(06-10-2017 03:53 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 03:13 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The C-USA and SBC schools, particularly LA Tech, need to just face the fact that they are all essentially playing at the same level and that they are better off working together, reorganizing their memberships to create an Eastern Conference and a Western one. The MAC has always been a regional conference with a tight conference footprint and things work just fine for them.

Both sides have a lot to gain in boosting paid attendence by facing more regional rivals and saving money in travel expenses

Has there ever been a case where two conferences worked together in such a manner? Why would we think it's going to happen now?

If you are going to try to form a new conference from these two, why not try to make the strongest conference? You could make a league with two geographically rational divisions that would arguably be more like the AAC and MWC, and clearly better than the MAC and the CUSA and SBC leftovers.

For example:

East: App State, Marshall, Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee, Georgia Southern and Coastal Carolina.

West: Arkansas St, ULL, Troy, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech and Rice.

Problem is that you have an eastern school in the west, and that is Troy. James Madison and Old Dominion are the better teams to go in the east instead of Coastal Carolina.

(06-10-2017 02:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  North Alabama have asked the SBC to join them back in like 2011 or 2012 year. For sure that we know that wanted FBS status.

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Uh, FALSE.

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Now, if more see they moved up? Others might want to do the same.
Chattanooga, Towson, East Tennessee State, Villanova (just to stay with the P5 schools if there becomes a 1A and 1AA in basketball), Richmond, VCU could pull the trigger to add football and so forth.
There are schools not D1 yet that are aiming for FBS already.
Texas A&M-San Antonio
Texas A&M-Central Texas
Hawaii-West Oahu (could help Hawaii out in the future)?

With that said, G5 may have to go regional, and La Tech could be in a conference without La.-Monroe as well.
If MVFC could move up as a whole? They could be a semi-power conference along with AAC and MWC. Could take the best of the rest of C-USA, MAC and SBC with a couple of Powerful FCS schools to create a Semi-Power conference for 4. Then, reformed the G5 to include CAA, Big Sky, Southland and Southern.

As for the rest, here's a great idea. Let's do away with divisions and make everyone D1; you don't even need to have athletics or be a 4-year school. Just come on down and watch your money being printed!

(06-10-2017 02:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  North Alabama have asked the SBC to join them back in like 2011 or 2012 year. For sure that we know that wanted FBS status.

North Alabama maybe Kennesaw State will make their way up there with them.
Jacksonville State
Stony Brook
Delaware would want FBS if James Madison goes.
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFA
Eastern Kentucky
Northern Iowa
Missouri State will go to FBS since MVC is weak now.
Wichita State
Youngstown State
Illinois State
Indiana State

Now, if more see they moved up? Others might want to do the same.
Chattanooga, Towson, East Tennessee State, Villanova (just to stay with the P5 schools if there becomes a 1A and 1AA in basketball), Richmond, VCU could pull the trigger to add football and so forth.
There are schools not D1 yet that are aiming for FBS already.
Texas A&M-San Antonio
Texas A&M-Central Texas
Hawaii-West Oahu (could help Hawaii out in the future)?

With that said, G5 may have to go regional, and La Tech could be in a conference without La.-Monroe as well.
If MVFC could move up as a whole? They could be a semi-power conference along with AAC and MWC. Could take the best of the rest of C-USA, MAC and SBC with a couple of Powerful FCS schools to create a Semi-Power conference for 4. Then, reformed the G5 to include CAA, Big Sky, Southland and Southern.

you have become a parody of yourself which is pretty terrible

TAMU-SA and TAMU-Central Texas are not even full 4 year schools they are Jr and Sr only and they have enrollments of 4,564 and 2,466

here is the 190 page TAMU-SA master plan

http://www.tamusa.edu/uploadFile/folders...t_Plan.pdf

the word football is not mentioned 1 time in that plan and if you look at the images those are soccer fields not football fields

here is the TAMU Central Texas plan

https://www.tamuct.edu/files/docs/financeadmin/CDP.pdf

here is what it says

They propose a football stadium that, over time, might have a seating capacity of up to 15,000 persons. This would be at full build-out and would be constructed in increments appropriate to demand.

so you are trying to say that one university that does not mention the word football one time in their 190 page master plan and another university that mentions a football stajium that AT FULL BUILD OUT would seat 15,000 are aspiring to play D1-A football?

at this point I am surprised you left off UHCL, north Texas state dallas and UH-Victoria and UH Downtown (they could play in the Dynamo stajium like Texas Southern)

Ripping up and starting over is NOT attractive or practical. Merge C-USA with the Sunbelt. It's the only way we can compete with the AAC. The gap in revenues is not that far apart.

I would prefer that we grabbed Ark State, App State, GSU, and ULaLa and split into 3 DIVISIONS or 6 schools. Get a waiver for a 4-team conference playoff.
Appy State
Marshall
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee
Charlotte
Old Dominion

Florida Atlantic
Florida International
UAB
GSU
USM
Louisiana Tech

ULaLa
Texas-El Paso
North Texas
Rice
Texas-San Antonio
Arkansas State

I originally had Troy in that central division (because they beat us in football (proved their worth in my book)), but I learned that App State won't go anywhere without GSU, so sorry Troy (UAB probably didn't want you around anyway). The middle division is less-compact geographically than the other 2, but overall I'm pretty sure you would save a ton.

(06-11-2017 05:32 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 02:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  North Alabama have asked the SBC to join them back in like 2011 or 2012 year. For sure that we know that wanted FBS status.

North Alabama maybe Kennesaw State will make their way up there with them.
Jacksonville State
Stony Brook
Delaware would want FBS if James Madison goes.
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFA
Eastern Kentucky
Northern Iowa
Missouri State will go to FBS since MVC is weak now.
Wichita State
Youngstown State
Illinois State
Indiana State

Now, if more see they moved up? Others might want to do the same.
Chattanooga, Towson, East Tennessee State, Villanova (just to stay with the P5 schools if there becomes a 1A and 1AA in basketball), Richmond, VCU could pull the trigger to add football and so forth.
There are schools not D1 yet that are aiming for FBS already.
Texas A&M-San Antonio
Texas A&M-Central Texas
Hawaii-West Oahu (could help Hawaii out in the future)?

With that said, G5 may have to go regional, and La Tech could be in a conference without La.-Monroe as well.
If MVFC could move up as a whole? They could be a semi-power conference along with AAC and MWC. Could take the best of the rest of C-USA, MAC and SBC with a couple of Powerful FCS schools to create a Semi-Power conference for 4. Then, reformed the G5 to include CAA, Big Sky, Southland and Southern.

you have become a parody of yourself which is pretty terrible

TAMU-SA and TAMU-Central Texas are not even full 4 year schools they are Jr and Sr only and they have enrollments of 4,564 and 2,466

here is the 190 page TAMU-SA master plan

http://www.tamusa.edu/uploadFile/folders...t_Plan.pdf

the word football is not mentioned 1 time in that plan and if you look at the images those are soccer fields not football fields

here is the TAMU Central Texas plan

https://www.tamuct.edu/files/docs/financeadmin/CDP.pdf

here is what it says

They propose a football stadium that, over time, might have a seating capacity of up to 15,000 persons. This would be at full build-out and would be constructed in increments appropriate to demand.

so you are trying to say that one university that does not mention the word football one time in their 190 page master plan and another university that mentions a football stajium that AT FULL BUILD OUT would seat 15,000 are aspiring to play D1-A football?

at this point I am surprised you left off UHCL, north Texas state dallas and UH-Victoria and UH Downtown (they could play in the Dynamo stajium like Texas Southern)

http://www.tamusa.edu/about/future-development.html

Look at the bottom drawing when they hit 25,000 students. There is a drawing plans for a football stadium.

On the Wiki page for Central Texas had the future football stadium plans for 30,000 seats. Why build that big of a stadium if you are planning to go to the top?

(06-11-2017 03:13 AM)AZcats Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 02:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  North Alabama have asked the SBC to join them back in like 2011 or 2012 year. For sure that we know that wanted FBS status.

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Uh, FALSE.

Quote:...

Now, if more see they moved up? Others might want to do the same.
Chattanooga, Towson, East Tennessee State, Villanova (just to stay with the P5 schools if there becomes a 1A and 1AA in basketball), Richmond, VCU could pull the trigger to add football and so forth.
There are schools not D1 yet that are aiming for FBS already.
Texas A&M-San Antonio
Texas A&M-Central Texas
Hawaii-West Oahu (could help Hawaii out in the future)?

With that said, G5 may have to go regional, and La Tech could be in a conference without La.-Monroe as well.
If MVFC could move up as a whole? They could be a semi-power conference along with AAC and MWC. Could take the best of the rest of C-USA, MAC and SBC with a couple of Powerful FCS schools to create a Semi-Power conference for 4. Then, reformed the G5 to include CAA, Big Sky, Southland and Southern.

As for the rest, here's a great idea. Let's do away with divisions and make everyone D1; you don't even need to have athletics or be a 4-year school. Just come on down and watch your money being printed!

https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/c...on-I_n.htm

http://www.timesdaily.com/archives/una-d...8e6a6.html

So, is West Georgia in the talks to join the A-Sun as well?

It was around this time period between 2011 to 2013 when Sun Belt Conference was expanding that North Alabama tried for a shot to get a spot in the Sun Belt Conference. They wanted a spot in D1 at the time, and OVC were not looking, but Sun Belt Conference was. I think sometime in the future, they may find their way into FBS. They thought they could get into FBS because they had Coach Terry Bowden at the time.

(06-11-2017 03:13 AM)AZcats Wrote:  As for the rest, here's a great idea. Let's do away with divisions and make everyone D1; you don't even need to have athletics or be a 4-year school. Just come on down and watch your money being printed!

How else are we going to fill out the entire 4,096 team NCAA tournament field?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxyPeME9TbI

I agree that it's been a nightmare for CUSA the way they expanded to 14 still without solving geography issues then losing the TV deal.

Throwing out a realignment scenario here...

B1G (Kansas, UConn)
B12 (Houston)
AAC-Stays at 10.

For UMass this would be a death sentence as they'll never get into the AAC as it's now mostly a Midwest basketball conference (SMU, Tulsa, Wichita, Memphis, Cincinnati) plus a couple of Florida schools, ECU, Temple and Tulane.

Then I think it makes sense to push for a new 10 team eastern conference.

Massachusetts
Buffalo
Ohio
Marshall
Old Dominion
Charlotte
Appalachian St.
Georgia St.
Florida Atlantic
Florida International

10 teams to split the revenue less ways than 14 in CUSA/A10 or 12 in MAC/SBC. Could put the conference tournaments in Charlotte which is in the middle of the region. Ohio, Marshall, Old Dominion, App State and Georgia State are all within 4-5 hours of Charlotte so its workable.

A meatball with wings......UMass/Buffalo on the northern wing an FAU/FIU on the southern wing. UMass/Buffalo want the Florida schools for recruiting and the Florida schools want UMass/Buffalo for academics.

Left over G5:

MAC 10 (Don't need to expand)
CUSA 9 (Get back to 10 with Missouri St)
SBC 8 (Back to 10 with NMSU/Liberty FB-only)

Then everyone is sitting at 10 teams in the G5 except for the MWC at 12 with tighter geographies (aside from SBC in FB).

(06-10-2017 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Southern Miss will not be remaining in CDOA in its present form due to geography and its oveerall lack of interest now by the USM fans. Another primary reason is travel cost and it simply makes sense that sending our teams to South Alabama in Mobile or ULL in Lafayette is considerably less than trips to UTEP or the south Florida schools. Winning or losing to any teams in the mix is all the same, actually makes no difference in the overall national scheme of things.

This is strictly a business move and should work well for all until the last big "shakeup" occurs. Nothing against or for any team anywhere and here is the facts:

1. No one wants nor will there be any attempts to "kick anyone out". This will be a simple withdrawal by any team that wants to join the new mix.

2. There will be only a nominal entry fee, just enough to establish the new league and get its feet on the ground. There will be NO exit fees or advance notice for those who want to or can move on in the future.

3. The core schools joining USM could be ULL, ULM, South Ala, Troy, UAB, Ark State, La Tech and perhaps McNeese State....

No reason to read any of this thread beyond "perhaps McNeese State" in post #1. Anyone who would even mention including an FCS school with a budget under $12 million in a new FBS conference has no business creating realignment scenarios.

(06-10-2017 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Southern Miss will not be remaining in CDOA in its present form due to geography and its oveerall lack of interest now by the USM fans. Another primary reason is travel cost and it simply makes sense that sending our teams to South Alabama in Mobile or ULL in Lafayette is considerably less than trips to UTEP or the south Florida schools. Winning or losing to any teams in the mix is all the same, actually makes no difference in the overall national scheme of things.

This is strictly a business move and should work well for all until the last big "shakeup" occurs. Nothing against or for any team anywhere and here is the facts:

1. No one wants nor will there be any attempts to "kick anyone out". This will be a simple withdrawal by any team that wants to join the new mix.

2. There will be only a nominal entry fee, just enough to establish the new league and get its feet on the ground. There will be NO exit fees or advance notice for those who want to or can move on in the future.

3. The core schools joining USM could be ULL, ULM, South Ala, Troy, UAB, Ark State, La Tech and perhaps McNeese State or Rice or both. Who might win or who wont win any national championship has nothing to do with this, its travel expenses only.

NCAA basketball credits will be gone but that means very little since it is spread out so thinly under our current set up. Should be no problem in lining up bowl games, reminants of cdoa would not be competitive in that respect.

Everyone has seen that ULM has a blank OCC schedule after next couple of years, wonder if they have already decided.

Who wants aboard?

Split the SBC and CUSA into Western-based and Eastern-based conferences along the following lines:

Western-based Conference:

UTEP - NMSU
UTSA - Texas State
Rice - N. Texas
LA Tech - Ark State
Louisiana - USM
USA - Troy

Eastern-based Conference:

MT - WKU
Marshall - App State
ODU - Charlotte
GA State - GA Southern
UAB - Coastal Carolina
FIU - FAU

(06-12-2017 08:39 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Southern Miss will not be remaining in CDOA in its present form due to geography and its oveerall lack of interest now by the USM fans. Another primary reason is travel cost and it simply makes sense that sending our teams to South Alabama in Mobile or ULL in Lafayette is considerably less than trips to UTEP or the south Florida schools. Winning or losing to any teams in the mix is all the same, actually makes no difference in the overall national scheme of things.

This is strictly a business move and should work well for all until the last big "shakeup" occurs. Nothing against or for any team anywhere and here is the facts:

1. No one wants nor will there be any attempts to "kick anyone out". This will be a simple withdrawal by any team that wants to join the new mix.

2. There will be only a nominal entry fee, just enough to establish the new league and get its feet on the ground. There will be NO exit fees or advance notice for those who want to or can move on in the future.

3. The core schools joining USM could be ULL, ULM, South Ala, Troy, UAB, Ark State, La Tech and perhaps McNeese State or Rice or both. Who might win or who wont win any national championship has nothing to do with this, its travel expenses only.

NCAA basketball credits will be gone but that means very little since it is spread out so thinly under our current set up. Should be no problem in lining up bowl games, reminants of cdoa would not be competitive in that respect.

Everyone has seen that ULM has a blank OCC schedule after next couple of years, wonder if they have already decided.

Who wants aboard?

Split the SBC and CUSA into Western-based and Eastern-based conferences along the following lines:

Western-based Conference:

UTEP - NMSU
UTSA - Texas State
Rice - N. Texas
LA Tech - Ark State
Louisiana - USM
USA - Troy

Eastern-based Conference:

MT - WKU
Marshall - App State
ODU - Charlotte
GA State - GA Southern
UAB - Coastal Carolina
FIU - FAU

Remove the top six from this Western based conference and replace them with UAB, ULM, and you have what USM is looking at. McNeese State and even Southeastern La have strong baseball and basketball programs, could bring them in for everything except football. La Tech can stay with that western group if they like, would fit in well. The Eastern group looks good and can make it on their own without UAB. If you want to talk about staying with UTEP and bringing in UMSU then why even make a change?

I don't buy into "split" there has to be someone with a crap ton of respect to get the 26 presidents in a room and then get them to buy into a split.

Now if USM called their neighbors up US49 in Arkansas and said we want you to come to a meeting with us, South Alabama, MTSU, Louisiana Lafayette, and say Rice, we've made the arrangements and we are on our way to the meeting.

(06-10-2017 10:11 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Lousiana Tech categorically refuses to be in a conference with ULM.

The primary issue for anyone leaving the SBC or C-USA is the revenue from the CFP. Unless if you have enough schools depart to make either the SBC or C-USA no longer viable as a FBS conference, and therefore replace them as a party to the CFP contract, then no new FBS conference will be formed. This would be difficult to pull off, as even if 10 schools left C-USA, C-USA just invites New Mexico State and Liberty to get to six, then two of Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville State, James Madison, and Missouri State to get back to the FBS minimum of eight.

The other part is the NCAA tournament. Whiel this issue may only last a couple of years, people overlook the "other" NCAA tournament distributions. In addition to the NCAA credits that people are familiar with, the NCAA distributes to conferences a boatload of additional money. For example, C-USA gets about $13 million per year from the NCAA tournament beyond the basketball fund (NCAA credits), and the Sunbelt gets about $10.5 million (note these numbers are from 2015, so the real numbers is likely higher now). Now this money is not discussed because it is not based on team success, and bypasses the AD's athletic budget (it is about $20 million fro the ACC, $18 million for the SEC, and $24 million for the Big Ten for example), and goes directly to student scholarships and programs, but it IS real money, that no one wants to lose.

(06-10-2017 09:50 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  3. trying to get to 12 members

earth to G5 conferences no one really cared about your CCG games back when you had to have 12 teams to have one and you usually lost money on them and now that you do not need to have 12 members to have one even if you want to lose money and have low attendance why are you still trying to get to 12 teams in a conference

all the more so when it is pretty much impossible to get 12 teams in a small region (if you buy into the small region crap that has been dispelled above) that actually give a damn about winning consistently

Not often I agree with ol' Todge, but he is right on the money. There is a certain advantage to a bigger conference to allow you share expenses more efficiently, and I get that, but the goal of such a realignment should NOT be a goal to get to 12 purely for a CCG. A more compact conference that allows you to play everyone, and have more chances to play $$$ OOC in football and basketball, is probably better. Also the smaller the league, the more money per team you make from post season rewards.

(06-10-2017 09:50 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  4. when you are a group of teams that NEEDS $1 million dollars for a P5 game and you NEED to try and maybe get a home and home or a 2-1 with a P5 school (even a bad one) every so often to sell tickets why are you trying to get together with a bunch of teams that have small fan support of their own that that need P5 pay days and 2-1 games and trying to get 12 or 14 of them together so you can play more conference games no one cares about

Nail meets hammer. In a situation where OOC games can make you more money than conference games, a conference of 9 teams (or even 8) might give you a strategic advantage to allow teams to play two buy games, and not be at a competitive disadvantage.

(06-11-2017 09:23 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 05:32 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 02:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  North Alabama have asked the SBC to join them back in like 2011 or 2012 year. For sure that we know that wanted FBS status.

North Alabama maybe Kennesaw State will make their way up there with them.
Jacksonville State
Stony Brook
Delaware would want FBS if James Madison goes.
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFA
Eastern Kentucky
Northern Iowa
Missouri State will go to FBS since MVC is weak now.
Wichita State
Youngstown State
Illinois State
Indiana State

Now, if more see they moved up? Others might want to do the same.
Chattanooga, Towson, East Tennessee State, Villanova (just to stay with the P5 schools if there becomes a 1A and 1AA in basketball), Richmond, VCU could pull the trigger to add football and so forth.
There are schools not D1 yet that are aiming for FBS already.
Texas A&M-San Antonio
Texas A&M-Central Texas
Hawaii-West Oahu (could help Hawaii out in the future)?

With that said, G5 may have to go regional, and La Tech could be in a conference without La.-Monroe as well.
If MVFC could move up as a whole? They could be a semi-power conference along with AAC and MWC. Could take the best of the rest of C-USA, MAC and SBC with a couple of Powerful FCS schools to create a Semi-Power conference for 4. Then, reformed the G5 to include CAA, Big Sky, Southland and Southern.

you have become a parody of yourself which is pretty terrible

TAMU-SA and TAMU-Central Texas are not even full 4 year schools they are Jr and Sr only and they have enrollments of 4,564 and 2,466

here is the 190 page TAMU-SA master plan

http://www.tamusa.edu/uploadFile/folders...t_Plan.pdf

the word football is not mentioned 1 time in that plan and if you look at the images those are soccer fields not football fields

here is the TAMU Central Texas plan

https://www.tamuct.edu/files/docs/financeadmin/CDP.pdf

here is what it says

They propose a football stadium that, over time, might have a seating capacity of up to 15,000 persons. This would be at full build-out and would be constructed in increments appropriate to demand.

so you are trying to say that one university that does not mention the word football one time in their 190 page master plan and another university that mentions a football stajium that AT FULL BUILD OUT would seat 15,000 are aspiring to play D1-A football?

at this point I am surprised you left off UHCL, north Texas state dallas and UH-Victoria and UH Downtown (they could play in the Dynamo stajium like Texas Southern)

http://www.tamusa.edu/about/future-development.html

Look at the bottom drawing when they hit 25,000 students. There is a drawing plans for a football stadium.

On the Wiki page for Central Texas had the future football stadium plans for 30,000 seats. Why build that big of a stadium if you are planning to go to the top?

There are 7 D1-A schools in the Waco-San Antonio-Houston triangle, 3 are P5 and 3 struggle to fill their stadium; and about 10 more D1 schools in east Texas. Where do you propose support comes from for 2 new TAMU system schools that currently have no athletics? Hawai'i-West O'ahu is in the same position as the other two with no athletics and located 20 miles from Hawai'i-Manoa, who also has difficulties filling their stadium.

(06-11-2017 09:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 03:13 AM)AZcats Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 02:04 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  North Alabama have asked the SBC to join them back in like 2011 or 2012 year. For sure that we know that wanted FBS status.

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Uh, FALSE.

Quote:...

Now, if more see they moved up? Others might want to do the same.
Chattanooga, Towson, East Tennessee State, Villanova (just to stay with the P5 schools if there becomes a 1A and 1AA in basketball), Richmond, VCU could pull the trigger to add football and so forth.
There are schools not D1 yet that are aiming for FBS already.
Texas A&M-San Antonio
Texas A&M-Central Texas
Hawaii-West Oahu (could help Hawaii out in the future)?

With that said, G5 may have to go regional, and La Tech could be in a conference without La.-Monroe as well.
If MVFC could move up as a whole? They could be a semi-power conference along with AAC and MWC. Could take the best of the rest of C-USA, MAC and SBC with a couple of Powerful FCS schools to create a Semi-Power conference for 4. Then, reformed the G5 to include CAA, Big Sky, Southland and Southern.

As for the rest, here's a great idea. Let's do away with divisions and make everyone D1; you don't even need to have athletics or be a 4-year school. Just come on down and watch your money being printed!

https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/c...on-I_n.htm

http://www.timesdaily.com/archives/una-d...8e6a6.html

So, is West Georgia in the talks to join the A-Sun as well?

It was around this time period between 2011 to 2013 when Sun Belt Conference was expanding that North Alabama tried for a shot to get a spot in the Sun Belt Conference. They wanted a spot in D1 at the time, and OVC were not looking, but Sun Belt Conference was. I think sometime in the future, they may find their way into FBS. They thought they could get into FBS because they had Coach Terry Bowden at the time.

Still FALSE. One link is dead while the other link is from 5 years ago and never mentions the Sun Belt. The West Georgia mention is nothing more than speculation by someone from North Alabama. Bowden could not care less what division UNA was in, he was there for only 3 years and left after the 2011 season.

I can imagine this conversation:
UNA to SBC - We want to join your conference.
SBC to UNA - ... (later) ... I laughed so hard I peed myself.

(06-11-2017 10:50 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 03:13 AM)AZcats Wrote:  As for the rest, here's a great idea. Let's do away with divisions and make everyone D1; you don't even need to have athletics or be a 4-year school. Just come on down and watch your money being printed!

How else are we going to fill out the entire 4,096 team NCAA tournament field?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxyPeME9TbI

That was too funny. It all makes sense now, David works for the onion sports network.

See the thing posters are ignoring in all of these merge/split/re-arrange CUSA & Sun Belt threads is that the vast majority of the Sun Belt schools are happy with how realignment has turned out so far. Texas St has a bit of a gripe being the only football playing member in Texas but as for the rest we have two geographically friendly divisions with realistic travel partners that cut costs and the Conference revenues are growing each year even without TV $$$ in the mix. Given the realities I think most of our Presidents would listen to a proposal to form a new conference or re-arrange the two but If the money wasn't there why would they agree to it?

If It Doesn’t Make Dollars, It Doesn’t Make Sense!

(06-13-2017 02:27 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  See the thing posters are ignoring in all of these merge/split/re-arrange CUSA & Sun Belt threads is that the vast majority of the Sun Belt schools are happy with how realignment has turned out so far. Texas St has a bit of a gripe being the only football playing member in Texas but as for the rest we have two geographically friendly divisions with realistic travel partners that cut costs and the Conference revenues are growing each year even without TV $$$ in the mix. Given the realities I think most of our Presidents would listen to a proposal to form a new conference or re-arrange the two but If the money wasn't there why would they agree to it?

If It Doesn’t Make Dollars, It Doesn’t Make Sense!

This.

IMO the Sun Belt seems like it will actually be a stronger conference than CUSA. It would make much more sense for UAB and USM to just join them.

If It Doesn’t Make Dollars, It Doesn’t Make Sense!
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This.

IMO the Sun Belt seems like it will actually be a stronger conference than CUSA. It would make much more sense for UAB and USM to just join them.
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USM is reducing travel cost. There isnt a dimes worth of difference between the Sunbelt and Cdoa. Nothing wrong with joining Sunbelt or its schools except it defeats our purpose. The lineup we are looking at would put us no more than about 350 miles from the farthest member, most would be much closer and the farthest distance from the most outlying members would be around 500mi.