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(06-12-2017 11:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  If 10 years in prison did not rehab this woman no amount will.....

you have to want to stop before any rehab will work and a forced 10 years didn't.

As to the clemency this woman should not have got a life sentence in the first place. Any dealing she was doing was nickle and dime ****. But most drug dealers are addicts. And the ******* conspiracy laws are so loosely defined....

it wouldn't take much to get any of us. Lets put it this way. If you drive a friend to walmart and they buy Sudafed and that person trade or sells it to someone making meth. You are now part of that conspiracy. I had a brother in law that this happened to and he had no ideal what his cousin was buying or the persons house he dropped him off at was being watched and busted. The cops took the bag with 2 packages of Sudafed and the walmart receipt and went to walmart and watched video of this person get out of my brother in laws car and go into walmart and back to his car

My brother in law is a straight shooter....never even had a ticket before. He was indited along with 22 others. In the end his cousin plead out for 5 years (federal) and my brother in law was dropped from the conspiracy. It cost him 10k, a week in jail, lost his job of 10 years

This is my Democrat part coming out.....most republican will say lock them up and forget about you. Then they will **** a brick on getting rid of most welfare programs. It cost less paying for housing, food and a freaking welfare check than it does to lock that dope head up for a year.

It's time to stop locking up people with a addiction for 7 years to life just because of conspiracy laws. Sure, go after those making their living selling the ****. But we need to find a better way than locking up addicts if there's not another violent crime with it.

I know the argument..let them on the streets and one day they might kill or hurt someone real bad. Yes that might happen on a few. But we have to find something better than prison.
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"Cocaine is a hell of a drug."
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being born isn't a crime, jail isn't the answer, people will always do drugs
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I'm 100% for anyone dealing to receive a good prison term. These people are killers. They destroy families through the drugs, through their inattention to their children and through the murdering that takes place. Not to mention that children see them making big dough and they too start selling them. It's a vicious cycle and to me it's not the money that is spent incarcerating these pieces of crap it's the destruction that they carry. They're like vermin in the Middle Ages who carried the Bubonic Plague, nothing good comes from their actions, only loss.

I'd do it this way: Stop and Frisk and jail dealers. Two things that will HELP. Notice I didn't say eliminate, it'll never go away.
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(06-12-2017 07:55 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  
(06-12-2017 02:30 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  [Image: SG-Obama-SG-Mugshot-Carol-Denise-Richardson.png]

America's most promising..... Thanks Barry!!

Yikes. Michelle has really let herself go.
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(06-13-2017 08:35 AM)Lush Wrote:  being born isn't a crime, jail isn't the answer, people will always do drugs

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. That's from somebody who's done his fair amount of drugs in my 20's.

What's the "being born isn't a crime" got to do with anything?
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(06-13-2017 04:02 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(06-13-2017 08:35 AM)Lush Wrote:  being born isn't a crime, jail isn't the answer, people will always do drugs

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. That's from somebody who's done his fair amount of drugs in my 20's.

What's the "being born isn't a crime" got to do with anything?

this is merely pure speculation, but someone born into poverty's circle has a greater chance to succumb to the ill's of society
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(06-13-2017 04:19 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(06-13-2017 04:02 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(06-13-2017 08:35 AM)Lush Wrote:  being born isn't a crime, jail isn't the answer, people will always do drugs

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. That's from somebody who's done his fair amount of drugs in my 20's.

What's the "being born isn't a crime" got to do with anything?

this is merely pure speculation, but someone born into poverty's circle has a greater chance to succumb to the ill's of society

Sure they do but nobody's making them do drugs.
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(06-13-2017 04:19 PM)Lush Wrote:  ... but someone born into poverty's circle has a greater chance to succumb to the ill's of society

So the solution is sterilization?
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(06-12-2017 02:28 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  What a Legacy this chump has

Yep. Pathetic
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(06-13-2017 03:30 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I'm 100% for anyone dealing to receive a good prison term. These people are killers. They destroy families through the drugs, through their inattention to their children and through the murdering that takes place. Not to mention that children see them making big dough and they too start selling them. It's a vicious cycle and to me it's not the money that is spent incarcerating these pieces of crap it's the destruction that they carry. They're like vermin in the Middle Ages who carried the Bubonic Plague, nothing good comes from their actions, only loss.

I'd do it this way: Stop and Frisk and jail dealers. Two things that will HELP. Notice I didn't say eliminate, it'll never go away.

have you thrown your support behind the arrest of your local bartender?
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(06-13-2017 04:21 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  
(06-13-2017 04:19 PM)Lush Wrote:  ... but someone born into poverty's circle has a greater chance to succumb to the ill's of society

So the solution is sterilization?

the options are jail or sterilization?
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I've been sterilized. It's lovely. Way better than jail. Spent a night or two in the hoosgow.
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