN in the lowest package with Direct TV Now. If anyone signs up as a new customer with them on the lowest tier, let me know if you get CBS SN.

Ok...so today they took away CBSSN from me, they cleaned up the package descrepancy. Took get CBSSN on DirecTV Now you need the $65 tier.

(10-25-2018 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-24-2018 11:58 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Does someone maintain a channel comparison guide in a grid so that it's easy to compare who has what?

I think Solohawks did one. You’ll have message Solohwaks to get it.
Are looking into comparing just sports channels or all channels?

I do have one but I haven't updated it in awhile. Need to do so
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(10-25-2018 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-24-2018 11:58 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Does someone maintain a channel comparison guide in a grid so that it's easy to compare who has what?

I think Solohawks did one. You’ll have message Solohwaks to get it.
Are looking into comparing just sports channels or all channels?

I am interested in alll channels.
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Good news: Ps Vue has added the Tennis Channel and Staidum

Bad News: it is not in the $50 plan with all the other sports channels but in the $60 plan.
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(10-31-2018 11:57 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Good news: Ps Vue has added the Tennis Channel and Staidum

Bad News: it is not in the $50 plan with all the other sports channels but in the $60 plan.

Thanks! I’ve updated PSVUE with Stadium at the $60 level.
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(10-25-2018 09:24 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-24-2018 11:58 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Does someone maintain a channel comparison guide in a grid so that it's easy to compare who has what?

I think Solohawks did one. You’ll have message Solohwaks to get it.
Are looking into comparing just sports channels or all channels?

I am interested in alll channels.

Still have your idea in mind, I’m slowly working on it when I get the chance. Anybody else can help out if you like.
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(11-01-2018 07:23 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 09:24 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-24-2018 11:58 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Does someone maintain a channel comparison guide in a grid so that it's easy to compare who has what?

I think Solohawks did one. You’ll have message Solohwaks to get it.
Are looking into comparing just sports channels or all channels?

I am interested in alll channels.

Still have your idea in mind, I’m slowly working on it when I get the chance. Anybody else can help out if you like.

Here is a link I found that might be helpful.

https://www.fomopop.com/guides/live-tv-s...g/channels

EDIT: PlayStation Vue is between Philo and Sling TV on the chart. For some reason the title is not showing up on the chart.
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(11-01-2018 09:47 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:23 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 09:24 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-24-2018 11:58 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Does someone maintain a channel comparison guide in a grid so that it's easy to compare who has what?

I think Solohawks did one. You’ll have message Solohwaks to get it.
Are looking into comparing just sports channels or all channels?

I am interested in alll channels.

Still have your idea in mind, I’m slowly working on it when I get the chance. Anybody else can help out if you like.

Here is a link I found that might be helpful.

https://www.fomopop.com/guides/live-tv-s...g/channels

EDIT: PlayStation Vue is between Philo and Sling TV on the chart. For some reason the title is not showing up on the chart.

That's what I was looking for! Thanks!
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(11-01-2018 11:09 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 09:47 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:23 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 09:24 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I think Solohawks did one. You’ll have message Solohwaks to get it.
Are looking into comparing just sports channels or all channels?

I am interested in alll channels.

Still have your idea in mind, I’m slowly working on it when I get the chance. Anybody else can help out if you like.

Here is a link I found that might be helpful.

https://www.fomopop.com/guides/live-tv-s...g/channels

EDIT: PlayStation Vue is between Philo and Sling TV on the chart. For some reason the title is not showing up on the chart.

That's what I was looking for! Thanks!

No problem! I have been helping my folks look into cord cutting solutions, and this came up recently on a search. Personally, I vouch for Hulu with live TV, but if you want the most channels, perhaps DirectTV is more your style. Hulu TV also gets you some of the ESPN College Sports extra channels on Saturdays which give you more football options.
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(11-01-2018 09:47 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  
(11-01-2018 07:23 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 09:24 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(10-25-2018 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-24-2018 11:58 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Does someone maintain a channel comparison guide in a grid so that it's easy to compare who has what?

I think Solohawks did one. You’ll have message Solohwaks to get it.
Are looking into comparing just sports channels or all channels?

I am interested in alll channels.

Still have your idea in mind, I’m slowly working on it when I get the chance. Anybody else can help out if you like.

Here is a link I found that might be helpful.

https://www.fomopop.com/guides/live-tv-s...g/channels

EDIT: PlayStation Vue is between Philo and Sling TV on the chart. For some reason the title is not showing up on the chart.

+3

I'll add the link to the OP.

Thanks!!
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Quote:AT&T promised at the beginning of the year that it would be launching a real, standards-based 5G network at the end of 2018, and during its latest earning call, CEO John Donovan confirmed those plans, promising that the network would be launching “in the next few weeks,” via Phone Scoop.

This would be an authentic next-generation 5G network, unlike the “5G Evolution” network that it rolled out last year, which essentially amounted to the same 4G LTE improvements that its competitors were doing under some creative branding.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/1801...ork-launch

5G rollout continues to be slow. The big 3 (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile) have promised 2018 for rollout to get people to buy into their platforms. Most of their products (anything older than 6 months) are not yet enabled for it.

For mobile broadband against cable internet delivery, speed and cost aren't the real issue anymore as much as the data caps. Streaming for as little as 20 hours a week is going to require 200GB to support it, way over the 22GB-50GB data caps by the mobile broadband companies.

Yes they still give you some data after those caps but its unworkable during peak times (even within the cap using 4G). Data caps need to be bumped up to 500GB before it becomes a plausible alternative to home internet.

Speaking of that. T-Mobile was suppose to rollout their own OTT TV package when the bought Layer3. I haven't found anything stating when they will go live just that they still plan on rolling it out by 2018.

Maybe it will be in conjunction with their 5G towers coming online.
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(11-01-2018 02:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(10-24-2018 08:36 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
Quote:AT&T promised at the beginning of the year that it would be launching a real, standards-based 5G network at the end of 2018, and during its latest earning call, CEO John Donovan confirmed those plans, promising that the network would be launching “in the next few weeks,” via Phone Scoop.

This would be an authentic next-generation 5G network, unlike the “5G Evolution” network that it rolled out last year, which essentially amounted to the same 4G LTE improvements that its competitors were doing under some creative branding.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/1801...ork-launch

5G rollout continues to be slow. The big 3 (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile) have promised 2018 for rollout to get people to buy into their platforms. Most of their products (anything older than 6 months) are not yet enabled for it.

For mobile broadband against cable internet delivery, speed and cost aren't the real issue anymore as much as the data caps. Streaming for as little as 20 hours a week is going to require 200GB to support it, way over the 22GB-50GB data caps by the mobile broadband companies.

Yes they still give you some data after those caps but its unworkable during peak times (even within the cap using 4G). Data caps need to be bumped up to 500GB before it becomes a plausible alternative to home internet.

Speaking of that. T-Mobile was suppose to rollout their own OTT TV package when the bought Layer3. I haven't found anything stating when they will go live just that they still plan on rolling it out by 2018.

Maybe it will be in conjunction with their 5G towers coming online.

Layer3 requires DSL. The Layer3 box connects directly into your cable modem.

Its IPTV with a cable form of delivery basically. Minimum price is $90 including the box. Its designed to compete against high end cable packages and not those wanting to save money cutting the cord.
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Quote:Verizon has overhauled its prepaid plans and has a very pleasant surprise in store - they are offering a prepaid Unlimited Jetpack/Tablet plan for $65/month with autopay discount, with no high speed data caps!

Yes, you heard that right, Verizon once again has an unlimited data plan with no throttle for data-only devices (but see all the details and caveats below).

https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/verizon...-jetpacks/

Unlimited unthrottled jetpacks are a potential replacement of home internet even at the 4G level but of course its not going to be as good as a 200 mpbs DSL connection.

Quote:5G is here, and it’s going to change everything. From the way you communicate to the way you game.

And it all starts with Verizon 5G Home with speed of about 300 Mbps. It’s the first ever 5G-powered home internet that can connect all your devices. It’s ultra-fast internet that’s ready for what comes next.

https://www.verizonwireless.com/5g/home/

The jetpack model seems like its not going to be the home internet model in the the future with Verizon unrolling 5G in limited markets with a home internet device (looks like a new generation home wifi router).

When they say limited market rollout they mean "limited" market rollout.

The density of 5G receivers has to be about 1 a block to be effective compared with a fraction of the density needed with 4G. If you live in a municipality where its sluggish getting any telecom upgrades done forget about 5G anytime soon.

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Hulu is available until Monday for $.99/month for 12 months. This doesnt include Live TV but includes their commercial on demand package. A great deal
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